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Aug 28, 2021, 9:51 AM
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Disappointing to see so many ignorant and brainwashed people!

If you want to wear a mask wear a mask. I don’t care what other people do they can make their own choices. But there is zero evidence that you should be wearing a mask outdoors especially outdoors with a stiff breeze and It’s pretty windy there.

But again, if you wanna wear a mask, wear one. But wear a REAL mask!

I have only seen a few surgical or N95 masks worn in the crowd. Anything else is useless. It’s virtue signaling. It’s a placebo.

For example, those things Dabo and most coaches wore last season are useless. That’s just a thin piece of cotton. They do absolutely zero to stop a virus.

This proves the people in power are either stupid and ignorant or they simply want your compliance, which is probably the more likely scenario. Because the experts know that anything other than a surgical mask or an N 95 mask is useless. But they don’t require those. They simply require a face covering.

Sorry folks, but that ain’t science! It’s about power and control.

Over the past 10 months I have had two MRIs and a bone biopsy and all three times when I went to the hospital as an outpatient they gave me a one size fits all mask. They fit very loosely and for many people practically fall off of their face. Those masks are doing absolutely nothing! And these are experts at hospitals doing this. They know it’s nonsense. It’s a placebo. It makes brainwashed ignorant people feel safe. It’s beyond stupid! And again it ain’t science!

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Aug 28, 2021, 9:59 AM
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I can easily see where that 55 per cent comes from ...

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Which shows your ignorance!

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:08 AM
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Blacks and Hispanics are the least vaccinated people in America. Not white Trump supporters. But people like you are brainwashed and have Trump derangement syndrome.

And as usual no data no information no facts to refute anything me and other conservatives post you just sling insults.!

If we are so dumb if we’re so ignorant why don’t you prove us wrong? The problem is you can’t because there is no data or science on your side of the equation.

So where am I wrong about my OP? What did I get wrong? Tell me.

What evidence what study shows that you need to wear a mask outdoors especially in a windy environment?

What study what evidence shows that anything other than a properly fit surgical mask or N 95 mask is effective against a virus?

By the way, even a surgical mask or N 95 mask only has very marginal effectiveness and only in certain situations. And that comes straight out of Dr. Fauci‘s emails. As well as most studies regarding masks and their efficiency and efficacy.

So again where is your data where is your science?

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Maybe he went to the library......***

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Aug 28, 2021, 11:33 AM
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Actually,

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Aug 28, 2021, 11:46 AM
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Funny you should mention the library. The Internet does in fact make you dumber.

There is this thing called the “browse effect.”

In the old days when you went to the library you had to sift and sort through a lot of information and a lot of sources to fund the information and data that is relevant to your project. When you use the Internet, however, through trial and error with keywords you end up getting a lot more information easier and faster, but it’s very specific.

Therefore, you might learn, possibly, potentially, more about a particular subject or topic, but you don’t realize all the other things you learned the old fashion way. Tons of things that have nothing to do with your project, but that are in fact valuable. New knowledge is always great.

The best analogy I can think of is rifle versus shotgun approach. The Internet is like using a rifle, whereas the old fashion way in the library is like using a shotgun. Shotgun with number eight bird shot.

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Until you get a paper cut.***


Aug 30, 2021, 1:45 PM
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First off, there’s a COVID board for you boomers to post

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:05 AM
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this drivel.

Second, why even post this for a couple hundred people to see? Nobody cares.

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When all of that knowledge starts to build up in his head

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:08 AM
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he has to let it out or his head will explode.

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First, it’s football related.

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:15 AM
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Second, drivel?

How so? Where am I wrong? Again, people like you don’t post anything that proves me incorrect. You just insult. People like me are so dumb so ignorant it should be very easy to prove us wrong, but people like you never do that. Why is that? We know why, don’t we!

Third, No one cares? What planet are you living on? The whole world is spinning into fascism over a virus that’s not as deadly as the three or four prior pandemics of the past 20 years.

New Zealand and Australia as well as Canada and some European countries are literally behaving like Nazi Germany in the 1930s. And there is no science behind this. None whatsoever? This has been pure fear mongering. It’s about money power and control.

New Zealand just went back into a draconian lockdown because one guy had a positive PCR test and no symptoms. Go educate yourself on the PCR test. The reason most people that test positive are asymptomatic is because few of those people are actually sick. They’re not asymptomatic. They don’t have Covid!

And that Delta variant that everybody is freaking out over. It’s not more deadly. Not when looking at the data.

