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TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:00 PM
 

 
WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

Wake Forest was utterly demolished 63-3 against No. 4 Clemson last Saturday. Demon Deacon head coach Dave Clawson was seen throughout most of the half screaming Read Update »



Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:05 PM
 

He shouldn't schedule Oklahoma then because their band goes until the QB gets under center. The funny thing is his team was in the game before he got his way, after he got his way Clemson destroyed Wake. So I ask you Dave, did it really make things better?


Yep Oklahome band does the same thing


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 5:21 PM
 

holding that end note on one of their defense cheer songs. I believe GT does too.


WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint about Clemson’s band


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 10:47 PM
 

i totally agree. Clawson should be a Drum Major and not a coach. Worked up over the band, we only scored 7. Coaching WF, we scored 56...

Should stick to Music Appreciation 101.


Can someone post the official rule?

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:07 PM
 

I would love to know the rule vs what our band was doing so I can know exactly how much I should be laughing at Clawson for whining about a pep band during a football game.


Here ya go

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:15 PM
 

"5. Persons subject to the rules, including bands, shall not create any noise
that prohibits a team from hearing its signals (Rule 1-1-6).
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Rule 9 - Article 1 - Section b.5

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Re: Here ya go


Posted: Oct 13, 2018 12:03 PM
 

I feel out of respect if there is a rule the band should abide by it. Now how loud can they get who knows to be at that level. I believe he was more frustrAted and looking for something to vent about. How about the band play a lullaby song and put them to sleep. Oh heck let him complain he got whooped.


Re: Here ya go


Posted: Oct 13, 2018 12:03 PM
 

I feel out of respect if there is a rule the band should abide by it. Now how loud can they get who knows to be at that level. I believe he was more frustrAted and looking for something to vent about. How about the band play a lullaby song and put them to sleep. Oh heck let him complain he got whooped.


Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:08 PM
 

I live in Clemmons and the worst paper every WSJ is always writing about how ole Dave is getting done wrong ad about his whining about it. He’s a good coach with what he has but whining never helps losing.

Dave please don’t act like the other Dave who cries more than you at NCS!??????

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Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:12 PM
 

Well, didn't we have the majority of the fans there?

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Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:14 PM
 

I never was sure what he was complaining about. The band shouldn't play while they are calling plays. But I think the Clemson fans were probably bothering him the most and they should be loud when Wake was calling plays.


I see where clawson is coming from

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:14 PM
 

I was in my high school marching band at Ninety Six high school for 6 years and I am now a junior at Charleston Southern University and have been in the marching band every year. It is actually a rule where the band is not supposed to play while the ball is snapped. Any team can get penalized for this if they do play. It's really no different than Dabo arguing a holding call, or a pass interference call. However, I am very positive we can play as much as we want before the ball is snapped. If they were playing while the ball was snapped then it shouldn't matter if they were getting recked or not. A penalty is a penalty.


It is rarely called


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:17 PM
 

However, by rule the band is not supposed to play at a time/in a manner that would interfere with the opposing team hearing/giving their signals.

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Louisville's band did it to us...where was the outrage then?


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 2:30 PM
 

They did it up until the hike that time Lamar came to town.


I have no outrage over it


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:07 PM
 

Just pointing out the rule.

Like I said, it's really never called.

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Re: I see where clawson is coming from

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 2:09 PM
 

Pretty good explanation for someone who spent 6 years in high school. !?!?


He probably played 7th, 8th.... 12th. I played varsity...


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 4:08 PM
 

soccer from 7th grade on.

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Re: I see where clawson is coming from


Posted: Oct 13, 2018 8:03 AM
 


I was in my high school marching band at Ninety Six high school for 6 years and I am now a junior at Charleston Southern University and have been in the marching band every year. It is actually a rule where the band is not supposed to play while the ball is snapped. Any team can get penalized for this if they do play. It's really no different than Dabo arguing a holding call, or a pass interference call. However, I am very positive we can play as much as we want before the ball is snapped. If they were playing while the ball was snapped then it shouldn't matter if they were getting recked or not. A penalty is a penalty.


