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Tony Elliott quick hitters

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:07 PM
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*He said he thinks DJ Uiagalelei is in a good place, limiting the outside noise. I asked if they ever considered letting Taisun take a few snaps and he said no, that DJ is their guy and he has to go play and learn. Proud of the way DJ responded in the second half.

*In regards to DJ and his throwing motion, Elliott says that he showed up at Clemson with that motion, and they are working with him on it. Not a surprise to the Clemson coaches. Getting better, but still a work in progress.

*The OL is what is confusing him - they hold their own and play well in practice and then don't play well in games.

*He says the explosive plays will come - the rhythm is just off. Saturday and all the play stoppages didn't help.

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Did anyone bring this up

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:09 PM
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https://twitter.com/gmraynor/status/1439971370117390341?s=20

"Clemson's total offense ranks No. 114 nationally and last (!) in the ACC. Take out the Georgia game and the Tigers would still rank No. 75 nationally. These numbers help put into context what the heck is happening."

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Re: Did anyone bring this up

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:10 PM
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Yep. We spent about 20 minutes or more. Covered a lot of ground. Story coming but video will be up shortly.

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If he and his offense keep playing the way they are

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:09 PM
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I'm going to need a one-hitter.

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maybe a good opportunity for one of those

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:43 PM
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weed companies to pass out free one hitters to 80,000 new customers .



Hit it early and often !!!!

last week was a great opportunity for WAKE & BAKE .. ... . wait , no sorry that was fsu .........



This weekend could be STATE & Bake ???????????

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Re: Tony Elliott quick hitters

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:11 PM
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Thanks!

And yeah, it is the big plays that are missing. Beyond just the offensive rhythm. If we go a couple of break out scores, it would be a different mentality/game.

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So, he is throwing the OL under the bus

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:11 PM
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but not DJ even though the last two games he has had plenty of time to throw the ball yet still can't. I guess you can #### on your blue-collar guys so you don't upset your underachieving QB.

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so you read

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:15 PM
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This as throwing the OL under the so called bus...

The OL is what is confusing him - they hold their own and play well in practice and then don't play well in games.



But not this as throwing DJ under ?

In regards to DJ and his throwing motion, Elliott says that he showed up at Clemson with that motion, and they are working with him on it. Not a surprise to the Clemson coaches. Getting better, but still a work in progress.

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Yes I do. Calling out a group for not playing well

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:18 PM
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on gameday is a lot different than talking mechanics. He didn't say the mechanics were causing him to miss easy throws just that they are working on mechanics. Maybe my reading comprehension needs work, but if I were an olinemen and saw this quote versus the one DJ is getting after being putrid all season I'd find issue with it.

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Re: Yes I do. Calling out a group for not playing well

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:55 PM
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The Clemson OL has no standing to take any issue with statements such as the one Mr. Elliot made. What Mr. Elliots statement says to me is that he's tired of taking criticism that would be more correctly directed at Robbie Caldwell and Dabo Swinney.

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Sep 20, 2021, 10:38 PM
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Yep, DJ clearly launched balls over and behind receivers. That’s not on the OL.

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Making those big guys play the entire game is a recipe

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:14 PM
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for mistakes.

With all of the talk about our teams' depth, there has been a complete lack of a rotation offensively. There is a reluctance to try the backup when the starter continues to struggle.

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Re: Making those big guys play the entire game is a recipe

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 PM
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No doubt. I really felt like Paul Tchio and Mitchell Mayes should have gotten a look when Putnam and Tate ran into each other. Dabo said last night that not playing backups was a mistake. Hope they've learned

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Wow a lot of mistakes by this coaching staff every week

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:31 PM
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it seems like now, by their own admission. After the Georgia game, Dabo said play calling has to get better and he wished Clemson would've stayed with the run game more. And now not playing any backups on the o-line the whole game. Wonder when this coaching staff will call a complete game on offense?

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Re: Making those big guys play the entire game is a recipe

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:14 PM
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What am I missing. No mention of Tristan Leigh. Felt like with his recruiting buildup that he could be very close to being a freshman starter. Playbook I suspect.

As for DJU, I guess I missed that last year on his mechanics. They seemed to be ok.

Thanks for the info. This entire thread is hysterical... And I needed that since Clemson men golf tournament was cancelled due to weather.

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Re: Making those big guys play the entire game is a recipe

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:18 PM
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Its about rhythm, rhythm, rhythm. This is our new catchy catch phrase for the year. Rhythm good lawd I am about tired of that word.

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Re: Making those big guys play the entire game is a recipe

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:38 PM
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GET ON UP, IT’S

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Sep 20, 2021, 5:40 PM
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BOBSLED TIME!!

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Someone needs to explain that delay of game call***

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 PM
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There's something in these hills.


They said they were trying to get the defense to jump.

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:18 PM
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Which, when it doesn't work, as it most likely would not, means the offense feels even greater pressure on them.

Poor decision.

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d won't jump when you're in shotgun***

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:39 PM
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Which is why someone needs to explain it.


