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YOUR BALANCE
UPDATE: Teams have lost to unranked teams
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UPDATE: Teams have lost to unranked teams


Oct 9, 2015, 9:12 AM

as ranked teams since the last time Clemson did ("C-wording" per ESPN):

I've been updating this list for a couple of years and recently many people have said this is a pointless exercise (I mean, obviously, in the grand scheme of things it's pointless anyway) since we don't have that reputation anymore but I think anyone who's listened to any CFB sportstalk over this week has heard the C-Word bandied about in regards to our Tigers A LOT after the big win last Saturday night.

E.g.:

http://seminolepost.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2015/10/07/acc-power-rankings-avoid-clemsoning-and-clemson-is-in-playoff/

http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/10/clear-your-schedule-acc-2015-week-6/

http://collegefootballnews.com/2015/college-football-hot-seat-mike-riley-byog-cavalcade-of-whimsy-oct-6

http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/10/07/college-football-undefeated-2015-ohio-state-clemson

Our "enemies," to borrow a phrase from Attila the Hen, are sitting on the edge of their seats to see us drop a game to an unranked team down the stretch this year. So I think it's important to remind people how rare that has become under Dabo.

On that note, enter 3 teams this week (an last night) who are among the worst serial offenders on the list:

Top 10 and heretofore invincible-looking UCLA got spanked by Arizona St on Saturday, marking their 5th appearance on the List. Wisconsin also makes their 5th appearance after losing to unranked Iowa.

And if anyone stayed up late enough last night, USC (the real one), made another record-breaking appearance this season as they lost at home to their HC's former school. So Cal has now dropped games 6 times to unranked teams as a ranked team since we lost to NC St in '11. Maybe they should call it "SoCaling..."

Here's the List:

11/19/11: Clemson loses to NC St

9/8/12: #8 Arkansas 31, UL Monroe 34
#13 Wisconsin 7, Oregon St. 10
#16 Nebraska 30, UCLA 36
#18 OK St. 38, Arizona 59

9/15/12: #13 VT 17, Pitt 35
#25 BYU 21, Utah 24

9/24/12: #19 UCLA 20, Oregon St. 27

9/27/12: #8 Stanford 13, Washington 17

10/6/12: #3 FSU 16, NC St. 17
#15 TCU 23, Iowa St. 37
#24 Northwestern 28, Penn St. 39
#25 UCLA 17, Cal 43

10/13/12: #5 WVU 14, Tex Tech 49

10/20/12: #21 Cincinnati 23, Toledo 29

10/27/12: #7 Oregon St. 17, Washington 20
#10 USC (the real one) 36, Arizona 39
#18 Rutgers 23, Kent St. 35
#20 Michigan 9, Nebraska 23
#23 Ohio 20, Miami (OH) 23

11/3/12: #19 Boise St. 19, San Diego St. 21
#20 Tex Tech 22, Texas 31
#23: WVU 38, TCU 39

11/6/12: #23 Toledo 27, Ball St. 34

11/10/12: #11 Louisville 26, Syracuse 45

11/17/12: #2 Kansas St. 24, Baylor 52
#19 LA Tech 41, Utah St. 48
#23 Tex Tech 21, OK St. 59

11/22/12: #18 Texas 13, TCU 20
#19 Louisville 20, UCONN 23
#21 Rutgers 6, Pitt 27
#25 Miss St 24, Ole Miss 41

12/1/12: #14 Nebraska 31, Wisconsin 70
#24 OK St 34, Baylor 41

8/31/13: #19 Boise St. 6, Washington 38
#25 Oregon St. 46, E. Washington 49

9/7/13: #12 Florida 16, Miami 21
#15 Texas 21, BYU 40
#25 USC (the real one) 7, Wash St. 10

