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When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 11:04 AM
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Joe and the Radical left want to
1) Abolish ICE
2) Eliminate the DEA
3) Pay reparations to descendants of slaves
4) Defund the police
5) Allow prisoners to vote while in jail
6) Pay reparations for victims of police brutality
7) Release the names of police involved in deadly force
8) Eliminate lawful police surveillance locating devices similar to cell phone towers
9) Raise your taxes
10) Open our borders
11) Pass more regulations that slow the economy
12) Install socialized medicine
13) Raise unemployment numbers, especially for minorities
14) Perpetuate sanctuary cities
15) Take your guns away
16) Give free health care to illegal immigrants (in return for votes, of course)
17) Pay reparations to descendants of slaves
18) Tell you how to think and talk
19) Radicalize education/ refuse to reach REAL history
20) Kill innocent unborn children (PP)
21) Have one bathroom for girls and boys
22) Give you a list of 'racist' words that you can't use
23) Forgive all student loans
24) Kiss China's butt..
25) Continue to oppose Israel
26) Continue to stir racial division and keep blacks suppressed and oppressed
27) Pack the courts with radical leftist judges
28) Shove faux climate change scenarios down our throats
29) Spy on Americans a l'Obama
30) Weaponize the intelligence agencies
31) Bury the corruption of Obama and his crime spree administration
32) Continue the degradation of Democrat run cities
33) Continue to look the other way from the systemic massacre of black men and women
34) Do nothing to address black on black killing
35) Allow biological men to compete against women
36) Promote no bail for serious crimes
37) Defund our military
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IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT?
VOTE REPUBLICAN AND SAVE OUR COUNTRY
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 11:06 AM
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God, you are just dumb.
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 11:41 AM
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Your response suggests I nailed it, and your DENIAL is woke!! Apologies for bringing facts, logic and common sense to you!
What on my list is NOT true!? Name something the lefties are NOT discussing....fair enough? Try harder; you're not making much sense these days. I this a lot on the left.
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 2:01 PM
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When I saw you replied, couldn’t wait to read it lol
Really SOME are a reach? You think? Lol
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 2:04 PM
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 2:25 PM
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Ur good! Almost took the bait... rabbit hole avoided.
Can we just skip to separating the country again? Which states you want again?
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 2:29 PM
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 2:45 PM
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Ah now I smell what you cookin, and I see your point a little clearer.
I’ve said before that I don’t agree with everything any person is selling 100% dem or pub (but I lean dem of course) I actually consider myself a middle of the road dem... not a far left Bernie type, believe it or not. What seems to get lost in the weeds often is that “ a dem proposed” or a “pub proposed” just coz some loon on either side proposed something does not make it an actual policy that will ever happen
There just to be some compromise in politics that if on sensible issues, both sides walked away feeling they left something on the table it was good. Now pubs have made compromise a dirty word.
Lastly we all have access to news, net, sites of all sorts. Nobody is responsible for challenging each and every flame throwing nonsense that someone decides to post. My example in another thread is when dems say pubs want dirty air and water. It’s not true. There are some pub policies that result in some of that... but largely it’s not true, coz pubs have to breathe and drink water too. It’s a way of demonizing to other side so now it’s not that we need a different
policy or changes somehow, but they are bad people that want the worst for the country yada yada
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 2:50 PM
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 3:17 PM
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some of these i'm not super familiar with, or who proposed... and i'm not gonna look it up lol
4. of course... talked enough about that. i'm sure you'd agree
5. not overly familiar with that one, as I've heard it its to allow ex prisoners to vote, parolees, etc. i'm not for voting while incarcerated , but once free voting rights should be reinstated
6. I think the courts should handle this or police depts/cities (settlements)
7. through the freedom of information act
12. would need to know more details on that. I do think the US medical system needs an overhaul. my only problem with Obama Care is it didnt go far enough
*15 IS A JOKE
17 and 3 are duplicates...maybe thats how bad someone wants it lol
18 is another joke
20. I am pro choice
21. many countries have had unisex bathrooms/locker rooms for years and years without issue. I dont have an issue 1 way or the other with that one
22.& 24 lol
27. unlike the right packing the court with conservative judges
28. I believe in climate change
33 & 34... what do you purpose
35. is dumb
36. bail doesn’t work like that. judges come up with bail based on many things like potential flight risk, etc
37. former navy guy here. love the military that I spent 8 (1 war) yrs in. however our military budget is bloated. the US military spends more than the next 8-9 countries combined
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that's a lot to think about***
Jul 9, 2020, 11:16 AM
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Re: that's a lot to think about***
Jul 9, 2020, 12:36 PM
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Not really,,,its constitutional vs. chaos a la democrats....easy choice, eh?
