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YOUR BALANCE
43-18 in 2nd half
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43-18 in 2nd half


Dec 8, 2019, 3:59 PM

Pathetic in every facet. Back to back horrible games

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Re: 43-18 in 2nd half


Dec 8, 2019, 4:02 PM

After 10 years and what we lost from last year
Did you expect anything else.
This will be CBB last year or Clemson doesn’t care a bit about basketball

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This is Clemson Basketball.***


Dec 8, 2019, 4:02 PM



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Re: 43-18 in 2nd half


Dec 8, 2019, 4:03 PM

We are young. We are hurt. Brad has only had a few years. Give it time. I had onother one, but I forgot.

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You forgot


Dec 8, 2019, 4:07 PM

we're just bad. Bad offense, bad defense, bad rebounding. But hey, world chanps!

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Yeah bad loss...


Dec 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

We are going to win about 12 or 13 at most even after all the injured guys get back.

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Re: Yeah bad loss...


Dec 8, 2019, 4:30 PM

so losing to a ranked team on their home court is a bad loss huh. got it.

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Getting routed anywhere is a bad loss***


Dec 8, 2019, 6:30 PM



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Re: 43-18 in 2nd half


Dec 8, 2019, 4:08 PM [ in reply to Re: 43-18 in 2nd half ]

Its our fans fault according to Judge Keller.

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Yes, our fans are partly to blame.


Dec 8, 2019, 4:27 PM

As are the administrators, coaches, and players. Winning and losing are never solely due to one person or entity.

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Re: Yes, our fans are partly to blame.


Dec 8, 2019, 4:29 PM


As are the administrators, coaches, and players. Winning and losing are never solely due to one person or entity.


Thanks Mr & Mrs Groomes

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Re: Yes, our fans are partly to blame.


Dec 8, 2019, 4:31 PM [ in reply to Yes, our fans are partly to blame. ]

All I want is for our program to do well. I’m anxious to get the whole team healthy before we get too much further into the season and league play.

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It’s our fan’s fault we just lost at FSU?


Dec 8, 2019, 6:03 PM [ in reply to Yes, our fans are partly to blame. ]

SMH

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Re: It’s our fan’s fault we just lost at FSU?


Dec 8, 2019, 6:32 PM

Its partially your fault.

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Re: It’s our fan’s fault we just lost at FSU?


Dec 8, 2019, 6:38 PM

Who said I was a fan?

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


You aren’t a fan - Francis ?? That is ....


Dec 8, 2019, 6:52 PM

.... surprising !! -<img border=">

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If people were as good as their obituary - and products were as good as advertised - this would truly be a wonderful world !!


It shouldn’t be surprising. Francis Marion never seems to have anything positive to say.


Dec 8, 2019, 7:24 PM

Just arguments and attacks.

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Link to where I have ever attacked you?


Dec 8, 2019, 7:26 PM

More lies.

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Link


Dec 8, 2019, 7:31 PM

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Its-our-fans-fault-we-just-lost-at-FSU-26483698

You were "shaking your head" at Karen. That's considered a personal attack.

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Please don’t interrupt his search.


Dec 8, 2019, 7:34 PM

Thank you.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Do you ever have anything positive to say?


Dec 8, 2019, 7:41 PM

smh

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I was at Clemson during the Tommy West era...


Dec 8, 2019, 7:45 PM

and I am positive not once did I attribute our troubles to poor fan support or poor facilities.

PS: No “smh” personal attacks.

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I’m not searching.


Dec 8, 2019, 10:52 PM [ in reply to Please don’t interrupt his search. ]

I don’t care enough about this argument to search. HTH

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You’re confusing us having an argument with...


Dec 9, 2019, 5:21 AM

me pointing out another unsubstantiated claim.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


The success or failure of a program is due to a lot of people’s efforts.


Dec 8, 2019, 7:23 PM [ in reply to It’s our fan’s fault we just lost at FSU? ]

That should be common sense.

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Re: The success or failure of a program is due to a lot of people’s efforts.


Dec 8, 2019, 7:25 PM

Including Francis Marion.

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this is gonna be one of those painful Shyatt years***


Dec 8, 2019, 4:23 PM



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Re: 43-18 in 2nd half


Dec 8, 2019, 4:25 PM

It was not a fun game to watch.

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Re: 43-18 in 2nd half


Dec 8, 2019, 5:46 PM

Judge Keller ain’t going to like this ...... I am sure he has a good excuse for what went wrong this time because he always does........Go Tigers!!!!!

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Re: 43-18 in 2nd half


Dec 8, 2019, 6:05 PM

Judge is an excuse maker plain and simple. Want to talk about one guy making a difference??? How about dabo as our football coach. We went through a bunch of " nice people" who just couldn't win ball games and get over the hump. Brad is not that guy to get you over the hump . Results don't lie. Make all the excuses you want, but It's evident the program has gone downhill since purnell. Hardly any fans show up to the games. The passion just isn't in the gym as much as it use to. Our lack of offense makes the game slow and agonizing to watch. It's like watching a Gtech option offense. Facts are facts. Clemson needs to decide if mediocre /less than average is acceptable for our basketball program. After all it's a business and if u don't win games then the seats start becoming empty and fans lose support. I'd say that's 0-2. Time for a change

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People like you are what’s wrong with basketball at Clemson.


Dec 8, 2019, 7:32 PM

It’s not making excuses when I point out Clemson’s pathetic basketball history and our tendency to not support basketball worth a crap as an administration or as a fan base. Like it or not, those things matter. A lot.

Obviously the coach, and the staff he assembles and the players he receipts, matter a lot as well. But you act like it’s only about getting the right coach in place, and that simply isn’t true.

It was only a few years ago when Brownell got the facilities he needs and was given the salaries for assistant coaches and support staff he needs. Recruiting and wins have clearly improved since. I believe that it’s worth giving him another year or two to see what he can do with a more level playing field. Why don’t you?

As for Dabo, he’s done an outstanding job, but you’re kidding yourself if you think we would be where we are with our football program if our university and fans didn’t support the football program the way we do. If we supported football the way we do basketball, Dabo would’ve toiled in mediocrity at Clemson.

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It takes the right coach


Dec 10, 2019, 7:59 PM

Cremins did it at Tech. Holland at Virginia. #### Bennett at Wisconsin. Donovan at UF. Hamilton at FSU. Lefty at Maryland. None of those schools had much tradition. GT had some of the worst facilities in the country.

It's not impossible

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