9/12/13: #24 TCU 10, Tex Tech 20
#20 Wisconsin 30, Ariz St. 32

9/9/13: Clemson-NC State: Jesse Palmer rants about “Clemsoning” for about 5 mins

9/28/13: #11 OK St. 21, WVU 30

10/5/13: #22 Ariz St. 34, Notre Dame 37
#24: Ole Miss 22, Auburn 30

10/12/13: #5 Stanford 21, Utah 27
#12 Oklahoma 20, Texas 36
#18 Michigan 40, Penn St. 43
#19 Northwestern 6, Wisconsin 35

10/18/13: #8 Louisville 35, UCF 38

10/19/13: #6 LSU 24, Ole Miss 27
#11 USuCk 21, Tenn 23
#15 UGA 27, Vanderbilt 31
#20 Washington 24, Arizona St. 53

10/26/13:#16 VT 10, Duke 13
#25 Nebraska 23, Minnesota 34

11/9/13: #14 Miami 24, VT 42
#24 Notre Dame 21, Pitt 28
#25 Tex Tech 26, Kansas St. 49

11/16/13: #5 Stanford 17, USC (the real one) 20
#24 Miami 30, Duke 48

11/23/13: #5 Oregon 16, Arizona 42

11/29/13: #16 Fresno St. 52, San Jose St. 62

11/30/13: #14 Wisconsin 24, Penn St. 31

12/30/13: #21 Arizona St. 23, Tex Tech 37

9/6/14: #8 OSU 21, VT 35

9/13/14: #9 USC (the real one) 31, BC 37
#17 VT 21, ECU 28
#21 Louisville 21, UVA 23

9/20/14: #8 LSU 29, Miss St 34
#18 Missouri 27, Indiana 31

9/27/14: #13 USuCk 20, Missouri 21

10/2/14: #2 Oregon 24, Arizona 31

10/3/14: #18 BYU 20, Utah St 35

10/4/14: #8 UCLA 28, Utah 30
#16 USC (the real one) 34, Arizona St. 38
#17 Wisconsin 14, Northwestern 20

10/11/14: #10 Arizona 26, USC (the real one) 28
#22 GT 25, Duke 31

10/18/14: #4 Baylor 27 WVU 41

11/1/14: #11 UGA 20, UF 38
#23 ECU 10, Temple 20

11/4/14: Clemson beats Wake in Winston-Salem on a Thursday night, Rece Davis wonders aloud if “Clemsoning” is applicable anymore; Jesse Palmer remains curiously silent; Rece Davis buried under The Meadowlands after Monday Night Football by ESPN

11/8/14: #3 Auburn 38, TAMU 41
#23 WVU 16, Texas 33

11/15/14: #6 Arizona St. 27, Oregon St. 35
#17 LSU 0, Arkansas 17
#18 ND 40, Northwester 43
#21 Duke 16, VT 17

11/22/14: #8 Ole Miss 0, Arkansas 30

11/28/14: #8 UCLA 10, Stanford 31
#24 Marshall 66, W. Kentucky 67

12/30/14: #23 LSU 28, Notre Dame 31

9/5/15: #15 Arizona St. 17, TAMU 38
#21 Stanford 6, Northwestern 16

9/12/15: #18 Arkansas 12, Toledo 16
#20 Boise St. 24, BYU 35

9/19/15: #6 USC (the real one) 31, Stanford 41

9/26/15: #20 GT 20, Duke 34
#22 BYU 0, Michigan 31
#25 Missouri 13, Kentucky 21

10/3/15: #7 UCLA 23, Arizona St 38
#19 Wisconsin 6, Iowa 10

10/8/15: #19 USC (the real one) 12, Washington 17

Arizona
Arizona St. (4)
Arkansas (2)
Auburn
Baylor
Boise St. (3)
BYU (3)
Cincinnati
Duke
ECU
Florida
Fresno St.
FSU
GT (2)
Kansas St.
LA Tech
Louisville (4)
LSU (4)
Marshall
Miami (2)
Michigan (2)
Missouri (2)
Miss St.
Nebraska (3)
Northwestern(2)
Notre Dame (2)
Ohio
Ohio State University, An
Oklahoma
OK State (3)
Ole Miss (2)
Oregon (2)
Oregon St. (2)
Rutgers (2)
Stanford (4)
TCU (2)
Texas (2)
Tex Tech (3)
Toledo
UCLA (5)
UGA (2)
USC (real one) (6)
USuCk (2)
VT (3)
Washington
Wisconsin (5)
WVU (3)

GO TIGERS!!!

