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Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 5:11 PM
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In case you didn't see, center Jay Guillermo is out for a few days with a concussion and a nasty gash under his eye. In practice on Friday, Guillermo and DT Scott Pagano had a heated exchange, and what I heard happened was from someone who was there, and it was comical....
"So Jay and Scott got into it, and Pagano ripped Jay's helmet off. And then in the same motion Pagano did a Samoan hook and wham!! came right now in Jay's face. It was nasty."
I talked to Tyrone Crowder, and he laughed about it. He said he didn't see it, just saw Guillermo's helmet fly and then heard Jay yelling. Crowder and Pagano are roommates, and he said all is good. Just early camp tension
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Orange Blooded [2111]
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Pagano
Aug 8, 2016, 5:19 PM
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is going to be one tough mutha
I'm excited to see him play this season.
Jay is going to be the best C in the nation. After blocking those guys in practice he could be easily be a 2nd round pick or better.
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Re: Pagano
Aug 8, 2016, 5:41 PM
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Pretty much self preservation 101...
Never pick a fight with a Somoan.
I played Rugby with a group of them once upon a time and they are some tough cookies.
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Re: Pagano
Aug 8, 2016, 5:54 PM
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While he looks like a Native Pacific Islander he said in an article last season he was actually part African American and part Itallian.
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Nothing about him is Samoan
Aug 8, 2016, 6:05 PM
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He is Italian.
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Italians are the toughest, meanest Samoans of all.***
Aug 8, 2016, 6:41 PM
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Even Paganollele is going to laugh at that one!***
Aug 8, 2016, 8:39 PM
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Re: I heard he is 50/50
Aug 8, 2016, 10:55 PM
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You win the internets for the day! LOL
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If he ain't 110%, he better not touch our #### rock!!***
Aug 10, 2016, 1:18 AM
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Dabo to respond per next interview.....***
Aug 8, 2016, 5:20 PM
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 6:16 PM
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Hold up on that car wash Scott. The Plains dude. The Plains. Let it all out down there.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 8:50 PM
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I made my best friends out if strangers I fought.
Aug 8, 2016, 6:29 PM
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Guys like to get rid of tension and get all the social crap out of the way. I predict these guys will be best of friends, henceforth.
Message was edited by: ClemsonTiger1988®
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The "Hawaiian Sling" -***
Aug 8, 2016, 6:46 PM
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What would you say if that cheap shot was to Watson's face?***
Aug 8, 2016, 7:41 PM
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Re: What would you say if that cheap shot was to Watson's face?***
Aug 8, 2016, 7:54 PM
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Duck?
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Good one!***
Aug 8, 2016, 8:19 PM
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It was a cheap shot because, seriously,
Aug 8, 2016, 8:44 PM
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who could defend such a thing?
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Could defend what? Gettting in a fight? At football practice***
Aug 8, 2016, 8:57 PM
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A Samoan hook....Chuck Norris couldn't defend
Aug 8, 2016, 10:06 PM
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that's not even fair.
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Okay. I was afraid you were against getting after it!***
Aug 8, 2016, 11:12 PM
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I don't mind a little tussle. Bring'em on!!
Aug 9, 2016, 12:11 AM
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Allbarn won't be ready. We'll be a mean bunch come September.
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whathever happenths happenths.... *correction.
Aug 11, 2016, 8:47 AM
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I got your back.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 8:04 PM
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Hope it's all over. Now's the time to channel it to Aubie.
Can't help but remember the old NWA Samoans such as Jimmy "Superfly" Snooka. Those are some tough dudes
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 9:00 PM
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Well that sucks...I know tensions boil over in camp, but we've lost our starting center for probably a week or so because of a fight? Hopefully this doesn't have any kind of lasting effect.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 9:04 PM
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I hope the concussion was not a result of the fight. Has it been confirmed? Will he really be out a week? Any time away from pratice because of a fight is not cool. Both need to get their head on straight.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 10:13 PM
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Well I'd assume the two are related. I would expect him out for a week or maybe even two if he does in fact have a concussion.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 9:02 PM
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Absolutely STUPID! I appreciate the intensity, but there is no justification for punching a teammate in the face, especially to the point of giving your teammate a concussion by punch him. Concussions can come easier the more you get and can be carrier ending, plus it takes away practice time for the starting center.