Back in January and February at the height of Covid roughly 3250 people were dying per day. Right now with regular OG Covid and the Delta berry at around 1250 people are dying per day. But the media is acting like things are just as bad now or worse than they were before when that is a factual lie based on the data from the CDC. Three times as many people were dying back in January and February than today.

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Is it Clemson football related? Look, I don’t give a ####

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:24 AM
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about your point. Whether I agree with you or not is not the issue.

I am just pointing out that you are an ########.

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Seriously?


Aug 28, 2021, 10:33 AM
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There are always posts about game day on this board. Half the posts on this board have nothing to do with Clemson. Do you go to every one of them and insult them and call them names? No! Of course you don’t! Stop acting like a emotional little girl! Stop crying to the teacher. If you don’t like me or my post, block me! That’s why they created that feature!

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:54 AM
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I care.

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:11 AM
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Doesn't this political rant really belong on the P&R board? I come to this board for *football.*

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College game day is football related.


Aug 28, 2021, 10:16 AM
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Nm

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You seem angry.

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:23 AM
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You said that people should be allowed to make their own choices. So why do you care whether people wear a mark or what kind of mask they wear?

You sound much more judgmental than the pro-mask/pro-vaccine crowd you seem to detest.

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I am angry.

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:39 AM
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We are spiraling into fascism and authoritarianism based on ignorance and fear mongering. There’s no science behind any of this.

And I don’t care if people wear a mask, but wear a real mask. 99% of these people are wearing a mask that does absolutely nothing. But they’re doing what the powers that be want them to do. They’re being good little boys and girls and complying. And the people trying to make them comply know that it’s nonsense. That’s the thing that people don’t get. The experts know this is all BS! Because it’s not about science. It’s about power and control. And nothing is going to change until more people get seriously PO’d and mad.

I never thought I would see the day when the French, people in Paris, have more spine and backbone than Americans.

None of this makes you mad?

There’s a saying, if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

Have you not seen parents being arrested for simply speaking out at school board meetings. They are being charged with trespassing on public property paid for by their tax dollars at school board meetings that are open to the public.

That doesn’t make you mad?



Seeing your country going down the toilet doesn’t make you mad?

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Well, be blessed the fascists who ran SC 20 years ago


Aug 29, 2021, 7:59 AM
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Aren't in charge. This is the law in SC and what the state can legally do.

https://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t44c004.php


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And I wasn’t being judgmental.


Aug 28, 2021, 10:51 AM
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You might want to look up the definition of that word.

I was clearly making an observation and pointing out stupidity and ignorance, virtue signaling, irrational fear, and the hypocrisy and the lies of the powers that be.

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:25 AM
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I must’ve taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque

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It must be low tide!


Aug 28, 2021, 10:41 AM
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One of my all-time favorite Bugs Bunny episodes.

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Aug 28, 2021, 11:01 AM
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Lowcnty has confirmed he is possibly one of many ignorant and definitely one one of the brainwashed people.

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I am?


Aug 28, 2021, 11:07 AM
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OK, educate me. What did I post in the OP that was factually incorrect.

If I’m as dumb and brainwashed as you say it should be very easy to prove me wrong.

Other than a true surgical mask or N 95 mask, that is fitted properly and worn correctly, what other type of mask has been shown to be affective with stopping a virus?

What study shows that only the right kind of mask properly fitted and worn correctly is more than maybe 30% effective for more than a limited amount of time?

What study shows that you need a mask outdoors, especially in the daytime and with a heavy wind?

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Maybe they're wearing 2 masks

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Aug 28, 2021, 11:25 AM
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I can't tell.

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But they are definitely not socially distancing.


Aug 28, 2021, 11:29 AM
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Don’t the experts say you have to do both?

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OMG! Take some of this wasted energy and go weed your

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Aug 28, 2021, 11:40 AM
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neighbor's yard! Do something productive!! This is a rant that soothes your tiny little mind and nothing else!! You're argument is not correct just because 20 people agree with you on Facebook!

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Aug 28, 2021, 12:49 PM
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Some people, regardless of their politics, have enough respect for others to, in this case, wear a mask! It has absolutely nothing to do with Trump nor intelligence nor anything else your weak minded post referred to!

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Right. It’s called not being a complete asshoal.***


Aug 28, 2021, 1:01 PM
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So you admit none of this is about science.