BEAT THE BEES!!!



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but they changed the definition


Oct 9, 2015, 9:22 AM

Clemsoning refers to any Clemson loss, or even a near loss. Or a blowout. A loss to a higher ranked team, such as ND, would have been Clemsoning. A loss to a lower ranked team, or unranked team, would be called Clemsoning. If we have a chance to win and blow it, it's Clemsoning. If we never have a chance, like FSU two years ago, it was Clemsoning. We have to never lose a game again.

It's a total joke, designed by ESPN to hurt our great recruiting in the SEC footprint.

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Re: but they changed the definition


Oct 9, 2015, 9:36 AM

You mean the ACC footprint

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Re: but they changed the definition


Oct 9, 2015, 10:41 AM [ in reply to but they changed the definition ]

Seriously, that is the height of paranoia. You think that ESPN cares enough about Clemson and wants to hurt us enough that they perpetuate the term with the primary purpose of hurting our recruiting?

Are they biased toward the SEC? Sure. They're biased in part because the SEC has a lot of rabid fans who watch ESPN and want to see coverage of their teams. Likely, the money they have at risk and the partnership they have with the SEC Network enhances that tendency.

They don't, however, have any anti-Clemson bias and are not doing anything to hurt our recruiting. In fact, I've noticed a general tendency for ESPN to rate our recruits higher than other services. I've also noticed that the other services tend to be more accurate.

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Re: but they changed the definition


Oct 9, 2015, 12:06 PM

Then why do they perpetuate that term? and why the heck can't they pronounce Clemson correctly? Also, why does Mike Patrick drink so much that he thinks our basketball coach is Brownlee?

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ACC Wheel Of Destiny ?


Oct 9, 2015, 1:45 PM [ in reply to Re: but they changed the definition ]

Yes it was devised to hurt recruiting and keep the TV contract down.

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Re: but they changed the definition


Oct 10, 2015, 11:26 AM [ in reply to Re: but they changed the definition ]

The most idiotic post. We are where we are despite the fact that they constantly bash our program. There isn't one other team that has faced the constant bashing that we have and since there are many teams that should have to face espn's wrath, they get a free pass. Albern, florida, tennessee, texas hec even ND and both usuc's have underachieved for at least two years now. It's not like Clemson threw a wide receivers coach into the fire and made him the head coach at a major college football program.... No wait-they did. Think about what Dabo has created since he took over. He did it on the fly, while having to learn on the job. espn makes excuses for usuc for their loss of scholarships and Texas (just now) for what Charlie Strong has been faced with. Either start bashing other programs and stop bashing Clemson or ####.

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Here is my take T4L:


Oct 11, 2015, 4:50 AM [ in reply to Re: but they changed the definition ]

The league's exposure nationally helps in recruiting and image. One of the reasons that this league has developed into one of the top leagues in the country is because they have tremendous exposure. I think we had the best exposure from a TV standpoint in their last contract and this one is only going to enhance it more.

When I say "Take" I mean I LITERALLY took Saban's statement concerning the 2 BILLION DOLLAR contract with the sec in 2008. Look for yourself: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=3553033

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Yeah, it's killing us.***


Oct 9, 2015, 1:32 PM [ in reply to but they changed the definition ]



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Re: but they changed the definition


Oct 10, 2015, 10:55 AM [ in reply to but they changed the definition ]

You are so right!!!!
ANY loss by us is Clemsoning, even if we played the #1 team in the nation.

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Keep the torch burning, Ace! I also note that...


Oct 9, 2015, 9:25 AM

So Cal is not only the worst offender. The Trojans are also the unranked team that has beaten the most ranked foes on the list. Therefore ....

