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Re: Short memories ...

Mar 11, 2021, 9:40 AM

No, no, no, no.

Cops need to be nerfed as much as possible.

I mean, sure, cops do need a SWAT. They do need a business end if they've absolutely, positively gotta have one. But you want them to go rock and roll as a last resort. And sure, if they need a tank, I guess I want them to have a tank. Maybe one. I mean, hey, who knows, right?

But the average officer on the street, disposition is all-important. I want street the average street cop to be a patient guy (or formidable gal) who's a non-lethal takedown ninja, with bodycams all over him, (or her) so there's absolutely zero question who's doing what to who and when. I want him to have ten different kind of pepper sprays. I want him to have tasers that zap perps stupid but don't kill. I want him to have gummy sprays and loogey guns that affix perps to surfaces. When he's working I want him to pretty much look like a big giant Michelin Man - not just bulletproof, but basically batproof, knifeproof, tire-iron proof, what-ever proof. Messing with that police officers shouldn't just be unrewarding, it should basically be durn near impossible. And the whole time you're defying him, he's basically talking to you in this patient, you're being-an-idiot voice: "Sir, if you don't cease and desist the stupid, I'm going to loogey-gun or taser or whatever you..." And if you don't comply, well, zap, with the bodycams rolling, and it's off the drunk tank for you. Method.

Minimum fuss, minimum tuss, minimum bother. And above all else, he's a guy (or gal) who was solidly psych-screened and who's never, ever going to go kneeling with his jackboots on a perp's neck for five freaking minutes while even the civvies on the street are shrieking at him to get off the guy and he's dead there on the street. That kind of thing.

Some folks are natural protectors. Some people are natural aggressors. You do not make the second type cops. Start with that, and then equip and train them accordingly.

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You are delusional if you think otherwise.

Lots of talk about "Hey...what we really meant was that there are certain things that police might not be best equipped to handle, like emotional distress..."

Non-sense. A complete re-write of what happened. This is such ridiculous BS. You simply do not try to start a dialog about developing other departments within local governments to manage issues of emotional distress by marching in the streets and chanting "Defund the Police". The ONLY thing you are trying to accomplish with that is to attack the police. Everything else is a transparent attempt to elevate it to something it was not, because everyone saw that the idea to defund the police was a complete disaster. What do you think? Cops LIKE answering those calls!?! You think there'd be a big turf war if cops were told they could focus more on real law and order and community safety? Hardly.

And of course, let's hear from Harvard:

"I think at the core of the defunding movement is the idea that we want to take money out of city and local budgets that has traditionally been devoted to paying for police services, and to redirect it [to] better housing for low-income people, better schools, better mental health treatments," Harvard Law professor John Goldberg told CBSN Originals.

Flipping genius. Because pumping money into a crime-infested neighborhood's school has NEVER been tried before. What's Harvard Law's twist? "Well, first, we get that money from the people responsible for maintaining some level of law in order in the area before we pump it into the school." Ooooooh...THAT'S the missing ingredient. It costs you $66k a year for a guy with that level of analysis to teach you law at Harvard.

Defund the police is one of those liberal terms that

hmm maybe...or is it one of those liberal terms...

^^^ This is what I remember ^^^

I think it could be that.

I think Biden was pretty clear that he wasn't on the...

Correct.

How did Trump get in this conversation?

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I never liked Trump and have said that repeatedly

Re: I think it could be that.

Yeah, he did.

Interesting how police reform is called defund the police

^^^^this***

Re: hmm maybe...or is it one of those liberal terms...

Liberal evolution

Kinda like “tax the rich” means increasing taxes

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What about “you can keep your doctor”

It's a good thing Trump fixed that with HIS healthcare plan,

I'm all for getting rid of the police.

On no planet is that even remotely accurate.***

Maybe read the federalist and anti-federalist papers and

There were no cops then, and they were against domestic

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Short memories ...

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Hear hear, Q. Well said. I'd go a step further and say

I agree. But the type of person that is going to feel led

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Re: I agree. But the type of person that is going to feel led

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Re: Defund the police is one of those liberal terms that

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In short, Dems don’t mean what they say***

uh yeah

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Oh, this is my favorite type of Liberal post, I think.

Re: Oh, this is my favorite type of Liberal post, I think.

Oh shoot. Did I demonize people I disagree with?

I just read the article, and it's EXACTLY what I thought.

It was a way to shrink a complex conversation to a hash tag

I'm for defunding the police to the point they stop

everyone knew what it really meant

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This is one of those threads that I really want to jump in

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