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Letterman [256]
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Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 10:46 AM
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I’ll admit I don’t know a ton about their coaching staff, other than what I’ve heard regarding new OC and how he’s changed the scheme to be so explosive this year. However, Compared to Ohio St, I have to think it’s a step down in overall coaching in-game adjustment ability, which I hope bodes well for us.
Passing game elite and much better than OSU
Running game probably not quite as good
O line just as strong unfortunately
Secondary nearly as strong as OSU
Pass rush/run D not as good thankfully
Tough matchup! Should be fun. We gotta get to Burrow
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Re: Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 11:16 AM
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Agree, need to put some pressure on JB. We don't need a ton of sacks. As we saw last night, just an orange blur in your peripheral vision is enough to cause some mistakes. JB gets the ball out quickly, though, so will be a defensive challenge.
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Re: Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 11:19 AM
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LSU has a good secondary.
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Tiger Cub [12]
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Re: Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 11:19 AM
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First off, congrats. We look forward to a clash of the tigers in Nola.
Our defense has been adjusting well lately. I haven’t watched tOSU enough to compare.
-You’re correct about the passing game. It is elite and far better than anything your tigers have seen this year.
-You’re wrong about the run game. We’re loaded with one of the most talented backfields in the country.
-Nailed it on the O-line. They have been a nice surprises this season.
-Wrong on secondary. Our guys are far better than what you guys went up against with Ohio
State.
-Sadly, I have to admit you are correct on pass rush and run D. Hopefully, getting Divinity back for this game will mark some improvement.
Finally, for any of you traveling to New Orleans, enjoy your trip. Most of us aren’t as bad as the reputation you’ll see on some of the message boards. May the best Tigers win!
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Letterman [256]
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So you agree with the praise, and disagree with more critical statements
Dec 29, 2019, 11:43 AM
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Surprise! Haha good to have some info back and forth man. Agree that your running game is formidable, but Helaire is no Dobbins - that kid looked truly elite last night before the ankle injury. Regarding secondary, that’s been your bread and butter last few years, and certainly top 3 in the country - but regarding individual (specifically cornerback) talent, Okudah and Co have the edge - though your safety play is better w Delpit, so could be a wash.
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Tiger Cub [12]
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Re: So you agree with the praise, and disagree with more critical statements
Dec 29, 2019, 1:26 PM
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I’m looking forward to the in game thread on game night.
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Re: So you agree with the praise, and disagree with more critical statements
Dec 29, 2019, 1:44 PM
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LSU has a great secondary. So does OSU. Okudah will be a top-10 pick. The other CBs are great as well. LSU is better at Safety. We played a large chunk of this game with our best WR on the sideline. Should be a great matchup, our WR against your DBs and vice-versa. This is where the game will be won or lost.
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Re: So you agree with the praise, and disagree with more critical statements
Dec 29, 2019, 1:39 PM
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Dobbins cannot catch a ball. Helaire has WR soft hands and can pick up the blitz. Dobbins may be a better runner but helaire is the complete package (think darren sproles) which is what makes Helaire so dangerous in the offense.
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Re: So you agree with the praise, and disagree with more critical statements
Dec 29, 2019, 1:56 PM
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Helaire is nowhere near the runner Dobbins is . He's not even as good as their backup RB .
As far as catching it out of the backfield you're right , Helaire is a good reciever with decent power and ok speed .
He'll be a tough cover , but don't compare him as a runner with what OSU has .
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^ Thx LSU Tiger for coming on & not being a jerk!
Dec 29, 2019, 11:43 AM
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YeP, gonna be a barn-burner & a Tiger Group is gonna win!
LoL
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All-TigerNet [13036]
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No your secondary is not better
Dec 29, 2019, 11:48 AM
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More big names perhaps, but not actually better.
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110%er [6224]
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agree.
Dec 29, 2019, 11:49 AM
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entire defense is not as good as OSU.
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Re: Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 1:52 PM
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Your secondary is comparable to the Buckeyes secondary , not better .
