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ACC championship needs new venue:
Feb 16, 2013, 8:24 PM
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Also teams with the best records playing in that game!
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CU Guru [1622]
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Keep in mind the only Reason GT made it was...
Feb 17, 2013, 1:33 AM
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Bc Miami was on probation. I think UNC would've even been taken before GT had it not been for brobation again.
A 6-6 GT team obviously isn't going to excite people. Nobody's fault, just the way the cards were dealt this past year.
I personally feel that moving it on campus is very "bush league" and wouldn't look great. Imagine playing the ACC championship at say... Wake Forest?
Just saying... Awful idea overall abt on campus championship games.
Turn the page.
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Orange Blooded [4098]
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Re: ACC championship needs new venue:
Feb 16, 2013, 8:41 PM
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yes about the teams.. leave game in Charlotte
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Re: ACC championship needs new venue:
Feb 16, 2013, 9:03 PM
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it sounds like FSU just wants the game in Florida so they dont have to travel 10 hours to go to it. i thank that is a sad affair. we would gladly travel to St pete to play in a championship and not complain.
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110%er [9771]
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They'll be happy to know its about 14 hrs to Dallas
Feb 16, 2013, 9:18 PM
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for the B12 champ game.
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Orange Blooded [3706]
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I was in Tampa when we played Tech.
Feb 17, 2013, 8:27 AM
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FSU was just mad that they lost to FL, and had to play GT. Their fans are spoiled.
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Orange Blooded [3178]
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Game should be held at the highest ranked divisional rep's
Feb 16, 2013, 10:12 PM
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Home stadium
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CU Guru [1335]
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Finally, someone who gets it, for the ACC to be
Feb 16, 2013, 10:18 PM
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have an ACCCG and it's be successful and have a stadium full of fans
it has to be moved to a campus and let it be of the highest rated team playing in the ACCCG.
no place else will it work in the ACC
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Re: Finally, someone who gets it, for the ACC to be
Feb 16, 2013, 11:05 PM
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The 2011 ACCCG was a blast. Both fanbases travelled well and both teams were quality teams. It was one of the funnest games I've ever been to. This year's ACCCG was a flat out disgrace. There were as many Clemson fans in attendance as GT fans. It was amazing the difference a year made. I understand GT was a last minute team but their fanbase should really be ashamed. At least some FSU fans showed up. I felt bad for the GT players in all honesty. They fought back and made a game of it but their fans couldn't even show up. Both teams looked awful this year too. The ACC should have done something differently. I don't really know what they could've done but if one division is that bad and we have co-champs in the other division I wouldn't have minded seeing Clemson slaughter FSU in the ACCCG. There is no question we would have beat FSU by 40 if we had the chance to play them again.
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Re: Finally, someone who gets it, for the ACC to be
Feb 17, 2013, 12:31 AM
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thanks for helping prove the point that the game needs to be moved to a campus setting for the good of the ACC and the ACCCG.
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Big problem with that is...
Feb 16, 2013, 10:54 PM
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...the fact that we have schools in this conference with tiny stadiums like Wake and Duke. The revenue that the ACC would be leaving on the table with a championship game at either stadium dwarfs the problems with this one off situation where one half of the championship game didn't deserve to be there, and only was there because the two teams that should have been there were either not allowed or chose to forgo post season play because of NCAA violations.
This coming season the ACCCG will either sell out or be close enough that this will be just a historical footnote.
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Re: Big problem with that is...
Feb 17, 2013, 12:29 AM
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One thing the ACC should not allow, are teams like Miami dropping out of the ACCCG to try and save themselves more probation time.
Who does that hurt worse, it hurts the ACC. But even if Miami had played they would have no more fans there than GT.
When the game is in Charlotee if Clemson isnt there or VT, NCST or UNC it's going to be a stadium half full.
Even Clemson and VT did not fill it up and both travel well.
If WF or Duke or BC makes it to the ACCCG I doubt either would be the higher ranked team so it would not be player there. If they were the higher ranked team the stadium would be full, the fans excited to be there, and the game would be worth watching from a fan and TV fan view point and make the ACCCG look like it actually means something.
Half full stadiums regardless of who's playing makes the game not look important and makes it seem like the fans of the ACC don't care about football, and that it's still a basketball 1st conf.
I do agree Clemson would have beaten FSU if they played the 2nd time but not by 40. And those wishes will never happen as long as we're in the same div.
The rules need to change or the divs. need to change or THE LOCATION OF THE GAME NEEDS TO CHANGE and that is probably the only one that has a chances of changing.
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Re: Game should be held at the highest ranked divisional rep's
Feb 17, 2013, 12:45 AM
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No thanks. That would have meant a second trip to lane Stadium in 2011. We would have crushed them regardless, but Charlotte is where that game should have been.
