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How do we justify raises at this point?
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How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 12:08 PM

Here are our number of wins over the past 3 years:

2018 - 15

2019 - 14

2020 - 10 [note: 29% decrease from 2019]

Given this disturbing trend, and the fact that each SEC team is bringing in $13M more per year than each ACC team, how do we justify giving large raises to our football coaches?

This doesn't seem to make good financial sense -- unless maybe NewSpring is covering the shortfall?

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You tell em coot.


Feb 5, 2021, 12:13 PM

SMH audibly

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Re: You tell em coot


Feb 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

The ‘audibly’ part wasn’t necessary. With the new audible version of tnet, most of us heard you’re head rattling when you shooked it.

hth?

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There's something going on behind the scenes


Feb 5, 2021, 12:16 PM

and I suspect it has something to do with the underground tunnel from NewSpring to the football complex.

Also, looking forward, our projected starting QB is only .500 as a starter... just like our win totals the past 3 years, we can only hope these are trends that won't continue, but it has yet to be seen.

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A Brave Attempt


Feb 5, 2021, 12:18 PM

at sarcasm or the beginning of a downward pulse spiral? Good luck.

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Re: A Brave Attempt


Feb 5, 2021, 12:19 PM

TNET doesn't have the manpower to send Bob's pulse in a downward spiral.

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I just contacted the mods, he will be losing all of his


Feb 5, 2021, 12:19 PM [ in reply to A Brave Attempt ]

points soon.

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Re: I just contacted the mods, he will be losing all of his


Feb 5, 2021, 12:24 PM

He will probably find them soon after he loses them.

If his points are anything like my truck keys, they will be sitting right where he left them.

Oddly enough, they are not always in the last place I look because I enjoy the chase.

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Re: A Brave Attempt


Feb 5, 2021, 12:26 PM [ in reply to A Brave Attempt ]

Maybe cycling out?

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 12:22 PM

On the other hand, the coaches probably saved the program a good bit of money on 10 extra days of COVID testing and protocols along with the expenses from a trip to Miami.

It's likely a push and the school wanted to reward the coaches for helping balance the budget.

It was either lose on January 1st or the 11th.

In true COVID-times trend, we took the financially responsible route.

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Hopefully we can cut


Feb 5, 2021, 12:25 PM

XC & TandF a second time to make up some of the difference ? ? ?

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 12:36 PM

I get that this is sarcasm, but in all seriousness how can college football sustain 15-20% raises on salaries and renegotiating every year. This isn’t intended as a slight at Clemson. We are one of the best teams so our coaches should be the top paid. However, at this rate in 10 years the top head coaches will be making $10 million a year and the top assistants $5 million. Less than 10 years ago the first assistants were crossing the $1 million salary and they are now more than double that. At what point does it burst?

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

We now have New Spring satellite churches so money is not a problem. Have one located in Columbia so the coots can actually see what is going on. But then again, I doubt many are church goers . That is based on their behavior at football games.

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

The coaches took a cut in 2020 and I'll bet there is a reduction if season is shortened in 2021 in the new contracts. Plus Dabo wanted to keep TE and others were calling.

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 1:31 PM [ in reply to Re: How do we justify raises at this point? ]

With the addition of salaries for the 10 on the field coaches, college football has added a core of individuals who support the 10 coaches. Those individuals salaries are fairly high. If you run a search of South Carolina state employees over $50,000 a year, you will find a good number of the support staff in that category. I don’t think it can be sustained without wealthy donors. We have a good staff and I’m grateful for how Coach Swinney runs our program, but it is clear that no one is watching spending. No one will say no.

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Got a Clemson update saying fundraising tripled since 2013


Feb 5, 2021, 5:11 PM [ in reply to Re: How do we justify raises at this point? ]

I think they’re staying ahead of those pay raises.

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Re: Got a Clemson update saying fundraising tripled since 2013


Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

Good to know that. Thanks.

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point? w sell fewer tix


Feb 5, 2021, 12:52 PM

so I think we hope to make up for it in volume. HTH?

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

Keep in mind those with the raises are gubbermint employees


They get raises when they provide lower results.


If they were politicians, they would get paid more NOT to coach like they do in Columbia.

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 7:08 PM

Just for info the large portion of our coaches salary comes from athletic department iptay money not state or college funds. If you got good coaches you either pay up so they stay or you lose them

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 3:30 PM

Tony Elliott's raise was easy to justify...... Dabo just took it out of Danny Pearman's check and added it to Tony's...... so no increase in total coaching salary.

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Re: How do we justify raises at this point?


Feb 5, 2021, 10:43 PM

IMO with all the obstacles Dabo and his staff had to overcome a lot, much caused from Covid. I think this is one of the best coaching jobs by Clemson’s staff with so may unknowns this year. I think the pay increases are well deserved. DRad is making a great investment in retaining TE and the other coaches.

Clemson Athletics was hit hard with injuries and Covid this season. I am proud of the way the Coaching Staff’s and the Player’s handled this season and the success they were able to have based on all of the obstacles they had to overcome.

Congrats to the Basketball team for a big Win over NC. Brad Brownell has done a good job based on the hoops he has had to clear. Let’s give him our support.

As far as the money shortage Bob can just write a check to make up the difference. Lol ?? if I wrote such a large check it would bounce and bounce and bounce and bounce. ??

Seriously though if each Clemson Alumni or Fan who does not contribute to Clemson Athletics could do so this year which would really help the AD rebound from Covid 2020. I pledge to make a contribution to the Clemson’s AD and to Winthrop University. I am not posting this for bragging rights for donating money. It’s a challenge to all Clemson Tiger fans who normally do not donate to do so this year. They really need the extra money this year.

All though I am not a Clemson Alumni my daughter is, Class 2015. Since I was a kid I have been a big time Clemson fan. I love Clemson as much as anyone.

Let’s show the coots what The Clemson Family can accomplish! ??????


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Feb 5, 2021, 11:07 PM



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This is probably the last post of yours I'll ever have to...


Feb 5, 2021, 11:16 PM

read. Thanks for making this decision an easy one for the mods.

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Feb 5, 2021, 11:51 PM

They are funneling in from Tijuana. It’s going be ok. Te lo prometo

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