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Samoan lives matter.***
Aug 8, 2016, 9:02 PM
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Not funny. Don't need self-inflicted injuries***
Aug 8, 2016, 9:42 PM
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 10:15 PM
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I'm surprised Hood is making light of this. Of our starting center is out for a week because he got punched by a teammate, that's not really funny. It's bad for the team. Bad is not funny. Unless it's SC. Then it's funny.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 8, 2016, 10:16 PM
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> I'm surprised Hood is making light of this. Of our
> starting center is out for a week because he got
> punched by a teammate, that's not really funny. It's
> bad for the team. Bad is not funny. Unless it's SC.
> Then it's funny.
*if
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if what?***
Aug 8, 2016, 10:17 PM
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Re: if what?***
Aug 8, 2016, 10:27 PM
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Typo. I meant to type "if", not "of". Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2016, 10:13 AM
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That, or maybe he doesn't see the humor in our starting center having a concussion a few weeks before the season begins.
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h yeah concussions and eye gases from teammates
Aug 8, 2016, 10:17 PM
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endangering their seasons. sounds really hilarious
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Are there any real men left?***
Aug 8, 2016, 10:19 PM
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real men clock teammates
Aug 8, 2016, 10:22 PM
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and give them concussions!
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Maybe, but I'm sure that real men don't cry about other men
Aug 8, 2016, 10:29 PM
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fighting, on a message bored.
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What if it was allergies? My eyes get watery with allergies.
Aug 9, 2016, 1:00 PM
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Are you making fun of my allergies? Are you an anti-allergite?
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Re: Let me guess
Aug 9, 2016, 10:03 AM
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Fights happen in football camp. Always have always will. Grown men working their a$$ off are going to get mad at one another every now and then. Tennis is too proper to know this.
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Re: h yeah concussions and eye gases from teammates
Aug 9, 2016, 10:24 AM
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Stick to your non contact sports like tennis just the t_i_p.
You obviously can't fathom the physical nature/mentality of playing in the trenches....
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Phrasing!
Aug 8, 2016, 10:22 PM
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He "came right now in Jay's face"? This is how rumors start David Hood.
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I blame recruiting
Aug 8, 2016, 11:06 PM
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We need a thug center who'll hid brass knuckles in his jock strap.
maybe hood could write an article about it.
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I wonder if there was a penalty and ejacualtion***
Aug 9, 2016, 7:08 AM
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2016, 7:33 AM
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funny story david. when my son was a senior at york years ago we were at camp at wingate. 8 teams there. hot as he!!. york was scrimmaging mighty summerville. york was very good but way outmanned and outnumbered by summerville. it was the 2nd time in a row york had been on field. no breaks. york ran one play, then came back to the huddle. oline coach looks at my sons buddy and says " start a fight" after this play. he did, and it was on. very nice "football" brawl. was told afterwards it was planned. i just laughed. nothing wrong with the guys mixing it up. after the fight, the 2 teams went after it hard and was a good scrimmage.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2016, 9:44 AM
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I still remember Pagano's highlight tape. He drug a kid a couple yards by his face mask after making a tackle. He's gotta mean streak in him...
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Thanks dhood & it appears Tigernet camp is heating...
Aug 9, 2016, 10:45 AM
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up as well.
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Why didn't we ever do that to Steve Tanneyhill?***
Aug 9, 2016, 1:33 PM
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It is part of the uniform, but that's pretty tasteless, guy.
Aug 9, 2016, 1:56 PM
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Spit-balling here of course, but maybe some of the girls in this thread should go out this weekend, throw back a few coca-colas, lighten up and get some dick? It couldn't hurt.
My goodness, it's football and just one of the reasons girls don't play the game. Our starting right guard shrugged it off and laughed about it, maybe some here should as well.
Still shaking it.
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Re: It is part of the uniform, but that's pretty tasteless, guy.
Aug 9, 2016, 2:27 PM
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Sorry.....I can't help but not think it is funny when our starting center is out with a concussion because of a fight. For me, it is about Jay getting the pratice time in. There is so little time for them to prepare. I wonder if Jay is laughing about not being able to pratice?
As for my personal life, not your business but I dont need anymore Coca-Cola. I'm all set. Thanks!
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I imagine Jay & Scott have kissed, then made up.
Aug 9, 2016, 2:33 PM
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No one is celebrating a concussion or injured player, but we realize shit happens in the heat of the moment & big Tye Crowder describing the commotion is a smile-wide moment for those of us that have been there and done that.
It's a booboo in the great scheme of things. Jay G. is probably the number one center in the nation. He doesn't need the reps & the passion demostrated is far greater than the ouchie. Also, Justin Falconelli getting 1st team snaps is doctor-ordered type of good and will go a long way to making the team better & deeper.
