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Immigrant Clemson Band member raising his tuition money
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Immigrant Clemson Band member raising his tuition money


Jul 13, 2014, 12:26 PM

http://www.gofundme.com/b83pf4
I've never seen anything like this. Looks like he's doing well so far, but still has a ways to go.

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It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a


Jul 13, 2014, 1:21 PM

free college tuition to immigrants. A debt-free college education is an absolute RIGHT of all people, just like healthcare. Why does the government hate immigrants so much that they won't just give it to them?

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Re: It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a


Jul 13, 2014, 1:55 PM

Immigration status prevents him from getting loans? Possibly illegal? If he is illegal he shouldn't get loans much less free assistance.

If that is not the case.....I still don't believe in giving it away just because they are immigrants. We have plenty of bright Americans that need help. Whose families have paid taxes for decades. Why do people that just show up and get more help than people that are already here?

None the less .... More power to him. Work hard and stay focused on your goals and you will achieve them.

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Didn't just show up


Jul 13, 2014, 2:03 PM

Came here 8 years ago
Graduated from Easley HS
These kids are truly in a no win situation
No where to just " go back home" to and not accepted here either

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Ok he's here lawfully. No one


Jul 13, 2014, 2:41 PM

Is entitled to anything other than what they work for. There are lots of people that do without. Why should being an immigrant put you at the front of the line? He is working for it..... Good for him. We could use more people tgat are willing to work for their dreams in this country

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Why should being a legal immigrant


Jul 13, 2014, 2:43 PM

Keep you out of the line. He pays taxes just like everyone else.

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Re: Why should being a legal immigrant


Jul 13, 2014, 2:48 PM

If he is legal it shouldn't. But maybe he is still a citizen elsewhere. Which would keep him out of the loan and grant system. As it should. It's tough. But at least he gets to be here and gets the opportunity to go get it.

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If you pay taxes into the system


Jul 13, 2014, 2:49 PM

Which he does, it shouldn't matter.

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It just dawned on me that we are arguing about something


Jul 13, 2014, 2:53 PM

without the full amount of information. So tell me.

What is it about his immigration status that keeps him from obtaining loans, grants etc?

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An interesting question


Jul 13, 2014, 2:55 PM

It means he doesn't fall into one of these categories.

https://studentaid.ed.gov/eligibility/non-us-citizens

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Just because you pay taxes doesn't


Jul 13, 2014, 4:41 PM [ in reply to If you pay taxes into the system ]

Give you the same rights as a citizen. As it should be.

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Re: Why should being a legal immigrant


Jul 13, 2014, 3:04 PM [ in reply to Why should being a legal immigrant ]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! since when have those $%@&#^&#$ EVER made one contribution???they are LEACHES that should get NOTHING!!

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^^^Doesn't realize his ancestors came from another country***


Jul 13, 2014, 3:17 PM



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He doesn't care


Jul 13, 2014, 3:51 PM

He's too stupid to know any better.

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Re: He doesn't care


Jul 13, 2014, 4:14 PM

Why does the argument divert to someone's ancestors? Is it strictly a diversionary tactic? I think so as it has nothing to do with the point at hand..nothing...If he is a legal citizen he should qualify..my ancestors came from over seas which I would imagine most, if not all, of those posting on here did.What matters is here and now. Right here, right now. If he is legal, he should get aid. If not, no aid. There are plenty of kids that were born here that would love to go to a school of the quality that is C L E M S O N and yet cannot due to family income, and they are being asked to step to the rear when it comes to aid. Make sense much?

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Yes, you know what, you're right


Jul 13, 2014, 6:13 PM

No immigrant has ever contributed anything to this country founded by immigrants.

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i think they have to beat up a bunch of natives first and


Jul 13, 2014, 6:19 PM

if they do that, at minimum we can put them in jail now where my tax dollars can continue to be put to good use.

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Native Americans?***


Jul 13, 2014, 6:27 PM



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does it matter? somebody's going down to make room for


Jul 13, 2014, 6:30 PM

all the indentured servants escaping the religious intolerance running rampant in europe.

i got a hondo on the doods in the funny hats sporting firesticks.

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To be fair


Jul 13, 2014, 6:32 PM

I believe the Pilgrims were pretty much kicked out of their own countries for being extreme religious fundamentalists. These guys are just following in a proud tradition.

