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Concrete Quote
Dec 4, 2019, 12:26 PM
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Gents,
I'm extending the concrete around my pool by 6" half way around, adding a 12x18 patio, and pouring a sidewalk at the estate. I attached a rough sketch of the work.
The guy is quoting some dirt work because of my red clay, forming, pouring, and doing a salt-rock finish.
I estimate the square footage to be 650sq ft. So on a 4" slab, I would guess maybe 8 yards.
What would you expect the price to be?
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"Why do I always let people walk all over me?"
Dec 4, 2019, 12:29 PM
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~Concrete
sorry.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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Dang you!
Dec 4, 2019, 12:31 PM
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When I saw your name on the reply, I was like, "oh cool, since he's a Guarchitect, he probably would have some useful information for me"...
Then you throw out this joke and...
Totally redeem yourself!
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“Did you hear about the rose that grew from a crack in the
Dec 4, 2019, 12:32 PM
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concrete, proving nature's laws wrong, it learned 2 walk without having feet”
? Tupac Shakur, The Rose That Grew from Concrete
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Oculus Spirit [75714]
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Nah, just the one in Spanish Harlem.***
Dec 4, 2019, 12:40 PM
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A LOT***
Dec 4, 2019, 12:35 PM
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Dec 4, 2019, 12:46 PM
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$12,000 is my guess
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Oculus Spirit [85301]
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8 X 200 = $1,600 prolly
Dec 4, 2019, 12:51 PM
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I got quotes from 135 to $200 cy when I did my driveway in 2013. But I did a lot more than 8 CY.
I assume concrete is still around $100/CY and labor is what ranges ($35-$70) + the skid steer.
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depends on where you are
Dec 4, 2019, 12:55 PM
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closer to $120-$130 CY in Charleston. He's short 2 yards so that's an additional charge. Probably going to cost him close to $2k
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Oculus Spirit [85301]
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I have bought 2 cy off a truck before***
Dec 4, 2019, 12:57 PM
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Often you have to pay for the empty space
Dec 4, 2019, 1:00 PM
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but maybe not full retail. Gotta be worth the haul. Maybe you got 2 leftover yards from a truck.
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i think it is about $30-40/yard for shortage***
Dec 4, 2019, 1:03 PM
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Oculus Spirit [85301]
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Yes leftover, I couldn't get it the hour I wanted it
Dec 4, 2019, 1:07 PM
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so they twerked it to when a truck was in the area and gave me the last 2.
Still I called it in at like 10:00 and got it around 4:00 same day.
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Minimum $1500, probably closer to $2k if you have alot of
Dec 4, 2019, 12:55 PM
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labor with the forms and dirt.
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Re: Concrete Quote
Dec 4, 2019, 12:57 PM
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1 80lb bag of
Dec 4, 2019, 1:01 PM
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Quikrete is 0.6 CF and costs $4.89. You would need (8CY*27CF/CY)/0.6CF = 360 80 lb bags of quikrete. At $4.89 a bag that is $1760. Add in tax. Add in costs for rental of a mixer, form boards, trowels (if you don't already have them) you're looking at about $2200 (+/- $100). You could save close to $100 with the 5% lowes discount.
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Gotta add in the cost for short term disability and loss of
Dec 4, 2019, 1:13 PM
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income after being in traction for month after moving around 360 80lb bags of concrete.
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Coot revenge
Dec 4, 2019, 1:02 PM
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the slump on that concrete must be
Dec 4, 2019, 1:05 PM
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pretty high. If a chicken can sink in that much into a pour that sidewalk isn't going to last long.
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that's a lot of work for an above ground pool***
Dec 4, 2019, 1:17 PM
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"Not all cracks are the same."
Dec 4, 2019, 1:44 PM
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Just get you some bags of stuff at the store.***
Dec 4, 2019, 1:45 PM
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CU Medallion [64837]
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HOmebody quoted it at:
Dec 4, 2019, 1:48 PM
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$3685 + maybe $800-900 to bring in and spread around about 10 tons of dirt. He graciously gave me the option of bringing in my own dirt...
About half of it would be poured against existing pool slab, house foundation, or shed foundation. The the sidewalk portion, and outer sides of the patio and pool extension would need to be formed. Some of those forms would be curved... probably wouldn't be too difficult, though...
Sounds like I need to get a second quote.
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Oculus Spirit [75714]
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What about the option of saying to hell with this
Dec 4, 2019, 1:56 PM
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and using some sand and paves and landscape timbers in place of a sidewalk?
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Because that's what I had and I pulled them up already
Dec 4, 2019, 1:57 PM
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in a fit of rage.
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What did they do to you?***
Dec 4, 2019, 1:59 PM
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Let me tell you a story.
Dec 4, 2019, 2:03 PM
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I bought my house from my grandparents about 5 years ago.
The pool was put in in 1983. A beautiful concrete patio was installed a year or two later.
In the early 2000's, GrandmamAdidas had GrandaddyAdidas paint the whole concrete patio, pavers, etc. with red paint so it would look like brick.
That paint is some sort of magic paint that cant be removed short of grinding the whole thing down.
It looks horrible.
SarahAdidas wants it gone. I want it gone.
It has to go.
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Oculus Spirit [75714]
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So it was the painting of the pavers that is the issue?
Dec 4, 2019, 2:13 PM
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I ask because I day dream of making a path out to my shed. It won't be terribly long depending if I put some stairs on the back end of my patio or just use what I've got. I also consider running a path from front door to a flower bed since the current landing goes to nothing.