Your run game is inferior to theirs and it's not close .
What you have is a good OL and a really great QB throwing to really good WRs .
We have that too . Our secondary is very good as well . Should be fun .
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Orange Blooded [3220]
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one thumb up for your name “barnaby Jones”.
Dec 29, 2019, 2:37 PM
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jed clampett sends his regards.
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110%er [6224]
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Ole Miss hung a quarter season worth of yards
Dec 29, 2019, 11:21 AM
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on that D. I think Ohio State was a better team going into the playoff than LSU and still do. Oklahoma is trash.
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All-TigerNet [13036]
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I'm not sure anything gets more overblown here
Dec 29, 2019, 11:53 AM
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than the yards LSU allowed to Ole Miss in the 2nd half.
1) They were up 21 pts pretty much the entire time that was happening.
2) It was the week after the Bama game
3) I'm pretty sure that was the backup QB coming in and just running Rich Rods RPO scheme and it didn't look like LSU was ready for that.
4) LSU had some guys dealing with injuries (Delpit in particular)
5) Their defense has played really well in their last 3 or 4 games.
I could probably go on, but the short of it is don't fall into the trap of putting too much stock into one small event, especially when it occurred 2 months ago.
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110%er [6224]
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you mean like when Big Dex missed our title game
Dec 29, 2019, 11:58 AM
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or when Sammy goes out on the first play of the game against LSU 2012? I could also name more. I do realize it was one game but it DID happen and Ole Miss is....Ole Miss. I said it earlier and I'll say it again: we played the better defense last night. Does that mean LSU will be a pushover? Not in the least but they are more vulnerable than OSU. I have no doubts about that statement.
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CU Guru [1405]
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Re: you mean like when Big Dex missed our title game
Dec 29, 2019, 2:04 PM
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The trouble with that logic is that North Carolina is North Carolina too.
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Re: you mean like when Big Dex missed our title game
Dec 29, 2019, 2:08 PM
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UNCheat would beat Ole Miss up and down the field .
Better QB , better coaching .
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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Go take a look at LSU's game by game stats. They allowed
Dec 29, 2019, 2:34 PM
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Texas to run up 530 yards of total offense and 38 points (LSU won by 7 points)
Vandy score 38 points and ran up close to 400 yards of offense on LSU.
UF had 457 yards of offense and led until late in the third quarter in Baton Rouge.
Bama scored 42 points and rolled up 541 yards of total offense on LSU
Ole Miss put up 614 yards of total offense and scored 37 points.
If Auburn could throw a forward pass they would have beaten LSU. Auburn only passed for 157 yards, because Nix was lost. He was painful to watch. Even with as bad a passing game as Auburn's, LSU only won 23-20 in Baton Rouge.
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All-In [38422]
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Re: Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 1:49 PM
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Going to be a grind . We'll need to have success against their defense ( and I believe we will ) and our own defense will have to play their best game of the year ( as I expect them to ) .
We're the underdog playing an undefeated team in their backyard .
Big disadvantage to be sure .
Tigers have got to earn it once again .
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Re: Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 1:54 PM
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Just be Clemson and keep mistakes at a minimum. Last year Bama with a healthy Tua seemed unbeatable (he was injured during the SECCG vs UGA).
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Re: Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 2:11 PM
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I dunno, the LSU defense gives up 118 ypg / Clemson 112 ypg
I look at all the comparable stats with both defenses and what jumps out is LSU beat 5 of the top 13 teams in the country. #4,#5,#9, #12, #13. Clemson beat #2 Ohio St. I honestly do not see this game being close unless LSU plays its worst game of the year.
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Re: Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 2:12 PM
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Run defense
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All-In [43992]
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That’s great, but none of those teams are Clemson.
Dec 29, 2019, 2:14 PM
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Clemson is much better than anyone LSU has played this year.
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Re: Initial LSU thoughts
Dec 29, 2019, 2:13 PM
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Clemson Tigers 38-31.
Our defense is the difference as we make more stops.
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