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to be fair, i don't think the "reason" really matters or


Jul 13, 2014, 6:37 PM

maybe there's fine print on lady liberty?

i think they just ask you to check your coat and hat at the door before you sit down to register...

and it wasn't just pilgrims in funny hats & it wasn't just pilgrims kicking the #### out of the natives as manifest destiny led people westward.

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Actually


Jul 13, 2014, 6:38 PM

The natives kept the Pilgrims from eating each other and were repaid in beads and smallpox.


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i never mentioned pilgrims, st augustine & jamestown


Jul 13, 2014, 6:40 PM

were prior.

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Is Georgia still a penal colony?


Jul 13, 2014, 6:44 PM

Asking for Mark Richt.

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could be, is he looking to start an australian rules team?***


Jul 13, 2014, 6:46 PM



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Maybe, being a penal colony could explain


Jul 13, 2014, 6:52 PM

having to recruit players like Crowell, Matthews, Mettensexualassualter, etc... It's not Mark's fault, they were destined to be bad seeds.

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poor mark, he should have studied his agrippa...***


Jul 13, 2014, 7:07 PM



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Sounds like a great way to build a country.***


Jul 13, 2014, 6:35 PM [ in reply to does it matter? somebody's going down to make room for ]



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it was, the new world; yet we continue to #### on it & allow


Jul 13, 2014, 6:38 PM

others to as well.

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Re: it was, the new world; yet we continue to #### on it & allow


Jul 14, 2014, 9:25 AM

You have problems

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and you're one of them...


Jul 14, 2014, 9:44 AM

moran.

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i don't know, with a name like Litefoot he could be a redskin.***


Jul 13, 2014, 7:01 PM [ in reply to He doesn't care ]



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I always picture Gordon Lightfoot


Jul 13, 2014, 7:03 PM

Except in a basement with American flag depends.

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Re: Why should being a legal immigrant


Jul 14, 2014, 5:28 PM [ in reply to Re: Why should being a legal immigrant ]

I'm not sure why, but whenever I read these great posts this classic song immediately pops into my head:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs

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Re: It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a


Jul 13, 2014, 2:33 PM [ in reply to Re: It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a ]

As a father that has worked all my life to give my children a good life with the opportunities for them that come with that, I can totally sympathize with this young man's (Jesus)position. This is a great country. No other like it in the world. I have not one problem with folks coming here to provide a better life for their families. As a person who has paid taxes all my life, I do however, have a problem with folks that enter this country illegally expecting to be handed all that this country offers ahead of other citizens. This young man evidently has the work ethic to make it (judging from one page on an internet site.)I haven't found it, and I've looked, anywhere that it is written that a "free" education is a right of all citizens (free in quotations as Nothing is ever "free".Someone has paid for it somewhere along the line-usually through taxation). I applaud his effort and his perseverance and wish him the best.

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Re: It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a


Jul 13, 2014, 2:48 PM

Point well said

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Re: It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a


Jul 13, 2014, 4:17 PM

The we do chicken right is great...Can't wait until August....

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Re: It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a


Jul 13, 2014, 4:40 PM [ in reply to It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a ]

Your free loading mentality makes me want to puke.
People like you need to be educated more on where
money comes from and how hard folks have to work.
You may be trying to be funny but it doesn't appear
that way.If you are,i still can't laugh at it.

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I think you have rights and desires mixed up***


Jul 14, 2014, 10:03 AM [ in reply to It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a ]



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i believe it was Margaret Thatcher who one sais


Jul 14, 2014, 10:35 AM [ in reply to It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a ]

Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples' money to spend. I honestly hope your post was sarcastic. If not, pretty sad some dont realize how we got to be wealthy and able to help the world

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Re: It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a


Jul 14, 2014, 5:07 PM [ in reply to It's a shame that a country this wealthy can't just give a ]

You're fricken funny dood. You should take that act on teh road.

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This guy has got to be kidding.....


Jul 13, 2014, 1:38 PM

First of all, anyone that is that stupid to send a donation to some web site w/I having any other knowledge of who the person is, deserves to be ripped off. So, cheers to this illegal immigrant if he is able to sell his story and make $.

Secondly, I don't feel one bit sorry for anyone who is in this country illegally. Go back home and get in line by doing it the "Legal" route like my wife had to do. Come here AFTER you have something to contribute to our nation.

