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Lot o points [155874]
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So here's what's stumping me about Hillary.......
Mar 9, 2016, 3:14 PM
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Why is she dominating the black vote? I get it that the black community LOVED Bill. Hillary ain't Bill. If there were a dictionary listing for "white people that black people hate", Hillary would be the illustration. Elitist, wealthy, arrogant, snooty, ZERO life experiences to allow empathy for blacks, uptight, soulless.......the list goes on.
It's not just "because she's a Democrat". In reality, I think Sanders plans would probably also result in more $$$ being distributed to the black community than Hillary's would, but it doesn't matter.
So what gives? Is it just the Bill effect, or something else?
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Obama.***
Mar 9, 2016, 3:15 PM
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CU Medallion [73569]
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they support her BUT
Mar 9, 2016, 3:17 PM
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probably 50% less blacks will be even voting this year probably. There is no energy or excitement around her at all.
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I have my theory...
Mar 9, 2016, 3:18 PM
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I just don't think old white dudes resonate with them. Bernie would be better though. I agree.
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Re: So here's what's stumping me about Hillary.......
Mar 9, 2016, 3:21 PM
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How in the world her and Bill have skirted the whole issue of 3 strikes is against me. If the supposed over incarceration of black men is an issue to you, you should hate the Clintons.
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All-In [48078]
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Good point. **
Mar 9, 2016, 3:25 PM
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Re: Yea, the GOP fought the three strikes law tooth and nail.***
Mar 10, 2016, 8:11 AM
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Aye yes. . .the federal three strikes law, that presikings made. . .
(some states have habitual offender laws, but we don't have a federal one).
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Blacks were prominent in starting the war against drugs
Mar 9, 2016, 5:34 PM
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Which is a great illustration of the dilemma of incarceration for the black community: on the one hand, it takes criminals away and disproportionately makes black communities safer. On the other hand, since crime is committed at a disproportionate rate by black offenders, it takes a lot of people who are depended on out of the community and makes it difficult for them to get good jobs.
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Oculus Spirit [79428]
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As an aside: I think it's hilarious democrats have
Mar 9, 2016, 3:28 PM
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championed republicans as the party of old white people. Lo and behold here we are in 2016 with the democrats running two old white people while the republicans have had a pretty diverse field.
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Yet will be the first time either party has nominated
Mar 9, 2016, 5:13 PM
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a woman.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Bernie did ahhite among Blacks in Michigan.
Mar 9, 2016, 3:49 PM
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It's Blacks in the South that Hillary seems to have the lock on. Multifactorial, I am guessing. Associations with Obama & Bill, campaign infrastructure, the endorsement of prominent Black community members in the South, etc.
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Re: Bernie did ahhite among Blacks in Michigan.
Mar 9, 2016, 3:57 PM
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there is that, and then there are the republican policies that demonize the poor, and a voting base that "wants their country back"
and i find it especially cute that xtiger and wtrski are all of a sudden experts on racial issues.
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That doesn't explain why Hillary instead of Bernie***
Mar 9, 2016, 5:33 PM
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yep, and that was my point.***
Mar 10, 2016, 9:51 AM
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Right. The data is saw were 2:1 in Michigan vs. 8:1 in Miss.***
Mar 9, 2016, 9:22 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83075]
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Blacks like most Democrats must know that Bernie means
Mar 9, 2016, 5:11 PM
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certain defeat.
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Polls are polls but Bernie dominates the pubs, not Billary.
Mar 9, 2016, 10:48 PM
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The EXACT opposite is true. Billary loses against most Pubs. Truth always 'trumps' dishonesty... The Bern > Billary.
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I think it's mostly about security
Mar 9, 2016, 5:30 PM
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I don't mean physical security, but about the kind of peace of mind a lot of people would be looking for when they're part of a historically oppressed group of people. Democratic domestic policy has, for some time, been focused on directly providing economic security to "vulnerable" people. Over the last 30-40 years, and especially over the last 20 years, they've also targeted their policy at what they see as vulnerable identity groups.
Now, Bernie's policies would probably provide even more economic security (at least, directly, if not in terms of good paying jobs) than Hillary's would, as you said. But he's seen as something different and extreme, while Hillary is seen as the tried and true. When you feel vulnerable, you go with the tried and true because it seems safer. You have to be sure of somebody's solidarity with you if you think society is largely set up to disadvantage you. So maybe you go with Hillary over a Jew from New York who seems to be pretty extreme. He's too different, and therefore not as safe.
That might not be right, but it would make sense to me in their position. It also somewhat explains why Hillary has a bigger lead among southern blacks than among black people in the north. 80-90% of black people in the south voted for Hillary, but only 65% voted for Hillary in Michigan.
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"Jew from New York"... Your bigotry has become less nuanced.
Mar 9, 2016, 10:50 PM
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Go suxxor a big one...
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Nothing stumps me. She's a career politician and............
Mar 9, 2016, 7:03 PM
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### good at it. She's also a conniving biatch who should be in jail.
I would vote against her if she ran against Satan himself!
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She is stumping you because she is going to clean the Rep's
Mar 9, 2016, 7:32 PM
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clock come November, get used to it. Sorry you are so negative.
Go, winning Tigers, basketballers follow the lead of the baseballers. 
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If the FBI kicks the can... She's the best LIAR I've seen...***
Mar 9, 2016, 10:52 PM
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I've never supported Trump... Feel the Bern!!! Pay attention***
Mar 10, 2016, 11:49 AM
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