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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now you're confusing me...
Jul 9, 2020, 1:10 PM
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I'm voting pub, but you told me to think about it and now you're telling me there is nothing to think about.
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 11:20 AM
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BOTH OPTIONS SUCK. AGAIN.
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 11:31 AM
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Kanye 2020!!
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Oculus Spirit [97714]
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All three options suck then.***
Jul 9, 2020, 11:35 AM
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 11:59 AM
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39) Eat babies
40) 80% tax on garage sales
41) Require everyone to become Muslim
42) Reanimate Joseph Stalin
43) Remove all stars and white stripes from American flag, add hammer and sickle.
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Standout [347]
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People like you make me wish there was a mental capacity
Jul 9, 2020, 12:03 PM
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test to be able to vote.
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Re: People like you make me wish there was a mental capacity
Jul 9, 2020, 1:21 PM
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I agree. I was Phi Beta Kappa and graduated from medical school with honors. And you...or should I guess, based your posts!!? LMAO.
Logic, common sense and facts seem to constantly elude the left, which helps to explain their bizarre behavior and support of a radical democrat agenda a la Joementia!!
Seriously, do any of you self-described Trump haters think that Joe is all together and capable of performing the duties of the presidency? Skip the childish come backs, they undermine your credibility and intelligence.
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Re: People like you make me wish there was a mental capacity
Jul 9, 2020, 1:37 PM
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If that is true, you are basically Rain Man.
Your people skills seem...off.
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Re: People like you make me wish there was a mental capacity
Jul 9, 2020, 10:11 PM
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It's not true. This ding dong is posting emails from his Uncle Cletus.
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Well now that you say it like that
Jul 9, 2020, 12:03 PM
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I'm oh so very scared. I'm honestly surprised you showed some restraint and didn't add that the evil Democrats want to make being white illegal or that they want to require pineapple on pizza.
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 12:04 PM
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Biden gets my vote. Most everything you wrote is just hype.
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Oculus Spirit [81896]
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He wrote in all caps, that means he's serious.***
Jul 9, 2020, 12:05 PM
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CU Guru [1315]
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 12:06 PM
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 12:07 PM
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What does the government have to do with who competes in sports?
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 12:09 PM
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Didn't Trump complain to China saying the Democrats are too hard on both of them?
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LOL - I will vote for Biden because I am intelligent enough
Jul 9, 2020, 12:25 PM
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to read his real positions on issues. Trump is completely about Trump and cannot articulate any agenda except to illicit fear among scared old white men.
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Oculus Spirit [93667]
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Biden has no position.
Jul 10, 2020, 6:46 AM
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Bernie, AOC and Omar are giving Biden his position right now. You should know what you're voting for in a couple weeks.
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 12:52 PM
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jeez didn't you post this nonsense already? or was that some of other posters skeerd as hell posts?
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 1:24 PM
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Lefties need a lot of repeating....their brains are resistant to facts and logic. You're welcome. Keep reading my posts....it will eventually sink in...
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 1:43 PM
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It’s good to know it’s not the dementia acting up. I’ll def keep reading. It’s pretty funny
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FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: When you get ready
Jul 9, 2020, 2:07 PM
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How do I Forward this Forward? I want everyone in my Contacts to know about this
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I'm about as conservative/GOP as they come...
Jul 9, 2020, 2:38 PM
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I won't be voting for Trump and your post is BS.
HTH
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Re: I'm about as conservative/GOP as they come...
Jul 10, 2020, 8:31 AM
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All-In [31890]
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Well...that would be consistent for you...
Jul 10, 2020, 9:13 AM
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consistently wrong.