Thirdly, there are plenty of legal American kids who deserve the opportunity ahead of you, Hombre.

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Re: This guy has got to be kidding.....


Jul 13, 2014, 1:43 PM

last I checked, anyone can attend our universities, even non citizens.

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He reminds me of why I despise most yankees


Jul 13, 2014, 1:48 PM

even ex yankees. Good work of crawling out of your moms v-jay in the U.S. ex -yankee. It's quite an accomplishment.


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Re: He reminds me of why I despise most yankees


Jul 13, 2014, 1:57 PM

if he were a 5 star receiver instead of an honors student playing in the marching band, you would see no complaints.

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I guess you despise the rule of law "Obama" lover.


Jul 14, 2014, 5:00 PM

N/m

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Re: I guess you despise the rule of law "Obama" lover.


Jul 14, 2014, 7:13 PM

congrats on bumping this thread back so more people can donate, I think he is up to 4k now

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Hmm, interesting


Jul 14, 2014, 7:31 PM

Maybe exyankee is actually helping this young man raise money. Good work exyankee, your ignorance and bigotry is inspiring people.

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Re: Hmm, interesting


Jul 14, 2014, 7:51 PM

he'll have his grad school costs shored up in no time. Hopefully he will become exyankee's boss.

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You must be a parasitic Illegal there "Drew"...


Jul 14, 2014, 4:53 PM [ in reply to He reminds me of why I despise most yankees ]

Go back to your 3rd world dumpster if a country and get in line like all of the legal immigrants have to. Deusch Bag.

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Re: You must be a parasitic Illegal there "Drew"...


Jul 14, 2014, 5:05 PM

You're a special breed of idiot, aren't you?

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Excuse me carpetbagger


Jul 14, 2014, 5:47 PM [ in reply to You must be a parasitic Illegal there "Drew"... ]

There are several roads back to New Jersey, maybe you can find one.

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It's not a scam


Jul 13, 2014, 2:25 PM [ in reply to This guy has got to be kidding..... ]

I went to school with him, wasn't friends with him but always seemed like a friendly guy. Ps he isn't here illegally

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Once a Yankee, always a Yankee***


Jul 13, 2014, 6:17 PM [ in reply to This guy has got to be kidding..... ]



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You're ancestors were illegal immigrants, since we stole...


Jul 14, 2014, 10:23 AM [ in reply to This guy has got to be kidding..... ]

this land from native americans. So basically, by hating immigrants you are hating yourself.

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no they weren't


Jul 14, 2014, 3:41 PM

there was no law

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I hope you are joking...otherwise you are an idiot. Go...


Jul 14, 2014, 5:10 PM [ in reply to You're ancestors were illegal immigrants, since we stole... ]

read Dinesh D'Souza's book "America" or watch the documentary. Maybe you will pick something up that you missed in your revisionistic history class.

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101 donations so far...


Jul 14, 2014, 5:17 PM

This isn't a tax you stupid nitwits. This is Clemson people helping out one of their own. No one is forcing them. They're just thinking about someone other than themselves who they can help out with a few bucks.

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How about you shut up, your stupidity


Jul 14, 2014, 1:11 PM [ in reply to This guy has got to be kidding..... ]

is giving me a headache. I am in Tiger Band and I am very good friends with Jesus. He is not an "illegal", he has lived here for almost a decade. He doesn't even have an accent. He's one of the friendliest, funniest, and most personable guys I've met. Likewise, he is also one of the hardest working members of the band, and is a leader among the whole group. I've known him 3 years now I and can't think of anyone more deserving of a scholarship than him.

Some of the posters on here are complete morons. First of all, how can this exyankee call himself a tiger fan for bashing one of the hardest working and most committed members of Tiger Band?

Its hard to believe people can this ignorant.

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Btw, you forgot the "Illegal" in front of Immigrant***


Jul 13, 2014, 1:39 PM



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Re: Btw, you forgot the "Illegal" in front of Immigrant***


Jul 13, 2014, 1:53 PM

Hopefully as you grow up and gain perspective it won't be too painful.

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Probably too late for this one


Jul 13, 2014, 1:54 PM

He won the birth country lottery and feels like he has earned the right to look down on those who didn't.

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It is way too late for him. He has no heart or compassion.***


Jul 13, 2014, 3:47 PM



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No, my grandfather emigrated here and didn't expect...