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Here is the answer to the problem (repost)
Feb 16, 2013, 11:26 PM
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This solution puts the 2 best teams in the ACC-CG. It also reduces (eliminates) football games between Clemson and Duke/Pitt while increases games vs VT, GT, and Miami.
This is a very minor tweak to the existing system. (It would however require a waiver from the NCAA.
It would pave the way to a 16 team NCAA play-off that piggy backs on the major conference championship games (assuming major college football divided into 16 similar divisions)
Here it is:
Four Divisions:
Div. A1: Clemson, NCST, Syracuse, Wake
Div. A2: FSU, L-ville, BC
Div. C1: VT, UNC, UVA, Duke
Div. C2: GT, Miami, Pitt
7 regular season conference games plus 1 “flex game”.
Divisions A1 and A2 play each other every year to make up 6 conference games. The 7th game is vs the permanent rival from the Costal Division. The same set-up is used for the other two divisions.
In the “flex game” the first place team from Division A1 plays the first place team from Division C1. Second vs. Second, so on and so forth last vs last. The same set-up is used for the other two divisions.
The host divisions for the “flex games” are predetermined on a rotating basis. The rotation would never have A1 and A2 aligned for the “flex games”. Likewise, C1 and C2 would not be aligned.
Due to uneven number of teams in the Divisions, the last place team in Division A1 would always play the last place team in Division C1.
“Flex games” are always scheduled the Saturday after the annual ACC vs. SEC in-state rivalry games (Scar vs. Clemson, UGA vs. GT, etc.)
The winners of the two first place “flex games” will meet the next week in the ACC-CG.
Example:
These would have been the teams in the first place flex games (play-off) for the last several years: Clemson, FSU, GT, VT.
This same set-up would work great in the SEC, which may cause the ACC and SEC to agree to move the Clemson vs. Scar, FSU vs. FLA, UGA vs. GT, etc games up one week to allow the flex games on Thanksgiving weekend.
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Re: ACC championship needs new venue:
Feb 17, 2013, 1:42 AM
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If the game was played in conference team stadiums and the favorite hosted, an ACCCG would never be played in Death Valley as long as the NCAA continues their banishment of SC from hosting big events, bowl games and such unless the ACC did some major butt smooching.
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Athletic Dir [865]
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The NAACP boycott of SC should be over. The NAACP called
Feb 17, 2013, 8:01 AM
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our Senator Tim Scott a raciest.
It is clear that the NAACP has lost it's way from the original cause.
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We can tinker all we want with venue and other things but
Feb 17, 2013, 2:32 AM
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The game will have issues from time to time so long as the acc sucks. If we were a better league it would take care of itself.
Before the move to Charlotte everyone said Charlotte would fix the issues, and it looked like a great idea after the Clem vt game. Then we get this freak scenario of a 6-6 gt team and everyone wants to throw it out already.
People, seriously try to look more then ten yards in front of you.
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All-In [25381]
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Agreed....An ACCCG with two highly ranked opponents
Feb 17, 2013, 5:20 AM
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should draw attendance, and Charlotte is a great venue midway in the conference area. I have a sense that Pitt and Syracuse aren't going to be the pushovers everyone thinks they will be; then the addition of LV will further spicen the pot.
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Athletic Dir [889]
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2 out of those 3 will be in the Atlantic
Feb 17, 2013, 8:05 AM
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Coastal needs to get better without the Atlantic dropping off.
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Athletic Dir [865]
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Take the 2 best for the Coastal and 2 best from the Atlantic
Feb 17, 2013, 9:51 AM
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and have two semifinals cross divisional games on campus. The semifinal would be the 8th conference game of the year.
The bottom 10 ACC teams would also play their cross divisional 8th conference games on the same day.
It is a "play-off" but it is not a "play-off" because it does not add any games to the regular season.
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Athletic Dir [865]
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Let's face it. In next years ACC, Clemson will almost never
Feb 17, 2013, 10:05 AM
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play teams from the Coastal (except GT).
When we do play our 1 game vs Coastal (except GT), the game should be against a team of equal merits to Clemson.
If your program is a "top feeder" in the division, the cross divisional game will be vs a "top feeder".
If your program is a "bottom feeder" you and your ticket sales will have to suffer through a cross divisional game vs another "bottom feeder". If you don't like it, invest some money into your football program to get better recruits.
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Athletic Dir [889]
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ACC Championship Problem
Feb 17, 2013, 8:00 AM
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Most of the teams in ACC do not travel very well. There home stadiums are smaller than wherever you put Champ game.
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CU Guru [1895]
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you shouldnt make rash decisions based on just one year
Feb 17, 2013, 10:35 AM
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Especially considering the top two teams in the coastal both couldnt play in the game. The situation that happened this year will likely never happen again. Also if you look around the country, you will notice that the ACC isn't the only league with attendance problems at the championship game.
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CU Guru [1622]
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^^^^^^^^^^ Tigerstyle gets it! I mentioned that earlier too***
Feb 18, 2013, 12:00 AM
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