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Evan made me post this.....long
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Jul 20, 2019, 2:12 PM

He Fights .


by Evan Sayet


My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #Never Trumpers) constantly ask me if I'm not bothered by Donald Trump's lack of decorum.


They ask if I don't think his tweets are "beneath the dignity of the office." Here's my answer: We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.

We tried propriety: has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney? And the results were always the same.


This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.


I don't find anything "dignified," "collegial" or "proper" about Barack Hussain Obama's lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party.


I don't see anything "dignified" in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I don't see anything "statesman-like" in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was "articulate" and "polished" but in no way was he in the least bit "dignified," "collegial" or "proper."


The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the '60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It has been a war they've fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one and the violent take-over of the universities till today.


The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety. With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America 's first wartime president in the Culture War.


During wartime, things like "dignity" and "collegiality" simply aren't the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming.


Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, "I cannot spare this man.He fights . .."


General George Patton was a vulgar-talking, son-of-a-bitch. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.


Trump is fighting . And what's particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel's, he's shouting, "You magnificent #######, I read your book!" That is just the icing on the cake, but it's wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, but he's defeating the Left using their own tactics and that's what they really hate.

That book is Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals a book so essential to the Liberals' war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton's senior thesis . It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted.


Trump's tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after "the fake media"-- and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri, Trump isolated CNN. He made it personal.


Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as "the most powerful weapon of all" ...Most importantly, Trump's tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. ... They need to respond. This leaves them with only two choices. They can either "go high" (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The problem for CNN (et al) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve.


It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive. Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama's close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright's church. Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration's weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration's cover-up.


So, to my friends on the Left and the #Never Trumpers as well do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be "collegial" and "dignified" and "proper"? Of course, I do. These aren't those times. This is war. And it's a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years.


So, say anything you want about this president -- I get it -- he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don't care. I can’t spare this warrior. He fights for America! Fight on , you magnificent #######!

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Re: Evan made me post this.....long


Jul 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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You may


Jul 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

KMA!

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Re: You may


Jul 20, 2019, 3:38 PM

sometimes I swear you are 15 years old

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I'll need to verify that you are my type first.


Jul 20, 2019, 3:38 PM [ in reply to You may ]

It might happen.

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Xcuse moi***


Jul 20, 2019, 3:47 PM [ in reply to Re: Evan made me post this.....long ]



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Re: Evan made me post this.....long


Jul 20, 2019, 5:08 PM [ in reply to Re: Evan made me post this.....long ]

He is an idiot. You add that the he is senile and he is a mess.

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Yet you refused to acknowledge the truth


Jul 21, 2019, 8:17 AM

Of the Democratic Party change since the 60s, as the thread originator stated.

-Doc

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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


Re: Evan made me post this.....long


Jul 20, 2019, 4:29 PM

"We Right-thinking people have tried dignity."

A. No, that group has never tried dignity.

B. What naive, gullible person still thinks Trump is a conservative? Really, you're a complete duped idiot at this point if you believe it.

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You are the meme master. - RPMcMurphy®

Trump is not a phony. - RememberTheDanny


This is a poorly conceived piece....


Jul 20, 2019, 5:35 PM

Trump isn't "fighting for America"...he is fighting to preserve his power and feed his ego. Nothing else. He does not have any real political or governmental beliefs. He's not the least bit conservative. Sure he nominates conservative judges, because someone told him who was conservative and what would feed the people that voted for him. That's not in itself bad, but no one truly believes that Trump could even define what being conservative means on his own.

He isn't a war time president....He's just an #### with followers willing to justify his behavior and suppose his intent well beyond his capabilities.

Sure he's fighting the democrats, but not with ideas...not by persuading people to his philosophy...but by calling childish names and making outlandish statements that in any other time his supporters would find disgusting, not to mention idiotic.

Just think...the youth of today think Trump is the face of political conservatism. Yeah, that's going to do wonders for the GOP in 20 yrs.

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he is also rewarding the donor class


Jul 20, 2019, 5:49 PM

with lavish gifts while he stabs average Americans in the back. His ability to convince the working class that he fighting for them is a world class work of manipulation, I mean he is quite gifted in that way.

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I do not agree with that***


Jul 20, 2019, 7:31 PM



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Re: I do not agree with that***


Jul 21, 2019, 9:27 AM

list five things he has done to help working class Americans while in office.

I'll hang up and listen

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Flower, you are indeed


Jul 21, 2019, 8:19 AM [ in reply to he is also rewarding the donor class ]

full ofshit. Not just because you are planted in it.

-DNT

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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


There are two basic differences between Trump and every...


Jul 21, 2019, 9:51 AM [ in reply to This is a poorly conceived piece.... ]

other president in my life that isn't named Jimmy Carter. Trump is rude, base and a typical NYC yankee and he is making decisions for the country than every single one of them including Jimmy Carter.

You seem to be confused that his motive is different than the motives of the others who aren't named Jimmy Carter. Somehow you believe that none of our other presidents who never fought for their political lives.

You also assume that people he pleases with this economy give a chit why he promoted it. A long time ago I said his motivation was pure greed. Since much of his money is invested in real estate a good economy is a raise to his worth when the economy is rolling and value of real property increase. SO?

You seem to think Americans give a chit why he nominated judges who are respectful of the constitution. Somebody told him to do it. How does 'someone told me to do it,' work when a cop pulls you over for speeding? It's as if no politician ever took advise on what or which position to take.

He worked the same process as every POTUS works to get seat a SCOTUS nominee. He checked with his advisers then talked to Senators in his party to see if they would agree to the nomination. Saying someone told him to do it is far beneath your intellect.

I have no allegiance to the GOP. None, no more than the DNC. A turd is a turd even if it's been washed, buffed and waxed to a high gloss. I like the results of what Trump has done and though I don't support many of his habits the results of his administration is sufficient to get my support.

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That’s dumb. Romney would have beaten Hillary also


Jul 20, 2019, 10:55 PM

and Trump would have lost to Obama.

The guy acts like a Republican has to be a narrow minded scumbag who insults war heroes and candidates’ wives to win.

Dubya had dignity, was presidential, and won twice.

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