Jul 14, 2014, 4:59 PM [ in reply to Probably too late for this one ]

Or receive any Guvment assistance. He learned the language and willingly shed all of the failed politics and culture of his homeland to become a fully vested American war hero, property owner, tax payer and citizen so go $crew yourself.

Oh, and btw, I went on to serve as a decorated Combat officer for my country. How about you, parasite?

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Are you so dense to consider student loans gvt assistance?


Jul 14, 2014, 5:51 PM

You do realize you have to pay them back, with interest, and they can't be discharged...ever. Student Loans are one of the best investments the government can make.

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Guess you missed the "I am here lawfully" part


Jul 13, 2014, 1:58 PM [ in reply to Btw, you forgot the "Illegal" in front of Immigrant*** ]

Go Tigers! Hate you are having to give up your extra curriculars that add so much.

Best of luck.

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Re: Come on you liberals. Show your compassion, Don't wait


Jul 13, 2014, 2:08 PM

on the government.

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This lib will put 50 dollars up if you will.


Jul 13, 2014, 2:12 PM

Actually I'm putting up 50 regardless. Care to match?


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O.K. donation made


Jul 13, 2014, 2:19 PM

Still waiting on you Peanut.

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Still clinging tight to those conservative purse strings?


Jul 13, 2014, 2:36 PM

Probably shouldn't call people out without being willing to put up yourself.

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Re: Still clinging tight to those conservative purse strings?


Jul 13, 2014, 4:20 PM

I don't believe that was his point (calling people out).

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Re: Still clinging tight to those conservative purse strings?


Jul 13, 2014, 4:57 PM

Being liberal does not make you better or more intelligent than a conservative. See U.S. government and the shambles it is in due to liberal thinkers.

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Re: American guilt runs strong in this lib!


Jul 13, 2014, 6:08 PM [ in reply to Still clinging tight to those conservative purse strings? ]

I guess you think that we should just pay for everything for everybody throughout the entire world. After all, it is a "right"-at least in your mind. Yes, in a world with unicorns and rainbows, that might work. This is the real world. We can only borrow so much money from the Chinese. Or maybe we should just give all our pay checks to the government and let them decide how much we should keep. I would love to see Obummer sign an executive order that no one can make over $35,000 a year.

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Yawn


Jul 13, 2014, 6:17 PM

First off, last time I checked, while there are no unicorns, rainbows are an actual thing. Second, this isn't about politics, it's about a Tiger, a Clemson Tiger, a kid that works hard and does the right thing struggling to finish his eduction because he isn't eligible for the same assistance as everyone else. I'm not sure if you've ever had a student loan, but it's not exactly free money. I would say this is more of an Orange issue than a Red or Blue issue, but that's just me.

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Good luck with your "guilt" hope it makes u fell better....


Jul 14, 2014, 5:35 PM [ in reply to This lib will put 50 dollars up if you will. ]

n/m

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I fell pretty good today


Jul 14, 2014, 6:02 PM

how does u fell 2day?

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My wife taught him and confirmed


Jul 13, 2014, 6:00 PM

He is really a great kid, hard worker, and very smart. I will give $50

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$17,000,000,000,000 national debt and still rising...***


Jul 14, 2014, 8:31 AM



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Re: $17,000,000,000,000 national debt and still rising...***


Jul 14, 2014, 8:35 AM

obama @ his best!! he is well on his way to his goal of completely ruining the USA!! if he has his way his muslim brother will take us over and simply eliminate our country!

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Which President started this deficit by carrying out two...


Jul 14, 2014, 10:31 AM

wars at the same time and had huge tax cuts right when the wars were going on. Yes, thats right George W Bush. Oh but I forgot, in the tin foil hat world of right wingers George W Bush was never President. According to right wingers we went straight from Bill Clinton to Barack Obama. I think we should start believing right wingers that the years 2001-2009 never happened.

Wait a second what the he!! does the deficit have to do with a kid trying raise tuition money. Not a d@mn thing.

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Didn't mean to strike a nerve....