Aug 28, 2021, 3:49 PM
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This is really about virtue signaling and being a good little citizen following polite rules of society by the authoritarians. That’s clearly what you were saying. It’s all about the optics. Not the science and the data.

Thank you!

You just confirmed what me and other conservatives have been saying all along. That none of this is based in science. That it’s about power and control. It’s about compliance.

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Wearing a cotton mask outdoors is not respect for other people


Aug 28, 2021, 3:45 PM
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It’s stupidity, ignorance, a complete and fundamental lack of understanding of science and data. It’s pure virtue signaling or founded in fear created by the media or fear of being judged by ######## that don’t know jack #### about the data and the science like the idiots on this board that continually insult me and say I’m dumb and wrong, but yet I’ve posted nothing proving that I’m wrong. Because I’m not wrong!

If I don’t have Covid why would I wear a mask to respect other people as you say. And again you don’t need it outdoors especially outdoors in the daytime with a strong wind blowing.

What you’re talking about is pure virtue signaling.

What you’re talking about is being a good little automaton a good little robot and follow society’s little polite rules that were created by people that want your submission.

My God you people have absolutely no grasp of the facts and the data and the science behind any of this. I swear I think you folks are communists. Because you sure do love fascism and authoritarianism!

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And again, insults, but nothing proving me wrong.


Aug 28, 2021, 3:36 PM
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Tiny little mind? Classy.

What was I wrong about? Do you know of a study that says you need to wear a mask outdoors? Do you know of a study that says wearing a cotton mask will protect you from a virus?

You’re just another ###### bag liberal that’s got nothing but your feelings.

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You say he is Liberal, but how do you know?


Aug 30, 2021, 7:09 PM
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For somebody who doesn’t

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Aug 28, 2021, 1:17 PM
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care if people wear masks, it sure does trigger you little snowflake. I’m still not sure whether you are a russian troll or just a shit-eating fool.

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You need to work on your reading comprehension skills.


Aug 28, 2021, 3:53 PM
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I don’t care if people wear a mask or not. If people want to be ignorant and stupid and compliant little robots then more power to them. When they lose more of their rights they have no one to blame but themselves.

But if you’re gonna wear a mask at least wear one that does something.

99% of those people are wearing a mask that does absolutely zero!

It just proves that the masses have are deluded and manipulated and brainwashed and don’t have a clue about the science.

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Aug 28, 2021, 4:19 PM
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“I don’t care if people wear a mask or not”. Really? Why do you spam the bored constantly with mask #### constantly?

If you don’t care then ####.

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And again, a total lack of reading comprehension.


Aug 28, 2021, 4:37 PM
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I answered that question in the post that you just commented on.

I don’t care if someone wears a mask. I do care about the motivation for why they’re wearing the mask. And the other aspect is the fact that 99% of them are wearing a mask that does absolutely zero! It’s a placebo. Thus, they are either completely ignorant of the science and the data and the facts or they’re doing it to virtue signal or they’re doing it to go along to get along, or to seem like a good little robot following directions rather than being a free thinker an independent thinker a critical thinker. All of those reasons are sad and pathetic!

Bill Maher said it best. We are not a serious people. China and Russia are serious. We are not.

I would still shake my head at their ignorance and robotic compliance if they were wearing a surgical mask or an N 95 mask, but at least they would be wearing a mask that actually does something. Of course even those have limited efficacy, but at least they do a little something.

And why do you care so much what I post? If you don’t like what I post block me. Ignore me. Why does what I post bother you so much?

That should be the question you ask yourself. Because everything I’m posting is reality. What I’m posting is supported by the data and the science. Why does that threaten you so much?

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All you do is talk about masks


Aug 31, 2021, 11:52 PM
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Stop eating ####. It's bad for you. ####### embarrassment.

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The science. There you have it.


Aug 29, 2021, 8:15 AM
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Here's a prime example of "the science" these days...

In full disclosure this link is fake news. False. Misinformation. A lie. Not true. But read it. Then please read the study to see the lie.

Fake News:
https://www.worldtribune.com/scientists-fully-vaccinated-carry-251-times-the-covid-viral-load-as-unvaccinated/


The study they're misrepresenting and lying about... Read it.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

This garbage is rampant. This is just an example. This is what goes around on conservative republican message boards. As a conservative this scares me more than the virus. Sometimes I wonder if an enemy... China or Russia.... Hasn't sent a bot army to conservative message boards because the dissemination of false stuff like this can kill more Americans and cause more unrest than any military operation they may try. If I were an enemy of the US... I couldn't think of a better opportunity, or scenario than now to do this. And the irony is the website with the false information (run by a conservative) links to another website for validation of the same lie. And that other site is funded by Robert F Kennedy, Jr. And they're both pedaling the same lie.