If this set-up can't be made to look good, I need to dream another dream.
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I wanted to build a duck pond for my ducks
Dec 4, 2019, 2:32 PM
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back when I had ducks, before my dog killed them.
I dug a hole and was going to line it with old carpet.
I let DaddyAdidas and SarahAdidas, and pretty much everybody talk me out of that idea, though.
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Re: HOmebody quoted it at:
Dec 4, 2019, 1:57 PM
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I could probably either have the dirt delivered or get it myself for maybe $200-300 for the 10 yards or so that he thinks are needed.
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50% requires expansion material at about $1/ft and zero
Dec 4, 2019, 1:57 PM
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forming? A little dirt work for $800-900?
Did you ask him to be gentle or just go in raw?
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Real interested to see what the other guy comes up with.
Dec 4, 2019, 1:59 PM
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Because, yea, that dude was trying to PIIMB
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I think he went with the old....calculate the cost of the
Dec 4, 2019, 2:08 PM
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job and multiply it by two.
Gotta get the kids a Playstation and some games for Christmas.
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So the second quote just came in....
Dec 4, 2019, 2:30 PM
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I had a good feeling about these folks, they seemed less sketchy, I guess.
Their quote was $6250!
Most of the folks I've asked at work guessed the job would be around $3000-$4000... which is inline with the first quote.
Are you guys that are estimating low just messing with me, or am I about to get gypped?
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If they're not sketchy, they're probably busy and don't
Dec 4, 2019, 2:37 PM
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really want to mess with your little $4k job. That's the vibe I've gotten from all of the landscapers I've ever dealt with. Once you start talking $20k+ is when you get their attention.
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I think you need to find yourself a Scooter
Dec 4, 2019, 3:29 PM
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or Rubberhead or Bigeye, someone with a name like that. That's the guy that will do it at a reasonable price. The guy in Iva is named Elmo.
I had 70 cy for my driveway and one guy wanted to rip me off, then I found the guy that was just making some front pocket money. And he done real good.
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I had a 18x20 driveway poured in 2013
Dec 4, 2019, 2:37 PM
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and it was $2500.
When you laid out all you needed I was going to guess $5k.
Hardest problem I had was getting someone to show up and give me a quote.
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curved forms are easy.
Dec 5, 2019, 7:30 AM
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Your best bet is to probably form it all yourself. bring in your own fill if you need too and compact it down. Order the concrete yourself Then find a couple mexicans on craigslist to come in and do the finish work.
In all reality finishing concrete on a patio isn't that hard. you could just get a construction joint tool and a few trowels. For sidewalks the surface is just brushed with a push broom.
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I've watched alot of concrete pours and finishing, but
Dec 5, 2019, 7:52 AM
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I am not sure I could do what they do. It SEEMS easy, but you are fucked if you mess it up. Concrete repairs stick out like sore wieners.
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Yeah, one girl was concerned but SHE was the one that caused
Dec 5, 2019, 8:59 AM
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it. It went away after a few days.
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You've inspired me.
Dec 5, 2019, 8:57 AM
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Maybe I'll call "Tee", or my brother's guy, "Stepp", and see what they would charge to come pour and smooth 9yds of concrete if I do the dirt work and the form work myself. I'm guessing it would be less than $2000.
I can form that job and do the dirt work on a weekend. I have an excavator, tractor, a surplus of scrap wood and whatnot. If ANYBODY was every going to take this job on and be successful, I'd be the guy. (not to toot my own horn) (or tiggity my own weiner)
A912®
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Last update
Dec 5, 2019, 12:55 PM
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So the $3685 quote guy says its 9 yards on the dot, more than my original estimate of 8. He is pumping in the concrete also. He says that they could use a truck, but given the layout of my yard, a pumper would be "better". He says that the drivers are retards and will make a mess, but my gut tells me the pumper is easier for him... He's also going to cut a 15' trench in an existing slab on the property so that I can lay some electrical wires in it. That was sort of a "throw in" item.
Probably 230' of forms needed and 100' of expansion joint material.
He's also going to do a salt rock finish.
What say you, Greenr, A912®? Does that quote sound a bit more "in-line" with the additional information.
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I was really hoping to hear where Tee would come in***
Dec 5, 2019, 12:58 PM
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Bend over and Tee'll show ya***
Dec 5, 2019, 1:06 PM
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Re: Last update
Dec 5, 2019, 1:15 PM
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Considering pump truck rentals are $800-1000, now it is really sketchy. Make sure he isn't charging you for that. If he isn't then that's a good deal I suppose. Make sure you got somewhere for them to wash out.
If he is gonna charge you extra then consider renting a Georgia buggy
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GA buggy is $100 per day and will carry about .5 yd
Dec 5, 2019, 1:19 PM
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They are fun to race too. DO NOT ATTEMPT WHILE INTOXICATED.
Or at least film it if you attempt while intoxicated.
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Re: GA buggy is $100 per day and will carry about .5 yd
Dec 5, 2019, 1:37 PM
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My local place is $145 for a 1 day rental. You can get it on either skid steers or tires. If I were ryanadidas i'd get them to do the buggy. A pump truck is overkill for only 9 CY unless it is physically impossible to get a buggy to the pour site. Usually only see the pump trucks on large pours.
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Yes, more inline. These are details we did not have
Dec 5, 2019, 1:16 PM
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early on. THe labor for going through the existing slab on the property seems like alot. Pump trucks are pretty asspensive as well. Good luck.
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