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Re: Another ode to the politically homeless
Mar 5, 2021, 8:24 AM
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You know, if you guys got involved with the Democratic Party, you could be part of pulling them back towards the middle - sort a Joe Manchin. We would listen to your rational arguments.
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Re: Another ode to the politically homeless
Mar 5, 2021, 1:23 PM
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Toby, you're fine. I like you and your kind, the Big Idea Liberals. I can talk to you guys all day long. I love Robert Reich's videos, even agree with most of 'em.
The SJW's, though, they're a different breed...and those, I tend to end up in heated arguments with. I had a Berkeley lesbian throw a baseball bat at my head once. SJW's and myself do not get along, any more than I get along with T3 and his Fascist ilk. I Trigger them. Often on purpose. People who are stridently militant and utterly certain about everything kind of...irritate me. So I tend to irritate them back.
I will never be a Democrat. And I will certainly never be any kind of liberal. Best give up that idea now; I'm a lost cause, there. And I have noticed they do not tend to welcome my "rational" arguments. I tend to feel like I'm playing Lucifer. 
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Re: Another ode to the politically homeless
Mar 5, 2021, 6:16 PM
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Quo
Well, we are the worse for it.
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Re: Another ode to the politically homeless
Mar 6, 2021, 12:23 PM
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Appreciate the sentiment, but you don't want me, I promise. I'm grumpy. And not housebroken. I gnaw on the furniture. I make problems.
My root instinct is basically Libertarian. I'm pretty liberal, socially, and pretty conservative, fiscally. I generally think the best government is the one closest to you and I'm a big believer in free markets...it's just interesting, say, how much of Robert Reich's seeming populism actually is about striking down crony capitalism...it's like: I know Reich is a former dyed-in-the-wool Dem labor Secretary now teaching at Berkeley, but are we sure he's actually not sort of injecting free-market ideals into the hippie subculture there without them realizing it? Because it sort of seems like it.
So I like a lot of liberal ideals. I think a lot of liberal goals are great and noble goals. I just don't necessarily always agree with liberal math, if you follow.
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Re: Another ode to the politically homeless
Mar 5, 2021, 11:15 AM
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homeless is the ultimate freedom
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Urban outdoorsmen***
Mar 5, 2021, 11:35 AM
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Re: Another ode to the politically homeless
Mar 5, 2021, 12:29 PM
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Oh have you not gotten the memo? If you support fiscal responsibility, cutting taxes and cutting discretionary spending, welfare reform, reasonable legal immigration reform, strong national security, no foreign wars, strengthening the US trade position, supporting public funding for medical and scientific breakthroughs that keep us at the technological forefront, putting restraints on legal abortions, keeping the government out of healthcare...
If you support all of those positions, but don’t get down with Trump, anti-intellectualism, conspiracy theories, white victimhood, religious zealotry nonsense, then you’re not a conservative! You’re a RINO, or worse!
The 100% loyalty test, dealing in absolutes stuff that Trump brought with him has pushed huge swaths of people away from voting for Republicans in national elections.
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I think those people will still vote Republican in the future,
Mar 5, 2021, 12:36 PM
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just not when he or one of his disciples is on the ticket. Shoot even as an independent, I would have voted Republican last election given the alternative, except I sure wasn’t going to vote for Trump. So once his views are no longer on the ticket, I think those people will vote Republican again.
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Re: Another ode to the politically homeless
Mar 5, 2021, 12:57 PM
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The problem is if you agree with half the list of ideas you listed, it disqualifies most Democrats.
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Hence the issue***
Mar 5, 2021, 1:01 PM
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Re: Another ode to the politically homeless
Mar 6, 2021, 7:49 AM
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Oh have you not gotten the memo? If you support fiscal responsibility, cutting taxes and cutting discretionary spending, welfare reform, reasonable legal immigration reform, strong national security, no foreign wars, strengthening the US trade position, supporting public funding for medical and scientific breakthroughs that keep us at the technological forefront, putting restraints on legal abortions, keeping the government out of healthcare...
If you support all of those positions, but don’t get down with Trump, anti-intellectualism, conspiracy theories, white victimhood, religious zealotry nonsense, then you’re not a conservative! You’re a RINO, or worse!
The 100% loyalty test, dealing in absolutes stuff that Trump brought with him has pushed huge swaths of people away from voting for Republicans in national elections.
I like your platform. As you and I well know, the government is already up to its eyeballs in health care.
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Most Americans don't.
Mar 5, 2021, 2:15 PM
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And we're the ones who decide the elections. Basically, we gravitate to the other party in an election when one starts to go bonkers. Right now, the GOP is bonkers. Give the Dems time, though.
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Re: Most Americans don't.
Mar 6, 2021, 2:59 AM
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Bonkers is why we ended up with bonkers.
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Re: Another ode to the politically homeless
Mar 6, 2021, 7:38 AM
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I hear you. I am glad that Trump is gone, but not a lot of the policies. I don't see it getting better for some time though.
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