Sep 20, 2021, 2:06 PM
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That has taken the spot of the previous worst coaching decision I've ever seen. 2011 Auburn vs UofSuCk: Spurrier used a time out on an incomplete pass. Turns out they could have really benefited from that TO when the clock ran out on them.

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There's something in these hills.


How dare you question our coaches!


Sep 20, 2021, 11:00 PM
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Signed,

TNet Mane Bored Football Homers

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Re: Someone needs to explain that delay of game call

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:22 PM
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Stupid explains it in a nutshell

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Re: Tony Elliott quick hitters

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 PM
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Why didn't you ask him why he is never able to make adjustments to his 5 play book game plan during a game?

This is what $2 million dollars buys us?

I coached in a Pop Warner League (On par w/ACC?) years ago. I could possibly locate my playbook and dust it off for the OC job to replace TE and I would do it for a million bucks a yr. Couldn't do much worse and would save CU a million dollars. Since Dabo likes hiring Alumni with no coaching experience, I do have that also in my favor.

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I'd do it for $500,000 and just use Google...***


Sep 20, 2021, 12:35 PM
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I'm surprised they

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:17 PM
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didn't consider a change just to mix things up. Through three games:

DJ's a statue in the pocket and looks confused.

Very slow first step when scrambling.

Throwing mechanics are off and throwing off back foot ... aka overthrowing receivers.

I hope stubbornness in coaching decision to consider a change doesn't result multiple loses.

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TE quick hitters. Sorry, I came in expecting to see

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:24 PM
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Alibi city. What excuses will be next? the best of all time- we saw a different defense than we had prepared for(?) how dare they? that's cheating isn't it?I guess a 2 hr rain delay was not enough time to make adjustments? or maybe our staff is just not competent enough? I hate to say it but it looks like a long,long season.

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DJ looked pretty good throwing the ball last year.....

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:26 PM
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before they started messing with his mechanics.

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Re: DJ looked pretty good throwing the ball last year.....

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Sep 20, 2021, 5:22 PM
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The odd thing about DJ (and his throwing motion)

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 PM
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is that i just finished watching a condensed version of the BC game from last year and he was getting the ball out on time and fairly accurately despite the same throwing motion. I haven't rewatched the ND game yet, but he had even better numbers in that one so i expect to see something similar.

The OL he was playing behind in those games certainly wasn't any better either.

Now, it is worth mentioning that Etienne, Rodgers, and Powell combined for 25 of our 30 receptions and 311 of 342 receiving yards against BC, and then 22/29 and 352/439 against ND. That's 80% of the catches and 85% of the receiving yards to guys that are no longer on the team.

That being said, it's not like Justyn Ross, EJ Williams, Joseph Ngata, Will Shipley, etc are no-talent scrubs. But they certainly have a lot less experience than those other guys did last year.

Also, DCs don't have to worry about Etienne this year which is certainly going to impact numbers in the box.

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Re: The odd thing about DJ (and his throwing motion)

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 PM
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If Taisun doesn’t get some playing time he will be gone. DJ doesn’t have it. Three games into the season and no sign of improving. Clemson will not survive this season until a different approach is taken by the coaches. Miracles don’t just happen you have to make them happen. The trip to Raleigh will tell the coaches something. DJ will never be able to handle what he is going to see in Carter-Finley Saturday.

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Re: The odd thing about DJ (and his throwing motion)

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 PM
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The OL is not getting any push on 1st down. Until the 4th Q we were getting 3 or less yds on 1st Except for 1 4 yd run. I dont remember a pass on 1st Down the entire game.

I dont understand why we couldnt get more with 3 safety coverage. Also why couldnt we throw underneath quick routes?

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Working on his motion is probably throwing him off.


Sep 20, 2021, 10:58 PM
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He's thinking about the mechanics instead of doing what comes naturally.

Maybe it wasn't ideal, but messing with a batter's swing is rarely a good idea in the short term.

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Re: Working on his motion is probably throwing him off.


Sep 21, 2021, 7:01 PM
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I am a southern woman who absolutely loves football! I mean LOVES football.
I understand there is a proper way for each position to be coached and played for safety as well as success for the player and the team. However, when I'm sitting in the recliner at home with some hot wings and a cold beer watching the game, I could not care less what the mechanics look like as long as the ball ends up in the end zone!!! Touchdown Tigers. Now Let's Go!

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Either DJ looks way better in practice than he has in games

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:35 PM
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or Taisun looks way worse in practice than he has in games.

I understand that our coaches don't want to hurt any confidence DJ has left, but given the situation it's hard to imagine Taisun not earning a possession or two to see how he does.

Again, our coaches are obviously going to play who they think gives us the best chance to win. We have to trust that, but it's hard when we have 4 and 5 star talent at most offensive positions and can't produce points with any consistency.

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As good as our D has been...

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:51 PM
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when we turn the ball over, they are forcing a 3 and out. That doesn't give the staff much time to spend with DJ. Why not put someone else in and spend some time talking with DJ about what he's seeing?

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Doesn't that boil down to coaching?

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:04 PM
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I mean I'm no coach but...