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All-TigerNet [13360]
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I believe you won’t vote for Trump... not the conservative
Jul 10, 2020, 4:22 PM
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Part.
Who did you vote for in the primaries in 16?
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All-In [31890]
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Lived in GA at the time and voted for Rubio...
Jul 10, 2020, 5:41 PM
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I liked Kasich alot, but I can't remember why I didn't vote for him. He may not have been polling very high at the time and Rubio was my 2nd choice and best chance to beat Trump at the time.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Lived in GA at the time and voted for Rubio...
Jul 10, 2020, 5:44 PM
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Oh God I would take either one of them....
Jul 10, 2020, 8:02 PM
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in a minute over the fiasco we have in the WH now.
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CU Guru [1315]
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Re: I'm about as conservative/GOP as they come...
Jul 10, 2020, 11:47 AM
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Your response suggests I nailed it and hit your denial nerve !! Made my day! Hey, if you want to shoot yourself in the foot, that's up to you. I'll just LMAO st your ignorance.
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Well yeah...when you post something that stupid...
Jul 10, 2020, 12:15 PM
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you get a rise out of smart people. I'm not sure why that gives you pleasure, but go for it.
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CU Guru [1315]
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Re: When you get ready to vote on November 3rd, think about this
Jul 9, 2020, 8:54 PM
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Thanks you all--not one valid argument against ANY of my statements. Many seem to be behind the news cycles, which is surprising. None of them deserve an LOL. Please re-read the list, this time with real scrutiny.
I do note that Carlsbad has committed to hurting himself with his vote. No surprise there, but I do think he will remember my post on Nov. 3 and do what's best for him and his family. I'm not giving up on him. Good man, just confused.
Hey, I have a colleague who is a good shrink and specializes in helping those in DENIAL!!
Pick one to debate and I will gladly refute your claim...with facts...
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Ok now I’m convinced, this is definitely a parody account
Jul 9, 2020, 9:03 PM
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run by a Dem to mock Trump supporters.
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Re: Ok now I’m convinced, this is definitely a parody account
Jul 9, 2020, 9:10 PM
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The original Poster is very much correct as to what May happen
Jul 9, 2020, 9:50 PM
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if Dems (which includes Leftists & Socialists) get in power. You’d have to be hiding in the closet from Covid19 not to see & understand it!
But, my problem is 4 more years of Trump, whom I voted for since I knew he’d rag the Dems, Chinese & whoever hatred America.
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Re: The original Poster is very much correct as to what May happen
Jul 10, 2020, 6:52 AM
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Yeah, he's got the libs good and stirred up, Bill.
Look out your window, you'll see plenty of them marching outside as we speak.
Job well done...and that's kind of what happens when you "trigger" more than half the country for almost four years. They get excited-like.
Cause. Effect.
But keep on keeping on, I'm sure it'll turn out different next term.
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'The debil made me do it?'
Jul 10, 2020, 7:41 AM
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When in your life has blaming your bad behavior on someone else worked? I question your upbringing.
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Re: 'The debil made me do it?'
Jul 10, 2020, 8:43 AM
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I don't think quozzel is talking about "bad behavior." He's talking about protesters. Surely you aren't suggesting protesting equals "bad behavior."
And yes, the point of protesting is to stand up against something bad. So "the debil" is why they're doing it.
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Oculus Spirit [93667]
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What protest?
Jul 10, 2020, 9:05 AM
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When do protest leave a wake of destruction in their path?
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Re: What protest?
Jul 10, 2020, 9:15 AM
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You are just thick, man. How do you not understand that when you make somebody mad for long enough, they act out?
Have you ever been married, man? If so...did it work out? Because just ignoring it when you're enraging them is a really good way to a sad and very ugly end.
Protests and social unrest are a red-flag sign of unresponsive governance. It doesn't just come from nowhere. This is what happens when you play to your base and only your base for your entire term; the rest of the country absolutely hates you.
I don't agree with a bunch of things the BLM movement stands for or is often doing out on the street...but if you don't understand why they might be a tad miffed you live in Mayberry, you really do.
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Oculus Spirit [93667]
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You are justifying the riots and blaming them on Trump?
Jul 10, 2020, 9:38 AM
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I can't wait until the lawyers use that excuse in a court of law.