Jul 14, 2014, 2:04 PM

My response was to answer the question, "why doesn't our government help out?"
Not a fan of the Iraqi War myself. Not much of a fan of any war. The current president called the Afgan War a just war.
Regarding the Federal Debt, the sad thing is that retirement benefits such as Social Security and Medicare, veterans, senior and retiree plans aren't even included in the 17 trillion figure. In June of 2010 that total number owed along with the deficit was 61.6 trillion (according to article written by Dennis Cauchon, in the USA Today). Today, that figure is much larger.
This administration has doubled the initial amount they inherited to 17+ trillion, and increased social programs, so they are also responsible for a portion as well.

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Bush did sort of get the party started


Sep 13, 2018, 4:00 PM

This blind partisanship that so many Americans have (especially on Tiger Boords) is what is making things so hard to correct. You'd rather ##### about Obama vs Bush than hold congress accountable, which is where the damage is primarily coming from.

Obama and Bush both can't do much without Congress. Checks and balances. Too bad Congress is the worst stinker of them all. But let's keep arguing red vs blue, because that's real productive.

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Blind partisanship...


Jul 14, 2014, 2:48 PM

I am old enough to have lost any blind partisanship that I ever had. The national discourse that we have today is disingenuous at best, with both sides talking over each other and getting nowhere.
I don't disagree with your statement about Bush, because they lost sight and started spending like drunken sailors. And the current administration has not learned from that.
I would like to see us make our government more efficient, and weed out those who are gaming the system, and get a better percentage of each dollar to those who truly need it.

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This effing kid is in the band, trying to make it any way he


Jul 14, 2014, 3:26 PM

can. Some of you are honestly just pure $scumbags. It's one think if you don't want to contribute-- that's fine-- it's another when you go spouting off with your racist, xenophobic rants. Get a life. Not everyone was born with a silver spoon in their mouth, lucky enough to be born in this country, but not lucky enough to be mouth breathing idiots, probably thanks to your mouth breathing parents that raised your dumb a$$ses. Now, please spare us your ignorant opinions, we're all dumber for reading them.

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Re: This effing kid is in the band, trying to make it any way he


Jul 14, 2014, 4:35 PM

Si Senor,why don't you go live in Mehico? You piece
of loud mouthed trash talk.

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Re: This effing kid is in the band, trying to make it any way he


Jul 14, 2014, 5:05 PM

Irmo,

Stupidity is genetic, sorry you got the raw end of that deal.

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You are somewhat right


Jul 14, 2014, 5:50 PM

People can't help being stupid. However, people can help being ignorant. Irmo and Exyankee have made a conscious decision to be ignorant.

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Jul 14, 2014, 6:12 PM [ in reply to Re: This effing kid is in the band, trying to make it any way he ]

So you are the stupid police.Well maybe you should
put the cuffs on yourself.My hat is off to anyone
who trys to make it but he sounds like a begger to me.
He can go back to central America ,go to school on
their dime.

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Wow


Jul 14, 2014, 6:15 PM

Just when you think Irmo has hit bottom. He pulls out the dynamite and lets it rip. Keep going Irmo, China is down there somewhere.

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Yay! Then there were 3 idiots!! do we have another?!?!


Jul 14, 2014, 5:38 PM [ in reply to This effing kid is in the band, trying to make it any way he ]

n/m

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Ahhhh.....


Jul 14, 2014, 5:45 PM

Sometimes you just have to sigh when you you're dealing with simplicity... Especially the simpletons that respond to their own dumb posts three times in a row and have a 54% pulse.

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The government no longer fears its citizens


Jul 14, 2014, 3:26 PM [ in reply to Blind partisanship... ]

This probably has to get worse before it'll get any better, unfortunately. But, as we've seen, it takes a lot to get our fat, complacent American ##### off our couches and into the streets.

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Re: Blind partisanship...


Jul 15, 2014, 8:19 AM [ in reply to Blind partisanship... ]

Hey bookstore i take offence to your comment(not really) but as a drunken sailor we at least stop spending money when we run out!!!! But i like your comment.

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Trying to reason with this idiot and that "Drew" whatever is


Jul 14, 2014, 5:36 PM [ in reply to Which President started this deficit by carrying out two... ]

like wrestling with a pig in mud. Nobody wins and the pig likes it.

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Yea, you DO seem to "like it"... SUS.***


Jul 14, 2014, 6:22 PM



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Are you making a pass at me


Jul 14, 2014, 6:29 PM [ in reply to Trying to reason with this idiot and that "Drew" whatever is ]

I have a strict no yankee policy.

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