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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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Heisman Winner [119695]
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Dang aero...go get a beer!***
May 13, 2017, 1:03 PM
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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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Man, I'm on edge, can't go to a show tonight
May 13, 2017, 1:04 PM
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because I'm on call for work. Sitting at work right now with jack #### going on. I'll have some whiskey at 10.
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Heisman Winner [119695]
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Well...then a mini bottle outa desk drawer***
May 13, 2017, 1:06 PM
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Oculus Spirit [97711]
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I seem to recall that not so many years ago it was
May 13, 2017, 1:04 PM
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liberals decrying the dangers of vaccines. Then California, liberal ground zero, started to face the consequences. Now they're a liberal cause.
Whatever.
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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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It seems conservative folks have oddly taken a
May 13, 2017, 1:09 PM
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stance of to hell with science and knowledge. Conservatives can go about hating on others' lifestyles without trying to have us all get polio and small pox.
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Lot o points [180987]
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Rock Defender [53]
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All-In [49171]
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natural-born Americans should have the right to be stupid.
May 13, 2017, 2:11 PM
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although maybe the cost of no vaccinations to Our Society is higher than other ways to express your right to be stupid, like the no-helmet law in SC. Greater good, all that.
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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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The right to swing one's fist ends where the other man's
May 13, 2017, 2:18 PM
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nose begins.
For clarity, I hate helmet and seat belt laws. I don't have a motorcycle and would probably wear a full helmet if I got one, but the man should not be able to tell me I have to.
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All-In [49171]
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so how is that different from opposing vaccinations?
May 13, 2017, 2:51 PM
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there's lotsa people around here opposed to vaccinations, I never understood their point of view.
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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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Admittedly I don't know a ton about the
May 13, 2017, 3:19 PM
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vacancies and what all they prevent. I also don't know if it is possible for those who got vaccinated to still get it. If only the non-vaccinated can catch the stuff, then let them all suffer as they will. If it is possible to transmit to people who have had the shots, then it is a public concern. Also, this is more about why conservatives have fully turned on science.
Seat belt and helmet laws really only affect those that elect not to use them, their families, and maybe the unfortunate soul they may get in an crash with. There is the argument about insurance rates but I am not sure how much that really comes into play.
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Rock Defender [53]
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The issue has always been about protecting those who
May 13, 2017, 3:22 PM
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can't get vaccinated.
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Re: The issue has always been about protecting those who
May 13, 2017, 3:26 PM
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Who would that be in the US? Who cannot get vaccinations if they are needed?
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Rock Defender [53]
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Cancer patients for starters.***
May 13, 2017, 3:29 PM
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Rock Defender [53]
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I never suggested that people didnt have access to
May 13, 2017, 4:35 PM
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vaccines, I was merely pointing out that there is a population that can't be vaccinated that is protected by herd immunity.
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Rock Defender [53]
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And sometimes, healthy young children who've been
May 13, 2017, 4:38 PM
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vaccinated get sick and have their entire immune systems wiped out by chemicals. They then need those other healthy young children to make sure they won't beat cancer to die of the measles.
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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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Rock Defender [53]
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Those with weakened immune systems depend on herd
May 13, 2017, 3:31 PM
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immunity to protect themselves from many diseases that are preventable.
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Oculus Spirit [97711]
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I'm all for stupid. Not wearing a helmet on a motorcycle
May 13, 2017, 7:29 PM
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just means you're more likely to kill yourself. No vaccines means you're more likely to kill other people. THAT's the difference. And with that being said, I have no problem with withholding social security, medicaid, food stamps, education, or whatever.
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Does a state lawmaker from Texas define "conservatives"?***
May 13, 2017, 4:52 PM
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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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Yes it does, if you don't like that then you
May 13, 2017, 5:39 PM
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have to rally the more sane folks and have them be the loud ones.
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