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Re: You are justifying the riots and blaming them on Trump?
Jul 10, 2020, 12:24 PM
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...and you're confirming that you indeed live in Mayberry. And are divorced.
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Quozzel referred to people marching.
Jul 10, 2020, 12:11 PM
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Are you under the impression that every protester is a violent rioter? My daughter managed to march in DC and somehow didn't break anything.
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Oculus Spirit [93667]
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That's one.***
Jul 10, 2020, 1:30 PM
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Re: That's one.***
Jul 10, 2020, 1:42 PM
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She said it was a perfectly peaceful march. So... everyone else in that march.
You seriously think most protestors are violent, don't you. You really do.
Of course, you also claimed that Trump built 400 miles of wall (nope) and that Fauci predicted 2-3 million fatalities (nope). Do you care about truth?
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Oculus Spirit [93667]
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No, I don't think all protest are violent.
Jul 10, 2020, 8:34 PM
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I think there was enough violence to overshadow the peaceful protest. Trump built 400 miles of wall. Fauci used the same number 1.5-2.5 million projected deaths that everyone else used to formulate a plan to 'flatten the curve.' Don't act like you don't remember those numbers. The high end of that projection was 2.5 which is well within the 2-3 million I stated. What's half a mil between friends?
Yes, I care much about Truth. I never intentionally deceived and if you'll remember I've apologized for more offenses, mistakes and errors here than anyone else on this forum. I appreciate you remembering that the next time you broach the subject of my honestly.
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Here, knucklehead:
"The New York Times quickly ran the hot news about this new COVID-19 estimate:
The report, which warned that an uncontrolled spread of the disease could cause as many as 510,000 deaths in Britain, triggered a sudden shift in the government’s comparatively relaxed response to the virus. American officials said the report, which projected up to 2.2 million deaths in the United States from such a spread, also influenced the White House to strengthen its measures to isolate members of the public.
A month later that 2.2 million estimate was still being used (without revealing the source) by President Trump and Doctors Fauci and Birx to imply that up to two million lives had been saved by state lockdowns and business closings and/?or by federal travel bans.
The following summary of the Ferguson/?Imperial College report provides clues about how the model came to generate such dramatic conclusions:
In the (unlikely) absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behavior, we would expect a peak in mortality (daily deaths) to occur after approximately 3 months. In such scenarios, given an estimated R0 of 2.4, we predict 81% of the G.B. and U.S. populations would be infected over the course of the epidemic… In total, in an unmitigated epidemic, we would predict approximately 510,000 deaths in G.B. and 2.2 million in the U.S., not accounting for the potential negative effects of health systems being overwhelmed on mortality.
This worst??case simulation came up with 2.2 million deaths by simply assuming that 81% of the population gets infected –268 million people– and that 0.9% of them die. It did not assume health systems would have to be overwhelmed to result in so many deaths, though it did make that prediction.
Neither the high infection rate nor the high fatality rate holds up under scrutiny.
To project that nearly everyone becomes infected the report had to assume that each person infects 2.4 others and those people, in turn, infect 2.4 others and so on, with the result that the number infected doubles roughly every four days. This 2.4 “reproduction number” (R0) was “based on … the early growth??rate of the epidemic in Wuhan.” But the reproduction number always appears highest during the early phase of an epidemic (partly due to increased testing) and has now fallen to nearly zero in China.
The reproduction number is not a constant, but a variable that depends on many other things, from humidity and sunlight to human behavior.
Suppose an infected man walks into a small elevator with three other people and begins coughing. The other three get infected from droplets in the air or from virus on objects (such as elevator buttons) they touch before touching their faces. In this case, we observe an R0 of 3.0. But if the coughing man is wearing a mask then perhaps one person does not become infected by inhaling the virus, so the R0 falls to 2.0. If the other two quickly use an alcohol??based hand sanitizer before touching their face, or wash their hands, then nobody becomes infected and the R0 falls to zero.