Just because state law allows you to stay in school until you’re 21-years-old doesn’t mean you should complain about not being able to bring liquor to the Ninety Six High School Prom. ???????


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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:18 PM
 

I do not think the pep band did anything differently than usual. The short between downs songs like Rage Defense were being played but because of the fast pace the Deacon offense sometimes the band was playing at the snap. They were not playing throughout the play.

It is ironic that the videos of the Wake players waving their arms with the motorcycle noise played right up to the snap or after as well. Just a matter of perspective.

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:26 PM
 

Yeah, I was going to mention that the speed at which they were snapping the ball is what caught the band out of sync. If it had been the normal 20-30sec between plays then it would not have bothered Clawson. It must have bothered our Def since they were keeping the game relatively close for first 15min.


I always wondered whether that long note they hold was legal***


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Well that explains his Muschamp-like tantrum on the sideline.

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:19 PM
 

How’d that work out for ya Dave?

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I got a kick outta the WF center .. when they got close to

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:22 PM
 

scoring ... waving to the crowd to quiet down, even though 50% of the crowd was Clemson fans.

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Re: I got a kick outta the WF center .. when they got close to

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:32 PM
 

That was hilarious, I need to find a video to see it again. I think the QB was even trying to quiet us. What's also funny is a lot of the noise was also coming from Wake Forest fans. I was sitting in the home section and they were on our side of the field driving towards the endzone. Next thing you know Wake Forest fans are standing up screaming with the Clemson fans. Couldn't help but laugh.

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:22 PM
 

Unless something has changed then Clawson is wrong. You can absolutely play right up until the ball is snapped. You can then begin to play as soon as the whistle blows. He is going to be really upset with FSU because they employ this tactic all the time and have a much louder band than TigerBand. TigerBand doesn't really play nearly as much as other bands do. Teams are given no special right to have silence to call plays.

I remember in 2004 we went to FSU and there was an issue with our band. They put us right on the front row of Doak Campbell but we wear also along the 10 yard line or so. Our Drum Majors podium was actually on the grass behind the benches. The refs at that game did come and stop our Drum Majors from using their whistles because it was affecting the game.


Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:23 PM
 

I guess Wake should have put our band way up in the upper deck.

Oh wait...they don't have an upper deck.

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Yabbut ... did Tiger Band have laptops ??

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:23 PM
 

That is the real question.

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Wow, Tiger Band is worth 60 points


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:25 PM
 

How bad would the beat down have been if we took the entire band instead of just the pep band?


Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:26 PM
 

Probably mad our fans outnumbered theirs 3 to 1

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Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:27 PM
 




Oh Dave...

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:30 PM
 

after a 63 - 3 beatdown, maybe you should focus more on coaching your team and less on the Clemson band.

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Well, It was a Home Game For Clemson based on the stands..

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:31 PM
 

If they can't fill that little stadium with their own fans they deserved to get boat-raced

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All I hear are excuses and deflections.

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:51 PM
 

Your team got beat down, and Tiger Band had nothing to do with it.

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Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:52 PM
 

C’mon man! We didn’t even have the full band!


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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 1:56 PM
 

Should’ve let the tuba player kick the last PAT.


I think Clawson and Doeren should coach in skirts***

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 2:05 PM
 




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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 2:22 PM
 

Why does this article include a clip of Tiger Rag with Auburn’s Jordan-Hare stadium in the background?


If the Pep Band bothers him

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 2:46 PM
 

I vote next time we take the full band to Winston Salem, oh wait we'd need to rent bleachers or have our band sit behind the home bench...


We took our full band there in 2006


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 4:43 PM
 

Wake fans got upset and booed because we played Tiger Rag at the end of the halftime show and it hurt their little feelings.

GO TIGERS


Didn't we only have the pep band up there?***


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 2:57 PM
 




When you have a high school stadium, then everyone is

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:06 PM
 

pretty close together. You can't put the band in seats further away. Wake's stadium is always embarrassing looking on tv.