SoCal must be the most underachieving bunch, to have that much talent and not be consistently ranked ...

OR the Pac 12 must be woefully over-ranked as a conference.

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Would Make a Great Podcast or Youtube Video


Oct 9, 2015, 9:30 AM

Get it to go viral

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This deserves a Thank you!


Oct 9, 2015, 9:31 AM

This is immediate ammo for a cut and paste for any "blogger" to say that word we refuse to say, and shove it right in their pie hole.

I'm so sick of that crud it is truly unfair to these crops of kids that bust their tail.

K

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keep up the good fight


Oct 9, 2015, 9:34 AM

you are doing a great job!

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Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


Wow


Oct 9, 2015, 9:36 AM

that's impressive work. thanks ace!

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I for one am glad you are stopping. You are one of the most ignorant posters ever. You obviously think very highly of your own opinion, unlike the rest of us - RockHillTiger


Actual vs. Agenda.... +1.***


Oct 9, 2015, 9:39 AM



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At some point, inevitably, we will lose to an unranked team.


Oct 9, 2015, 9:42 AM

And the rest of the country will rejoice and beat their chests claiming that they were right all along.

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Are you the one that hit that wall...? ;~)***


Oct 9, 2015, 9:44 AM



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Re: At some point, inevitably, we will lose to an unranked team.


Oct 9, 2015, 12:09 PM [ in reply to At some point, inevitably, we will lose to an unranked team. ]

yep a broken clock is right 2 times a day

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Re: At some point, inevitably, we will lose to an unranked team.


Oct 10, 2015, 9:44 AM [ in reply to At some point, inevitably, we will lose to an unranked team. ]

NOT SO FAST, my friend! May NEVER happen EVER again! Go Tigers!

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Re: At some point, inevitably, we will lose to an unranked team.


Oct 10, 2015, 10:30 AM [ in reply to At some point, inevitably, we will lose to an unranked team. ]

Thanks for the effort of keeping this list. I don't care much what others think but I do like to recognize the continued excellence if Clemson Tiger football.

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This is not pointless... Get up the good work!


Oct 9, 2015, 10:10 AM

Send this to all the clowns who mention "Clemsoning" to show them how foolish they are.

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Good stuff!***


Oct 9, 2015, 10:14 AM



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Most and least favorite parts about this post:


Oct 9, 2015, 10:17 AM

I love this post. Keep up the good work.

Least favorite part: "Maybe they should call it 'SoCalin'." They shouldn't call it anything. It's sport. And moreso than just being sport, it's college sport. It's young people playing a game with a thousand factors involved and a thousand things going on in their lives outside of football, and the idea that the team that gambling money thinks is more likely to win occasionally loses should not come as a shock to anyone. It happens to numerous teams every week. The most amazing thing...and the thing that these people SHOULD be talking about...is how Clemson has executed so consistently over the past few years.

Favorite part (aside from the overall theme): "Ohio State University, An." :-D Hilarious.


We all know that ESPN and CBS commentators will bend over backwards to make a big deal out of it if we lose tomorrow. It's like a mass delusion.

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Wasn't Sammy Watkins a freshman in 2011?


Oct 9, 2015, 1:28 PM

NM

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dear Ace - your place in heaven is secure!***


Oct 9, 2015, 2:00 PM



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Re: UPDATE: Teams have lost to unranked teams


Oct 10, 2015, 9:28 AM

Wonderful thesis, congratulations on your masters degree!
;)

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everyone should cut and paste your post and email it to ESPN


Oct 10, 2015, 9:49 AM

Getting sick of it

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Tried emailing and couldn't do it....


Oct 10, 2015, 10:44 PM

Limited to 100 characters...

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Time to tack on ANOTHER Oklahoma and Georgia to the list***


Oct 11, 2015, 7:57 AM



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Re: Time to tack on ANOTHER Oklahoma and Georgia to the list***


Oct 11, 2015, 9:28 AM

This weeks should be fun to see after Dabo last night. Can't wait @acevans

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