The worst??case Imperial College estimate of 2.2 million deaths if everyone does “nothing” did not simply mean no government lockdowns, as a March 31 White House graph with two curves implied. It meant nobody avoids crowded elevators, or wears face masks, washes their hands more often, or buys gloves or hand sanitizer. Everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger.The Ferguson team knew that was unrealistic, yet their phantasmal 2.2 million estimate depended on it. As they reticently acknowledged, “it is highly likely that there would be significant spontaneous change in population behavior even in the absence of government??mandated interventions.” An earlier February 20 brief said, “Some social distancing is to be expected, even in the absence of formal control measures.”
The obvious reality of voluntary self??protective actions makes it incorrect to allude to the extreme Ferguson death estimate, consciously or not, as evidence that heavy??handed government interventions prevented “hundreds of thousands” of deaths. In fact, the Imperial College team did not recommend “a complete lockdown which … prevents people going to work.”
The key premise of 81% of the population being infected should have raised more alarms than it did. Even the deadly “Spanish Flu” (H1N1) pandemic of 1918–19 infected no more than 28% of the U.S. population. The next H1N1 “Swine Flu” pandemic in 2009-10, infected 20-24% of Americans.
To push the percentage infected up from 20–28% to an unprecedented 81% for COVID-19 required assuming the number of cases and/?or deaths keeps doubling every three or four days for months (deaths were predicted to peak July 20). And that means assuming the estimated reproduction number (R0) of 2.4 remains high, and people keep mingling with different groups, until nearly everyone gets infected. Long before 8 out of 10 people became infected, however, a larger and larger percentage of the population would have recovered from the disease and become immune, so a smaller and smaller share would still remain susceptible.
Little more than a month after the outbreak exploded in March, COVID-19 curves are already flattening conclusively in many different countries with quite different government mitigation policies. By April 16, it was taking 60 days for the number of deaths to double in China – not 4 days. The worldwide average was up to 11 days, including 17 days in Italy, 18 days in Taiwan, and 24 in South Korea.
In short, the Imperial College projection that 81% of the U.S. population could be infected if everyone just did literally nothing to protect themselves or others is inconsistent with rational risk avoidance, history and recent experience. Even with a much smaller percentage infected, however, deaths could still end up extremely high if nearly 1% of those infected died, as the Ferguson team assumed.
The assumed 0.9% death rate (within a range of 0.4% to 1.4%) was tweaked from a smaller estimate in a study of deaths in China by Robert Verrity and others, which found a “case fatality rate” (CFR) of 1.38% among known and tested cases. By assuming that such confirmed cases underestimated actual infections by only about half, they inferred an “infection fatality rate” (IFR) of 0.66%.
Epidemiologists have since found growing evidence that the number of undetected cases with few symptoms or none is much larger than merely doubling the small number of known and tested cases. A review of such research by the Oxford University Centre for Evidence??Based Medicine finds “a presumed estimate for the COVID-19 IFR somewhere between 0.1% and 0.36%.” A middling estimate of 0.22% would by itself reduce the infamous 2.2 million death estimate to half a million even if 81% were somehow infected.
Eran Bendavid and Jay Bhattacharya of the Stanford School of Medicine, with 15 others, conducted serological tests for COVID-19 antibodies from a representative sample of 3,300 people from Santa Clara County, CA. The high percentage showing proof of having been cured of undetected asymptomatic cases indicates that between 48,000 to 81,000 people in Santa Clara county had already been infected and cured by the time they were tested on April 3–4. Those numbers are 50 to 85 times larger than the number of known, confirmed cases. They correspond to “an infection fatality rate of 0.12–0.2%” – similar to the flu (which nonetheless killed a CDC??estimated 61,000 in the 2017/18 season by infecting millions).
The Santa Clara antibody testing strongly suggests there must be sizable islands or clusters of people elsewhere in the U.S. who now have some immunity, which would substantially reduce the future risk of community spread. This is one reason any “rebound” in the fourth quarter would likely be more easily contained, even aside from the fact that we’re all much better educated, equipped and prepared if hot spots flare up in the fall. Because a newer and better Washington University IHME model ends with August 4, its low estimate of COVID-19 deaths (under 61,000 as of April 15) misses five months of 2020 and is therefore surely too optimistic for the whole year. Yet the IHME estimates will nonetheless prove enormously closer to reality than the archaic overstuffed Imperial College prediction of 2.2 million deaths.
