Anti Mask 'Karen'

"Masks either work or they don't"

- it has been proven through actual peer reviewed studies that wearing masks has shown effectiveness in mitigating spread. They aren't 100% effective, but they have a statistical efficacy that they help.

"If a cut up t-shirt wasn't good enough to prevent me from getting it in March, I fail to see how it's going to succeed in stopping me from spreading it in July."

- there's a big difference in preventing you from getting it while wearing a mask vs containing your viral attached water droplets coming out of your mouth and nose. You really don't see that difference?

"Look, I get the idea behind it. And if I thought people were intelligent enough to utilize masks in a fashion that they would actually be effective, OK. But the ever changing narrative on it has left me pretty jaded, and frankly, I don't think they have any idea what they're talking about. They've made a nice little niche industry for the Etsy types, but it's a hard sell for me after the weeks, if not months of rhetoric telling me masks wouldn't do anything for me unless I was a doctor/nurse and "knew what I was doing"."

- there hasn't been a changing narrative, again see the second bullet point above. Protecting yourself, masks aren't entirely effective unless if you're trained and have the type of mask and discipline, that hasn't changed. The reason for the mask orders and social distancing is slowing the spread, which again, has been proven to be effective.

"That's before I even get into deafening silence of the mask brigade during all of the protests/riots....Which I won't delve into here since not P&R."

- no idea what this means, but most of the peaceful protesting that has happened I've seen them wearing masks. I'm not going to address the rioting.

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My doctor, for years now, has a sign as soon as you walk

Jun 29, 2020, 2:41 PM [ in reply to See, I've just never seen this. Ever ]

in saying if you have a fever or cough, take a mask and wait. Has a little arrow pointing down to a box of masks. Same doctor who told me the truth about masks 11 years ago. And he was proven correct. My doctor basically told me the CDC lied, and explained why they lied. And that's exactly what happened. We only recently learned that lying was a bad idea. THAT is what has changed.

Think about it, masks make no difference. They don't protect you from the virus. They only help prevent sick peolpe from spreading it. Ok, so why do doctors and nurses wear them and not patients then? Why is it essential that nurses have personal protective equipment (including masks)? Shouldn't that be necessary for the patients? Or do they somehow protect doctors and nurses to the point they're mandatory, and DPA was used to make sure enough existed for doctors and nurses, yet people don't need them?

Oh, and the CDC has known about asymptomatic transmission since January. That was their excuse for reversing course. Would have been bad PR to say "Hey, we lied. Looks like it was a bad move. So do the opposite now.".

You shouldn't be confused about masks. You were lied to. It happens. You believed it. You were supposed to. Well, now the truth's out. There's plenty of research on masks overseas. Very little in the US. But you can read studies from China, Germany, Singapore, Japan, Korea, wherever you like. They all indicate the same thing. And specifically, masks are even more important in viruses that depend on viral load. You will likely find that's the case with covid. It makes a difference if you inhale 4,000 covid particles, versus 20,000. It can be the difference between no symptoms, or a vent and death. It means you share 80% less covid virus, and inhale 20% less. If everyone drops their emissions 80% and reduces what they inhale by 20%, things become safer. This is based on standard 3-ply surgical masks btw, and on international studies. Same reason we don't do random covid testing, is the same reason we don't do mask tests in the US. Economically masks are the difference between movie theaters being opened or closed. They can allow for a lot of economic activity to take place, that would otherwise be too risky. Texas has already closed ALL bars, and restaurants can only operate at 50% capacity now. I guarantee you if everyone wore masks, those bars and restaurants could operate better. But now there's a bar owner who has closed. He's not getting paid or making money. Why? Because people don't wear masks. You can not simply ignore this virus and plow through it.

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poor little kid***

Best argument I’ve got for wearing a mask

Best argument I have against mask is the new....

She procreated

Slump busters are people too....

I think I'd bust in her slump.

Might want to have her use the bidet first

I've been with a few chicks that look like her

don't be groce***

Re: don't be groce***

Bisch looks like she'd play hungry hungry hippos with your

Can we at least admit that the concept of requiring a mask

the masks are not required when you are at your table

So it's somehow even dumber than I thought

Wrong.***

What is?

The 2 months ago was for preventing the wearer of

Riiiight, I guess the rona switched up tactics so we did

Or we're learning how to work on lowering the spread,

So a mask isn't necessarily effective against protecting me

That is correct. And that is the message that has been

Masks either work or they don't

First they thought it was airborn, hence the n95s

these people

No. It's not binary, and never has been. N95 has it right

Please apply common sense here.

I'm not saying it's political, but the narrative has

I had removed that political bit apparently while you

I guess in that regard you could say it's political, but I

That we can agree on. Some of the decision making on

Looks like it's taken 1.5 hours and a dozen or so posts to

boatramps?***

Boatramps

Re: That we can agree on. Some of the decision making on

How many people are still

I just got back from REI where I wore a mask

Look here FourEyes, they're stupid, but effective.

how effective is it when all the "four eyes" are touching

You shop like a woman...touching ever thing

Whats your point? Woman are less or this is some kind

Yes, women are inferior shoppers, to inefficient***

Re: Yes, women are inferior shoppers, to inefficient***

yes

I was just trying to make a point in the REI store

yeah, but they've always got that little camp stove display

Well ####

It is less effective when you do that, obviously.

put you hands in your #### pockets! that's pretty much

LOL, whose panties are twisted up?***

Lakebum, it's actually not a new tactic.

And with pre-symptomatic transmission, it's harder to know

See, I've just never seen this. Ever

in all seriousness, have you gone to the pediatrician with

Yes, and I don't really recall seeing people with masks

My doctor, for years now, has a sign as soon as you walk

lutz

I see where you're going......***

He wasn't getting paid when he was forced to close down

Half as good as a surgical, roughly.***

IDK about from the last 3 months

I think the logic is pretty straightforward...

I think the experts learn more about the rona

no shirts, no shoes, no masks

And wearing a mask is temporary too, FFS.***

Why would it be temporary? As long as COVID exists without

If a vaccine is never developed, then as soon as local

Serious question, not trying to be snarky

Because flu doesn't have pre-symptomatic transmission...

Before covid, did you wear a mask when you were sick?***

I get sick maybe once a year, and I never go anywhere

OK..lets say two years ago.

Maybe 10 years ago whenever I had the flu and went to

honesty answer, I purchase a box 2 or 3 yrs ago just in case

You sure about that? I was under the impression quite a few

Pretty sure.

I said it before, I will NOT bow to the idiots who tell me

Hey #### you. I think they should be required in restaurant

Don’t know why she’s on Morgan Square The rule is just

Kweshion hear. First time caller long time listener.