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Re: Doesn't that boil down to coaching?

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:27 PM
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Does it?? I mean...they brought us these, for whatever that's worth (apparently not much from what I've been reading on these boards).



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Re: Doesn't that boil down to coaching?

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:34 PM
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It’s looking more and more like Coach V, Deshaun and Trevor brought us those.

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Re: Doesn't that boil down to coaching?


Sep 20, 2021, 2:46 PM
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And who brought them to Clemson? Santa Clause?

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Does that make them infallible?***

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Yes, but we aren't allowed to question the coaches

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Sep 20, 2021, 4:36 PM
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because they have won national championships, and questioning them means we are whiny, ungrateful fans who aren't worthy to keep cheering for Clemson.

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Re: Yes, but we aren't allowed to question the coaches


Sep 20, 2021, 5:22 PM
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But then you take a different approach on the basketball boards . Let’s give him 8 years to get it done

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Brownell overachieves every year based on multiple metrics.


Sep 20, 2021, 9:59 PM
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Our football coaching staff is underachieving this year, big time, based on multiple metrics.

Big difference between the two.

With that said, our basketball coaches are ruthlessly questioned on TigerNet.

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Sep 20, 2021, 10:11 PM
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Your metrics and who else’s ?? If I had a T Elliot profile pic you wouldn’t take me serious either

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Sep 21, 2021, 3:58 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Re: Either DJ looks way better in practice than he has in games


Sep 20, 2021, 3:02 PM
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Taison is a turnover machine and rive killer ever since his freshman year, turns it over 80% of the time--no idea what games you are talking about that he looks better in...even in the spring game he had nerves until the 4th and then looked "decent".

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In limited action THIS year, Taisun has looked better

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Sep 20, 2021, 4:39 PM
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than DJ in my opinion.

Obviously it's a small sample size, in a backup role, against SC State. But his passes looked a lot better, and he carried himself with more confidence.

If we are basing things on last year, then I agree that DJ looked amazing and Taisun looked awful.

But at what point do we need to focus on this year? I'd say now is the time. Perhaps DJ is still the answer, it's just hard to believe based on what I've seen in games.

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Re: Either DJ looks way better in practice than he has in games


Sep 21, 2021, 3:56 PM
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Keep in mind you're replying to someone who thinks Brad Brownell is a good coach. So consider the source.

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Re: Tony Elliott quick hitters

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:35 PM
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Well at least he didn’t say we are improving. I’m tired of the smoke. Everyone can see we have issues quit denying it and fix it. Sounds like he somewhat admitted wee we know y’all see it too.

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 PM
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That's it. Fire TE. Fire Dabo. Fire DRad. ####, fire everybody. Turn their offices into classroom space. Sell the Reeves complex to Newspring. Bulldoze the stadium and bury it in a big ### hole and commemorate its memory with a big memorial plaque and a statue of Danny Ford. Release all former Clemson players from their NFL contracts...after all, they played for this excruciatingly inept coaching staff, so they can't be any good.

Am I doing it right?

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:51 PM
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Nope but even though we are just fans we can see bad so saying nah it’s all good ain’t no good.

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:22 PM
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I didn't say that.

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sounds like excuses to me.***

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:37 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te4AnlODj8k&t=38s

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Sep 20, 2021, 4:32 PM
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Anyone ask why they didn't use the TE more? The 8 yard out to Allen in the 2nd half worked pretty well. Might've helped to use it a few more times.

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Sep 20, 2021, 5:09 PM
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Hate to say it but it appears Tony Elliott is clueless to what is going on with this offense. This is nothing but total BS he is giving us here!

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Kind of sounds like DJ's throwing motion was fine...


Sep 20, 2021, 5:11 PM
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...as evidenced by his stats in HS and his pretty darn good performance against BC/ND last year. Leads be to beleive he's digressing because Streeter likes to make left hander write with their right hand.

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Re: Kind of sounds like DJ's throwing motion was fine...

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Sep 20, 2021, 10:34 PM
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Seems like if they wanted to change his mechanics that could/should have been done last year. Don't need 1st team reps for that, right?

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Sep 20, 2021, 8:47 PM
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I would think the OL is practicing against the scout defense and looking good at practice. I doubt any of the first 2 and some 3 deep Defense positions are running the opponents defense at practice. Therefore, either the scout team defensive front is not providing enough competition or the OL is practicing against the wrong defensive schemes that they will see in the game.

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Sep 20, 2021, 10:21 PM
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Was the OL holding their own during fall camp when the coaches had to pull the 1st string defense off the field so the offense could move the ball?

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Sep 21, 2021, 10:57 AM
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Could the difference in practice and games for our OL be because of the familiarity with our defense, regardless of how good it is? Our issues seem to be more with communication than being pushed around. Just my unprofessional observation.

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Dabo has a previous record of getting the "2nd" guy into


Sep 21, 2021, 7:07 PM
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games early on to gain meaningful experience at the QB position. But now, it's almost like he doesn't want to do it because he is afraid that Taisun MAY outplay DJ, and then we would have the dreaded (?) QB controversy.

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