As for the coca-colas, I'm glad you know your limit - some folks do not.
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Re: I imagine Jay & Scott have kissed, then made up.
Aug 9, 2016, 2:38 PM
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I'm personally glad we've got 2 mean motherphuckers that aren't scared to mix it up. That's what I love to see along both lines.
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As do the coaches, make no mistake for those that might
Aug 9, 2016, 2:44 PM
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not know or understand.
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I'm sure he knows that and in 40+ years of watching Clemson
Aug 9, 2016, 3:10 PM
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football, Brenston Buckner & Isaiah Battle are the only two I know that have crossed that line.
The helmet grabs, swings and fights in practice probably number in the ~thousands in that time.
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Duane Coleman wasn't afraid to check a chin...then there was
Aug 10, 2016, 1:09 AM
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the 04 SCU game...I could name closer to a dozen
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Duane Coleman? And the '04 South Carolina game was
Aug 10, 2016, 1:22 AM
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a game & season ending brawl - clemson not allowed to entertain a bowl. That was South Carolina getting their arses kicked and fighting back the only way they had left.
The two instances resulted in player ejections.
Did Duane get kicked out of a game? Who else?
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Re: you know if they do this in a game to an
Aug 9, 2016, 3:16 PM
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OMG Really?? I've only played football for the majority of my life and have been an avid fan for even longer and yet I had no idea that would happen.....
As long as they don't pull an Isaiah Battle I'm OK with a little extracurricular activity.
Also, You do realize that there's a big difference between gameday and grinding it out in practice in hellaciously hot weather right?
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Re: I imagine Jay & Scott have kissed, then made up.
Aug 9, 2016, 2:50 PM
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I look to CDS for guidance. If he ain't mad about it, neither am I.
I'm guessing you weren't referring to girls in the "natural" sense though --- and by natural, I mean how you feel on the inside.
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You're smarter than most and that's why you're counted...
Aug 9, 2016, 2:55 PM
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among my favorites. I'd tip my hat if I wore one.
For some of the others, that's my yes to 3T's question and the why it was in italics.
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mmhm and go tigers...
Aug 9, 2016, 2:55 PM
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hopefully that's a 2nd thing on which we agree?
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Re: It is part of the uniform, but that's pretty tasteless, guy.
Aug 9, 2016, 5:12 PM
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Jay's ready to go. You are failing to recognize that this altercation has allowed Falcinelli to get some valuable reps in case our center should go down for real in the future.
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Re: It is part of the uniform, but that's pretty tasteless, guy.
Aug 9, 2016, 5:26 PM
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Nope....I do not fail to realize it. I watched his interview where he discussed it. But based on what I have read about Dabo's practices, he would be getting the reps anyways. No?
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Someone has to take Jay's reps, right now it appears Justin
Aug 9, 2016, 9:30 PM
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Falc is that person. If Jay was there, Jay would be getting those reps, no?
You seem to be circling the wagons at this point, which is a fine defensive position when left no other out. It's fine if people don't like fighting or are upset over a player being injured - no one I've seen is being whimsical about Jay's protocol time out. Fighting is going to happen and when fighting happens, things sometimes go wrong. We have 115ish players and it's a perfect opportunity for next man up, since you invoked Dabo Swinney.
Justin right now is the next man up and apparently was in on Gallman's long run[would have been Jay] or so Coach Elliott said. Good for Justin.
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Re: Someone has to take Jay's reps, right now it appears Justin
Aug 10, 2016, 12:18 AM
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Ok...I understand that someone has to take Jay's reps. But it was my understanding that Dabo conducted pratice in a way that cycled in and out 3 different "teams". So, does Justin get all of Jay's reps plus the ones he would have gotten anyways?
I feel little need to defend my position. I had a question....the question being....will he really get more reps? Or does he change teams and play with the good on good as they seem to have termed it? Or is fall pratice conducted differently?
At this point I was more curious and my question had little to do with the fight.
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I have zero idea if Justin is manning all the 1 & 2 snaps,
Aug 10, 2016, 12:50 AM
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but Justin is running with the 1s, which means he's running with the best and versus the best - good on good.
That is a good thing.
This time last year, Ryan Norton was our starting center until he went down early in the season. I'm glad we had a battle tested back-up and any chance our backup has to run with the 1s is bueno, just as Justin is now doing. Things happen.
