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110%er [6095]
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West Virginia should be in ACC
Sep 3, 2017, 9:40 PM
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Should have taken them over BC
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academics bro***
Sep 3, 2017, 9:42 PM
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110%er [6095]
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Academics or not, they should have been taken
Sep 3, 2017, 9:45 PM
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Before BC or Syracuse
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Legend [19197]
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Syracuse should never have been taken.
Sep 3, 2017, 9:48 PM
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JMO. (TV markets or not.)
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That went out the window when Louisville got in. Also, West
Sep 3, 2017, 9:56 PM
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Virginia has many Rhodes Scholars and Fullbright Scholars. I think they have an excellent med school if I'm not mistaken. Their mission is to educate the people of West Virginia to the point that if someone graduates high school in West Virginia, they have the opportunity to attend WVU if they feel up to it and want to. That mission is what drags down their magazine rankings.
I sometimes wonder if Clemson, full of students from many other states, yet declining 4.0 students from the home state, has lost touch with its mission.
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Legend [15907]
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Great points. Tu!***
Sep 3, 2017, 10:33 PM
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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Here is something on their scholars
Sep 3, 2017, 11:44 PM
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https://about.wvu.edu/wvu-facts
Meanwhile UNC looks down its nose at West Virginia, while the Heels give bogus fake classes.
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All-In [40872]
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Good school good academics
Sep 4, 2017, 1:32 PM
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seriously Clemson is a great school, but we have no right to and shouldn't be snobby. Clemson is for average to above average kids and really is not that hard to get into.
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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my maon point was WVU's mission. I love the fact that
Sep 4, 2017, 12:23 AM
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Clemson has people from all over. But I have heard that there are 4.0 students in SC that could not get into Clemson. I think I've heard it on this very board. I used the same WVU facts that you did to point out their Rhodes Scholars, etc. and I will admit I was surprised to see that only 51% f their students are from West Virginia. That shocked me. I still think they are a better school than people give them credit for.
To your criticism, I think it is fair for you to call me out on saying maybe Clemson has lost touch with its mission. I really didn't have sufficient reason to make that statement.
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Athletic Dir [881]
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It's basically on the border with PA and very close to Ohio,
Sep 4, 2017, 12:32 AM
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WV doesn't have the population to fill up WVU.
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That's fair. I don't object to WVU, and have often said
Sep 4, 2017, 6:54 AM
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as much in Tigernet. Great fit geographically and many instant rivalries (Pitt, VT). Academics unfortunately ARE a consideration for the University Presidents who know their schools benefit by the reputation of the ACC. I'm not sure why the call went to Louisville after Maryland bailed...maybe a desperate attempt to make sure the football schools are comfortable. But that doesn't mean, as some are saying here, "oh well, academics don't matter anymore."
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Re: That went out the window when Louisville got in. Also, West
Sep 4, 2017, 9:49 AM
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A Rhodes Scholar is an individual. I don't understand why a few extremely gifted people graduating from any one university are indicative of what the university is academically throughout the university. Yes, it's nice, but I'm certainly not picking a college based on how many Rhodes Scholars graduated.
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Clemson has lost touch for sure, as well as no eye for the
Sep 4, 2017, 10:47 AM
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future. They VERY late admissions calendar pushes students to chose other schools that have accepted students much earlier and have scholarship offers with deadlines earlier then Clemson is even accepting students. My niece is a good example. 4.0 student looking to study engineering, with a dad, uncle, and aunt that are Clemson grads. Clemson would not even talk to her, so she currently is at Texas Tech with a 4.0 three years in. She will not be making any donations to Clemson, nor will my Brother. VERY short sighted to income over the long haul.
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Legend [15863]
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Good Lowered Dude - youu must be old as dirt
Sep 4, 2017, 5:43 PM
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you got a neice in kolledge . . . .
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Senior this year. And I believe YOU are a tick older.***
Sep 4, 2017, 7:12 PM
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Re: That went out the window when Louisville got in. Also, West
Sep 4, 2017, 5:13 PM
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I could be wrong, but isn't it in Clemson's original charter that 33% of the student population should be from out-of-state?
If so, that's why it's more competitive for in-state students ... Clemson can only take so many. You see the same thing at any other school that is #1 in the state (UVA, UNC, etc.)