Dangerous times.

In case you're too lazy to read this far in this post... Or the study.... The study said people, vaccinated or not, carry 251 times as much virus (viral load) With Delta, as people who got the original Wuhan strain. Not vaccinated have 251 times the viral load of unvaccinated. They're attacking the vaccines to keep people from taking them.

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Correct indeed


Aug 28, 2021, 3:00 PM
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I've read on this, discussed with medical personnel who know. Only if you wear a well-fitted N 95 or higher grade does a mask have any chance. The mask you see around in the store and restaurant personnel, schools, and everywhere else are useless. A very few people can be observed who wear a mask properly, who "get" it, and are serious about protection - seems to usually be people who look older or vulnerable. Good for them. And outdoors - no need, as you say. Let's rev up this tailgaiting and get this thing going!

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Aug 28, 2021, 3:49 PM
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Oh, just #### already. You're a freaking broken record...nobody cares. You are wasting your time. You will never convince anyone to change their minds.

HTH

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People do change their minds but it’s not easy


Aug 28, 2021, 4:26 PM
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And first they have to stop being manipulated by the echo chamber. They need to stop doing things just because other people think they should. Change happens when people start thinking critically and start thinking for themselves rather than being manipulated brainwashed robots.

It’s like when people on the left wake up and realize they’ve been lied to and manipulated their entire lives. They lose friends and family members when they decide to become a conservative. I have seen countless videos and talked to people in person that found it was easier to come out as gay than to come out as a conservative. That’s insane! Especially in a democratic capitalist society that has done more for the world than all other systems combined! The people trying to destroy this country are the ones that have benefited as much as anyone by this society.

If people didn’t change their minds we would still be living in the dark ages, or the 1700s, or the 1850s, or the 1950s, but we are not! It’s 2021 and I’ve seen our society regress over the last 10 years because of identity politics and lies and BS from the left. I have seen our society moving towards fascism and authoritarianism and segregation by those on the left who are not progressives, but regressive! That’s the main reason they like tearing down statues and destroying history. Statues and monuments and history are like mile markers on the interstate. They give you a frame of reference to which you can compare where you were yesterday with where you are today, and where you are headed tomorrow.

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Aug 28, 2021, 4:13 PM
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Dude, I am a huge Clay Travis fan too, but you need to chill the #### out. Every day you come on here with the same crap, no one cares here, let it go--and honestly what you are doing here is just virtue signaling, bit on the other side. If you really care about all this stuff, go protest at a local school board meeting, write your senators, congressman, etc... find causes that you can make your voice heard. This annoying, nonsense you spout off with daily on tigernet, does nothing and no one cares--even if your points are valid--stop virtue signaling and go make a difference if you care so much. I am saying this as a person that agrees with your POV's.

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Aug 28, 2021, 5:20 PM
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causes people to feel butt hurt and insult me.

I correct people every day. I correct total strangers sometimes when I overhear a conversation. But I do it politely. I don’t do it to shame them or insult them or their intelligence. I do it to inform and educate and in hopes of starting a conversation and a dialogue. I’ve had lifelong friendships begin that way.

The only reason this thread is so long is because of the people insulting or attacking me. It takes two to tango. Or in this case a dozen. The people complaining are actually worse than I am. All they have to do is ignore me. All they have to do is block me.

You could say then why don’t I do the same thing. Why don’t I ignore them or block them. But there’s a difference. I made a post and they decided to attack and insult me. I simply challenged them and asked where am I wrong. Show me I’m wrong if you think I’m wrong. But don’t attack me. Is that too much to ask?

They act as if insulting me or bullying me is going to get them anywhere. It just makes me push back harder. You think they would learn that by now.

These people are arrogant little Nazis that say they believe in science and think they are intellectually and morally superior. I’m challenging them publicly and they keep failing.

I like to argue. I like to fight. But fundamentally It’s in my DNA to punch back when someone punches me. To punch back when someone tries to bully me, especially intellectually.

You should be doing the same thing. If more people did what I did we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re now in this country. People need to stop laying down. People need to start punching back. The right has been laying down for the lead for decades. That’s how we got here.

I’m not virtue signaling from the other side. Being right isn’t virtue signaling. I simply refused to lay down.