As for the other, if there are 100 snaps to go around and Jay was to man 34 of those, Justin 33[2nd Team] and ~Gabe Cerv[or other] the remaining 33, then someone is soaking Jay's 34 along the line. Next man up involves the entirety of the depth chart and those further down will need to take up slack with one fewer person to do so. Who/Whom that person(s) might be, I'm not sure or particularly care - practice will go on.
And at this point I have little notion of what you're doing, but circling seemed the nicest, least offensive or invasive way of putting it?
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Re: I have zero idea if Justin is manning all the 1 & 2 snaps,
Aug 10, 2016, 1:03 AM
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Agree that being on the good on good team is a good thing for him. I just don't know if it means he gets more reps like the poster I was replying to said.
I am officially done circling this topic with you. Been fun.
As for offensive, you managed that with your di....Coca-Cola comment.
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Well, it wasn't intended for "you" as 3Ts was kind enough to
Aug 10, 2016, 1:11 AM
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point out, but I knew collateral damage was a real possibility - still, I give that post 10/10 and will do it again.
As for the other poster, he said, has allowed Falcinelli to get some valuable reps in case our center should go down for real in the future. Nothing in that quote says Justin gets more, but maybe that was his intent? - I'm not speaking for him.
What I see is him saying Justin is getting reps with the 1s[valuable, like diamonds & platinum], which is Jay's spot and where Justin will be should Jay go down "for real".
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Re: Well, it wasn't intended for "you" as 3Ts was kind enough to
Aug 10, 2016, 1:18 AM
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You are right....that is what he said and I misinterpreted it.
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Idk, you might be right, but most importantly, you have a
Aug 10, 2016, 1:23 AM
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wonderful night.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2016, 12:30 PM
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Can someone explain how this is funny?
Aug 9, 2016, 12:39 PM
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I understand fights happens... but putting a teammate out for a week with a concussion?! Thats not funny, its stupid! Im sure Jay and his family find this all real funny...
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Can someone explain how this is funny?
Aug 9, 2016, 12:39 PM
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I understand fights happens... but putting a teammate out for a week with a concussion?! Thats not funny, its stupid! Im sure Jay and his family find this all real funny...
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2016, 12:45 PM
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Must have got some pointers from Isaiah Battle
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This is pretty tasteless. Between the lack of moderating
Aug 9, 2016, 12:49 PM
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on the boards (looking at you, RAG) and the countless grammatical errors in the articles, I'll have to keep snippets like this in mind when it comes time to renew my membership.
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Re: This is pretty tasteless. Between the lack of moderating
Aug 9, 2016, 12:54 PM
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"You just got knocked the f@@k out!!!"
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Re: This is pretty tasteless. Between the lack of moderating
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I'll only listen to any of you who actually put up money for this site. I've been doing it for years and I won't continue and tell others not to if I feel like it. The fact that my posts got deleted in the Clemson/Auburn announcers thread just for pointing out an error (which was later corrected) doesn't really make me think differently.
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Re: I wonder how crump will get by without your $5/ mo donation.***
Aug 9, 2016, 8:45 PM
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@crump what do you think?
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All you candy a$$3$ saying this is bad need
Aug 9, 2016, 3:03 PM
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To get a pair. It's football. It's August. It's hot. It's intense. It's not a cheap shot it's football. Yes they got in a little scuffle. I'm happy about that. These guys are keyed in they are intense they are pushing one another and things will happen. If it was a bad situations the coaches would've handled it so lighten up you bunch of pu$$13$. It's football and if you don't like tough hardnosed ball players you never played he game
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eek! we need a Safe Space in the new building!
Aug 9, 2016, 9:55 PM
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call in a change order........
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 10, 2016, 12:29 AM
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Hate to interrupt your little squabble over reps, lol, but has Dabo formally addressed anything regarding this situation? I'm surprised someone hasn't asked him about it directly since last Friday.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 10, 2016, 12:40 AM
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During the Coach Elliott interview today, he was asked about it. He said to ask Dabo. All I have heard anyone ask Dabo is when Jay would be back. He said that he did not know when exactly. He made a joke saying he will be back before the Auburn game.
That is all I have seen so far.
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 10, 2016, 12:51 AM
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Thank ya dear!
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Re: Funny stuff on the Guillermo/Pagano fisticuffs
Aug 10, 2016, 12:42 AM
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If anything, thanks for posting this DH. Hope whatever happened its squashed. Hope it's settled. Boys will be boys. Leave it on the field.
I also hope that Pagano can save some of his fisticuffs for his time after Clemson.
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Pagano isn't Samoan. *******
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