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Oculus Spirit [96812]
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Coach Salary Comparison
Oct 23, 2014, 9:06 AM
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Someone posted this link yesterday that calculates a "$ per win" to see which schools are getting the most bang for their buck, purely in terms of "Wins".
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/6/30/5857786/2013-college-football-coaches-salaries-wins
I combined these and sorted by "$ per win". Dabo was 16th -- which isn't bad -- but Michigan State, Oregon, and Duke finished top 5 in this study.
I'd be curious to see if there is a similar chart for Offensive Coordinators...
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oh boy
Oct 23, 2014, 9:13 AM
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sunshine folks is gonna misinterpret this as bashing the program, and they not gonna has the happy with you, bob.
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All-In [30593]
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where's the list that shows how close
Oct 23, 2014, 9:29 AM
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we are to closing the gap with SCU and FSwho?
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Legend [16629]
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frankly i don't see what you doods are all upset about.
Oct 23, 2014, 9:32 AM
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do i need to post that list proving we convert a lot of third downs?
would that make you feel better?
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Re: Coach Salary Comparison
Oct 23, 2014, 10:17 AM
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I read somewhere (sorry, no link) that Jimbo makes over 4 million. Was this old data?
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Oculus Spirit [96812]
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so you would rather
Oct 23, 2014, 10:41 AM
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Get a coach for 750,000 a year, only win 6 or so games a year and say we got a bargain?
This chart is a little misleading.
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would you be in favor of re-working contracts to be based on
Oct 23, 2014, 10:48 AM
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"big wins"...
What if we made Dabo's contract where he got 1/4 of his salary if he beat FSU, and 1/4 if he beat UCS?
IMO, that would equal the importance of those two games, or at least come close. And don't give me the "other games matter too" nonsense. Yes they do, but he has proven he's over that hurdle.
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Re: would you be in favor of re-working contracts to be based on
Oct 23, 2014, 10:54 AM
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Thank God you're a nobody that has zero say in our program.
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Re: would you be in favor of re-working contracts to be based on
Oct 23, 2014, 10:55 AM
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Maybe you can teach him about "revenue streams" using the tone of a college sophomore and he'll be somebody.
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Re: would you be in favor of re-working contracts to be based on
Oct 23, 2014, 10:59 AM
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No...he'll be a nobody forever. His feelings are hurt because he can't stand up to gamecock fans. It's sad. But he has you to come to his rescue. Bless your hearts.
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Re: would you be in favor of re-working contracts to be based on
Oct 23, 2014, 11:00 AM
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It's almost like you're a douchebag and I'm responding because of that and not because york is a regular here.
Mind=blown
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Re: would you be in favor of re-working contracts to be based on***
Oct 23, 2014, 11:01 AM
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Did they renew that for another season? I hope so
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Re: wanna provide an answer, either way... rather than
Oct 23, 2014, 10:57 AM
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He's all like
Then he's all like:
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While I wouldn't completely be opposed to the idea
Oct 23, 2014, 10:59 AM
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Do we not already have incentives in his contract for winning a certain number of games, etc?
Perhaps you could enlighten me. I'm honestly not sure of the details.
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i don't know... but i don't think it's accurate to call
Oct 23, 2014, 11:02 AM
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that chart misleading...
you make this much per year... that means each games is worth x amount...
It may be misleading in the way you didn't intend... meaning he's getting a lot of money for beating teams that we should beat... but getting the same for not performing in the FSU and UCS series...
that's all i'm sayin
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Ah, should've assumed it was an attempt to undermine
Oct 23, 2014, 11:11 AM
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My post.
I thought we were about to engage in discussion.
It is a good indicator for many programs, but when you consider it is based on wins per salary it is inevitably going to be skewed by coaches who many not necessarily be successful in the idea of winning a majority of games.
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I'm not undermining you post at all..
Oct 23, 2014, 11:16 AM
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i think it's innaccurate to call it "misleading"... by your logic, you were undermining the OP. I am just pointing out that it's not "misleading" when you break it down on a game by game basis.
Obviously, there are other factors involved in salary, though.
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Oculus Spirit [96812]
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No not at all. And I'm not saying this chart is the
Oct 23, 2014, 11:12 AM
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be-all and end-all. But it's certainly something to consider in determining our return on investment.
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Re: No not at all. And I'm not saying this chart is the
Oct 23, 2014, 11:15 AM
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Also be interested in seeing those per win averages alongside total FB/AD revenue so that there's a baseline. Texas, for example, can probably afford to pay more per win than we can.
That's to say, I think we would have a relatively high ratio of our expenditures going towards "coaching" or "coaching wins"...but I haven't run the numbers.
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I agree with that
Oct 23, 2014, 11:19 AM
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While clearly Michigan State and Oregon are getting good deals, it is difficult for me to say the same with Rutgers, etc.
If I'm not mistaken Dabo started with a good bit less per year before he started wining a bunch of games. His previous salaries should count for something given the incentives he met to make more money in the first place.
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i don't think the best indicator is Dabo's salary... it's
Oct 23, 2014, 11:21 AM
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the staff combined
which ultimately goes back to him, tho
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Oculus Spirit [96812]
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Good point and I wood like to see that analsis
Oct 23, 2014, 11:24 AM
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Can you have it on my desk by 8 AM Monday?
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Re: Good point and I wood like to see that analsis***
Oct 23, 2014, 11:26 AM
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Plus it seems that
Oct 23, 2014, 11:26 AM
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A whole bunch of these figures are outdated or simply not right.
Good point. As with anything else, sample size is important here. Would be good to know all of these coaches wins per salary over their entire career.
As I said, this chart is an indicator but really does not begin to tell the whole story.
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i still hold my position that a top 5 paid coaching staff
Oct 23, 2014, 11:27 AM
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should be better than 3-10 against its instate rival and biggest conference rival.
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Undoubtedly so, but
Oct 23, 2014, 11:44 AM
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I was trying to discuss these statistics objective of who the wins were over. But yes, strength of schedule and the like is yet another factor that should be considered outside of this chart when determining the success of a coach and program. Again, Rutgers would not have a ton to hold their hat on in this respect, either.
Where are you getting the information that we are a top 5 paid coaching staff this year? I'm pretty sure that's not correct. If so, consider me unpleasantly surprised.
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I think you should look at other critical factors:
Oct 23, 2014, 11:26 AM
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^^^ this may be underrated***
Oct 23, 2014, 11:28 AM
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Oculus Spirit [96812]
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hey, bob, let's not get hasty...
Oct 23, 2014, 11:31 AM
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maybe he has the confuse and thought we was dusting ceiling fans in here or somethin'
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I'm apologize!
Oct 23, 2014, 11:32 AM
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I woke up late with a head full of dreams of my ex, open my laptop to see what's happening in the real world and find you still complaining about Dabo's salary. I severely over reacted.
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Oculus Spirit [96812]
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Honestly, not complaining about Dabo's salary. And I feel
Oct 23, 2014, 11:51 AM
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like Venables is worth every dime. However, there are certain other coaches (who shall remain nameless) that appear to be overpaid based on the results we're seeing on the field.
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"Salary Comparison" is a funny name ...
Oct 23, 2014, 12:10 PM
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... where does he coach?
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Re: "Salary Comparison" is a funny name ...
Oct 23, 2014, 12:13 PM
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Don't point out the shoddy spreadsheet work. Poor fella doesn't know better.
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