The trouble with being too easily led by models is we can too easily be misled by models. Epidemic models may seem entirely different from economic models or climate models, but they all make terrible forecasts if filled with wrong assumptions and parameters."
https://www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths-covid-19 How One Model Simulated 2.2 Million U.S. Deaths from COVID-19 The trouble with being too easily led by models is we can too easily be misled by models. Epidemic models may seem entirely different from economic models or climate models, but they all make terrible forecasts if filled with wrong assumptions and parameters.
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I'll bite...I got all the way to #1 before calling BS....
Jul 10, 2020, 7:47 AM
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Biden does not / has not called for abolishing ICE.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/us/politics/joe-biden-immigration.html
"Despite a push on the left to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, Mr. Biden’s plan stops short of seeking that or even outlining any major restructuring of the agency. His plan says his administration would ensure that personnel at ICE, as well as at Customs and Border Protection, “abide by professional standards and are held accountable for inhumane treatment.”"
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biden-knocks-left-wing-of-democratic-party-we-shouldnt-abolish-ice
"We shouldn't abolish ICE. We should reform the system. ICE is not the problem," the former vice president told reporters Friday afternoon in Concord, New Hampshire. "The policies behind ICE are the problem, and that's easy enough to fix if the president knows what he or she is doing."
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Now ask yourself if AOC, Omar, and Bernie pass this test
Jul 10, 2020, 8:30 AM
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Because that’s who matters here.
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And why to 2 junior house members and 1 old Senator matter..
Jul 10, 2020, 8:48 AM
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here in terms of where Biden stands?
You know what really matters? Trump being such a drag on the ballot that the Senate may flip to dem control. Talk about that if you want to talk about things that matter.
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Keep up.
Jul 10, 2020, 9:08 AM
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Bernie and Joe have been in negotiations for a week now. Joe is C&Ping some of Bernie's campaign promises and most of the OP's statements are directly related to the exact language Joe is pushing.
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No it's not...see the other thread....
Jul 10, 2020, 9:10 AM
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a lot of it is from stale talking points. It's clear the tactic of the Trump campaign is going to be to paint Joe Biden as a far-left pawn. He isn't.
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Trump didn't publish that.
Jul 10, 2020, 9:43 AM
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Biden Sanders publication or can we just call it "BS," for short?
You are ignoring the obvious.
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And where does that support claims #1 and #2 of the OP?***
Jul 10, 2020, 9:53 AM
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I put the quotes and a snip picture in the other thread.
Jul 10, 2020, 9:57 AM
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Perhaps we should abandon this one.
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Re: I'll bite...I got all the way to #1 before calling BS....
Jul 10, 2020, 11:53 AM
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The House democrats, led by your favorite anarchists, AOC & Omar did indeed introduce that in the house. In case you're living under a rock, the left extremists like AOC, Omar, etc. will be calling Joementia's platform. Try harder.
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Yeah, that is BS....
Jul 10, 2020, 12:02 PM
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First, I can't stand AOC or Omar...I'm not sure who you're mistaking me for.
Second, you said Biden supported eliminating ICE...when he has clearly stated otherwise. And all you can say is because the far wing of his party has called for that then that is what he must believe or what we will get with his election? And you want ME to try harder? How about you back up the claim...directly...that Biden wants to eliminate ICE. Just one statement or real action by him to support that.
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Re: Yeah, that is BS....
Jul 10, 2020, 12:36 PM
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News Flash: my statement is valid that AOC and Omar are pushing those actions onto the platform that JOE will have to adhere too. Hence, it will be part of the Democrat stance. Slow much? Geezzz
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This is how clueless Biden is
Jul 10, 2020, 1:06 PM
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Hahahahaha:
Jul 10, 2020, 9:35 AM
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I’ll bite. and you have listed pay reparations to descendants of slaves twice. Twice the humor I guess.
If we’re talking a Biden presidency, I’ll say 6,7,9,11, and 29 may happen.
The rest are funny. Keep em coming. And once again, you are my new favorite poster.
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Re: Hahahahaha:
Jul 10, 2020, 11:58 AM
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You've been warned. You're on your own. I'm pretty sure your mother told you to stick with the winners. Don't disappoint her.....
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