Wake is the one school I would love to see leave the ACC. We don't need four teams from one state. We could lose them and lose absolutely nothing. They aren't even competitive in basketball like they should be. If they were to leave, we could add another state to the footprint and gain more viewers. I'd love to see West Virginia

Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Miami
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Notre Dame
Pitt
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

or

Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Miami
Navy
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Notre DAme
Pitt
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech


Dear Sir,

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:10 PM
 

You have no idea what've you done to you and your team.


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Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:21 PM
 

I was in attendance at the game and I was concerned how loud the PA played the noise when the Demon Deacon was revving his motorcycle on the video board as well as how loud the music was played! I have the same issue at Death Valley with how often the too loud and too often rap music is played. This year I went to Texas A&M, Tech and Wake and did not hear that music at any of their stadiums.


Hey Guy! Your inner old man is showing


Posted: Oct 17, 2018 11:43 PM
 

And you whippersnappers stay out of my yard!


Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:21 PM
 

I was in attendance at the game and I was concerned how loud the PA played the noise when the Demon Deacon was revving his motorcycle on the video board as well as how loud the music was played! I have the same issue at Death Valley with how often the too loud and too often rap music is played. This year I went to Texas A&M, Tech and Wake and did not hear that music at any of their stadiums.


Our band isn't even loud***


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:22 PM
 




GaTech and FSU violate this rule all the time. I don't see


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:33 PM
 

Dabo crying about it.


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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:37 PM
 

I'm kinda disappointed after reading the article. I thought it was going to be a revelation and Clawson was going to inform the college football world that members of the Clemson band scored the last 2 TDs. Although that may have been disappointing too. I believe the band could have at least scored 3 TDs against WF.

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Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:43 PM
 

So Crump by your own calculations bringing the pep band to an away game is an automatic +8 points ?
Did Tommy B not know about this ?

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 3:59 PM
 

lol

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Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 6:33 PM
 

Good to see he’s focusing on the right things during the game. Between Clawson fretting over the band and Doeren complaining about whether or not there was a laptop on the sideline, I think we have a pretty good competition for the next HC at South Carolina.


Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 6:36 PM
 

Clawson is a snowflake. Wait til next year when WF comes to Tigertown. He hasn't heard anything yet!


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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 6:55 PM
 
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I recommend this set up behind the Wake bench next year.


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Posted: Oct 13, 2018 8:48 AM
 

Playing "Eye Of The Tiger" all game long!!


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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 6:57 PM
 

Wow!!! Talk about throwing egg on your own face??


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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 7:24 PM
 

Just another idiot from North Carolina spouting off about nothing. Pep band of all things making too much noise. Think I may have to make thevWF game next year just to help make more noise. He had better bring ear plugs.

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Their HUNH offense caught the band off guard. Dr Spede has


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 7:23 PM
 

Been working with Venables this week on their cadence between snaps.


I thought he'd also complain that we brought the home crowd.***


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 7:29 PM
 




He didn't even notice the band had 2 laptops too!***


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Virginia Tech's program would get the death penalty under


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 8:01 PM
 

the same scrutiny.

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Wow. He should be thanking us for packing out his high school stadium

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 8:27 PM
 

And I mean on his knees thanking us. What a charade. Can we please get some testicles and kick out WF from the ACC?


Re: Wow. He should be thanking us for packing out his high school stadium


Posted: Oct 12, 2018 8:40 PM
 

Bad band! Bad!! Go sit in the corner.


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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 9:27 PM
 

Thought I might go back and re watch since di not recall anything during the game at the stadium...you can not hear the "pep band" on TV. Guess clawson has super hearing...or his is looking for excuses


I saw him keep pointing at the band...

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 10:13 PM
 

I saw him keep pointing at the band, I just assumed he was asking if his football team could play against them instead of our football team.


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Re: TNET: WF’s Dave Clawson makes complaint to ACC about Clemson’s band

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Posted: Oct 12, 2018 11:49 PM
 

Coach, if you're tired of hearing Tiger Rag, get a defense. You are the one who gave up NINE TOUCHDOWNS!!!!


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Posted: Oct 14, 2018 12:29 PM
 

A good coach looking for something to blame. I believe he realizes the futility. He got beat at every level, at home. Move on. This news is nonews.

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