For a lot of people they do have to get hit over the head repeatedly before they open their eyes and become logical critical thinkers, free thinkers. It takes many people years to wake up and realize they’re being manipulated and brainwashed.

I wouldn’t have all these comments if my haters simply ignored me if they simply blocked me. I actually wish they would. All they do is prove that they don’t have anything. It proves they’re wrong because they don’t have facts. All they have is their feelings. I wish those people would block or ignore me because then maybe the only comments would be someone wanting to engage in a conversation or gain more information and people wouldn’t get distracted by the bickering but might actually see the wisdom and the logic and start questioning things themselves, which many people do. That’s how change starts. You have to plant a seed, but you also have to water and nurture that seed.


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Aug 28, 2021, 4:17 PM
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board?

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Ah yes more name-calling by the tolerant progressive.


Aug 28, 2021, 5:34 PM
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The tolerant progressive that has never posted anything that proved me incorrect. Just insults and name-calling.

I’ll answer your question.

Freedom of speech.

Because they have a feature where you can block or ignore someone.

Because it’s not their job to obey the whims of people like you that insult people because you live in your feelings rather than facts.

Would you like some more reasons?

This thread would have one post. The original post. If people like you ignored me. If people like you just moved along. If you don’t have anything to add, if all you want to do is insult, if all you want to do is name call, why post? Why not just block me or ignore me or move along?

So maybe you should look in the mirror and ask yourself some hard questions. I know why I do it. It’s in my DNA. I don’t back down from a fight.

Here’s another question. You live in Charleston. You live in South Carolina. You live in the south. You are surrounded by conservatives and libertarians every day. How do you handle that being as emotional as you are? Being ruled by feelings rather than rationality.

Do you insult or attack every conservative you meet in your daily life? Do you behave this way in public?

I will engage people when they are wrong and I will challenge them to engage in a conversation and I have made lifelong friends that way. What I don’t do is name call or sling insults. That’s your game.

But again, do you do that in public? I think not. I think you build up all that hate and animosity and bring it here.

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Re: Ah yes more name-calling by the tolerant progressive.

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Aug 28, 2021, 5:49 PM
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One positive thing for TNet is I might have to start paying again…just so I can ignore your psycho, entirely too long posts that spam the boreds.

I’m really curious how an adult has so much spare time that they can post these novels constantly, all day, every day. Do you not have a job? Or a life outside TNet?

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Fake news concerning name calling


Aug 30, 2021, 7:13 PM
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https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/and-again-insults-but-nothing-proving-me-wrong-29333310


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Could have done without another mask post


Aug 28, 2021, 4:22 PM
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On the friggin football bored

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A nice example for you

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Aug 28, 2021, 10:24 PM
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If you and I are standing in front of each other fully clothed and I start to pee, you have plenty of time to get out of the way before the urine runs through my jeans, on the floor and towards your feet.

If you and I are standing in front of each other and only I'm naked and start to pee, you're clothing is going to get wet pretty fast and my urine will touch your skin quicker.

If were both naked standing in front of each other and I start to pee in your direction, you're out of luck. My urine hits you fairly fast.

Apply that same logic with someone with a naked face and has covid which is spread simply by breathing.

Wear a mask. You sound like one of those idiots that refused to wear a condom when HIV first came around.

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why do you pee on people?


Aug 28, 2021, 11:08 PM
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also aerosol transmission is 100% different from liquid transmission. In other words, the mask doesn't slow the pee down at all.

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it's a kink, I guess


Aug 29, 2021, 7:31 AM
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and yes, covid you can't see coming which makes it worse.

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Aug 28, 2021, 11:32 PM
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Surgical masks don’t do anything more than the cloth ones.

Surgical masks are to protect the patient on the table from your sneeze or cough... not the other way around. Just FYI.

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Aug 30, 2021, 12:54 PM
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The best part about Lowcntry_Tiger®'s post is that he's a pretty decent troll. He calls anyone who disagrees with him "emotional" "judgmental", "lacking in rational"....despite his walls of messages being filled with exclamation points, "Brainwashed people", "virtue signaling", and "ignorant people".

So Low, as we have spoken about, you are the smartest person i know, so prove to me masks don't work. All i see below are conjecture and personal experiences. But i would like to see a Covid 19 based study, peer reviewed and published by an accredited medical journal, that shows without a doubt your claims below.

Prove it. That's all I am asking. I don't want your opinion. I want your facts. Cheers mate.

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