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Topic: Why do some highly Starred players struggle to make the
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Why do some highly Starred players struggle to make the


Sep 22, 2021, 8:58 AM
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transition to college football, while others come in and flourish immediately? To some extent it may be about individual drive and learning ability, but those are things that should have been checked off in the recruiting process.

What may be the main ingredient, which we as fans hardly even consider, is: How similar is the college scheme to what the player learned in high school? The line I hear a lot is, "We are asking him to do a whole lot of new things". If we recruit players who at least have a passing familiarity with the type of offense we want them to run, or the defensive scheme we want them to play in, they, and we, will be immediately ahead of the game.

Now, more than ever, college coaches cannot afford to "miss" on prospects. You can invest a boatload of training and effort into making someone who started out behind into a serviceable player. He can then turn around and walk right out the door because he doesn't think he is getting his deserved playing time.

So, as an informed fan, we should try to dig deeper and find out some of this stuff for ourselves. Then, we may understand team dynamics, and the struggles of individual players. This type of stuff is just another reason that the best college coaches really do earn a huge chunk of their income from OFF the field evaluations.

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Coaches ability to develop the players is a big factor too

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Sep 22, 2021, 9:08 AM
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Along with attitude, work ethic and ability to learn.

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Sep 22, 2021, 9:14 AM
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Yes, but look what we did with ETN - he had a lot to learn.

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Sep 22, 2021, 9:16 AM
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Simple, stars don't make plays, kids do. Many of the so called stars are playing against very bad teams in the their highlight films that are produced. The number of stars does not equate to college competition both on the team and on the opponent's teams and some have what it takes to excel, others don't. A good way to look at it is when you go the grocery store and pick out a beautiful steak and look forward to great meal but the steak is tough when you take your first bite.

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Sep 22, 2021, 9:19 AM
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I think it is always an interesting take this way - do you take a guy who is ready day one with a lower ceiling (KB2) or go with a guy with a higher potential ceiling that needs development? Then you have the golden example of those that are unlimited potential and ready from day one. Generally speaking, it seems that our coaching staff would rather have the "best in November/January" (DW4) rather than the Best in September (Lamar). It often shows every year...


Then again, if you have someone who is the best player in 20+ years if not ever, the next guy is going to be a step back and that is tough to handle.

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Sep 22, 2021, 9:55 AM
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For the same reason some of these highly Starred players struggle to make it the Pros!

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Sep 22, 2021, 10:28 AM
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I guess you need to know if the “star” system means that much. Does a kid get his star rating from attending camps and tryouts where he runs a 40 and a 3 cone shuttle drill and is evaluated by people who may have an interest in promoting certain kids, does his star rating come from being the best player in a state with not great talent, does his star rating come from being on a dominant prep school like IMG where it’s difficult to tell if he benefits from the presence of other dominant players on his team or does his star rating just get inflated because of who has offered him? The Clemson staff I believe blocks out most of that and goes on what they see, hear from the kids coaches and learn from the kid and his family. The more we fly around the country and recruit nationally the more uncomfortable I get because I feel like you have to learn who the good teams are you can use to evaluate your potential signees against. Seems we had traditional beds in the northeast for lineman, Florida for speed and SC, GA, NC and AL for LBs and DLs. JMO

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