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CU Medallion [56727]
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CU Medallion [51524]
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How could I forget about the commuter college loserville***
Sep 3, 2017, 11:13 PM
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1st Rounder [637]
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Academics argument rings hollow when we hired their Prez
Sep 3, 2017, 10:38 PM
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To be our Prez.
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CU Guru [1222]
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If academics are that important in ACC then....
Sep 4, 2017, 7:50 AM
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Why is a National Championship banner still hanging in the Dean Dome?
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CU Medallion [53716]
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North Carolina has certainly paved the way for them con-
Sep 3, 2017, 9:43 PM
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cerning academics.
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Legend [19590]
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Nope. You don't want WV fans anywhere around here.
Sep 3, 2017, 9:44 PM
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They make Coots look like Rhodes scholars.
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Re: Nope. You don't want WV fans anywhere around here.
Sep 4, 2017, 12:56 AM
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I really tried for about 30 seconds to imagine that scenario. Just couldn't get it to compute.
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Thanks, but no thanks***
Sep 3, 2017, 9:45 PM
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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I have always said that. Would make it contiguous also.***
Sep 3, 2017, 9:52 PM
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CU Guru [1630]
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Yep. Would take them over Syracuse or Pitt.***
Sep 3, 2017, 9:52 PM
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Orange Blooded [2663]
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no they shouldn't. university of phoenix has more stringent
Sep 3, 2017, 10:01 PM
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academics.
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Re: West Virginia should be in ACC
Sep 3, 2017, 10:05 PM
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I'd like to see West Virginia in the ACC with Notre Dame joining as a full football member. Split the divisions North-South. Clemson would be the biggest winner in that alignment because they'd be able to travel to the states where they recruit. NC, FL, and GA.
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CU Medallion [51928]
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Lock up your couches.***
Sep 3, 2017, 10:31 PM
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GO TIGERS!!
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All-TigerNet [13036]
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Don't want anything to do with those scumbags.***
Sep 3, 2017, 10:34 PM
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Re: West Virginia should be in ACC
Sep 3, 2017, 10:43 PM
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Atlantic coast had geographical meaning until lozerville.
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Legend [19197]
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Less concerned about perfect geography and more interested
Sep 3, 2017, 10:52 PM
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In close rivaries between close teams. BC, Syracuse, and Pitt are too far away to develop great border war rivaries like Clemson-UGA or Clemson-NCST. Louisville at least has a football pulse.
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All-In [43992]
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Subpar academics and horrible fans. No thanks.***
Sep 3, 2017, 10:54 PM
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110%er [6223]
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Re: West Virginia should be in ACC
Sep 3, 2017, 11:11 PM
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Their students save batteries all year and throw at opponents football players. I once sat in the student section at WV when a friend invited me to visit. We left during the 1st quarter, we were afraid a brawl would breakout against each other. They were throwing beer bottles at each other.
Don't get me wrong, many fans are great people, but many make MD fans seem civilized.
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Legend [16226]
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This is an entertaining football game tonight.
Sep 3, 2017, 11:17 PM
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It would be good for the league and all of college football if this series was played more often, with Pitt in the mix as well. WVa ultimately belongs in today's ACC with their location, passion, history, and competitiveness. Certainly wouldn't hurt their academic side.
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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just add them and get Notre Dame or USF to be members***
Sep 3, 2017, 11:39 PM
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Re: just add them and get Notre Dame or USF to be members***
Sep 4, 2017, 1:00 AM
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Already have two members in Florida. Don't need a 3rd. No to USF.
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Re: just add them and get Notre Dame or USF to be members***
Sep 4, 2017, 10:58 AM
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4 from NC???
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Re: West Virginia should be in ACC
Sep 4, 2017, 8:13 AM
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Anyone who would support such a move should be required to attend a West Virginia game and view their fans in person.
A professor of mine in college escaped from West Virginia and often said the reason West Virginia was so terrible was that anybody with any brains moved to Ohio. Let that sink in.
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Hell to the 'NO'***
Sep 4, 2017, 10:07 AM
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Re: West Virginia should be in ACC
Sep 4, 2017, 4:29 PM
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Burning couches are harmful to the environment.
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Orange Blooded [3723]
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Re: West Virginia should be in ACC
Sep 4, 2017, 4:58 PM
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No way man
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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Visit Boston or Morgantown? Not even a choice.***
Sep 4, 2017, 7:59 PM
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