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Tony admits that Dabo is the play caller

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Oct 17, 2021, 9:42 AM
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Around the 230 mark, Tony states Dabo is in control of the game and basically says he’s being over ridden.

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-football/update/watch-tony-elliott-on-clemson-offensive-performance-38897?fbclid=IwAR1IqlQv1mBhAGsfVVsf9heYXkfN6cvl3rhTvB_2sU50vukiu9aqDXbMPOs

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They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 17, 2021, 9:57 AM
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Dabo before the Ohio State game:

“Tony has always been up and I have been down, so we have always kind of done it together and we will put (Streeter) up and that will be the biggest difference, it will be Street and I.”

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:04 AM
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That kind of sucks to know. It makes solving the problem way more complicated. 2 people have to change.

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:36 AM
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Yup because God knows Dabo has been an incompetent failure to this point. Why do we do things his way? Why won’t somebody to something??????

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 17, 2021, 11:56 AM
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I think we could have had a better O the last few years. I think we underachieved. Herbstreit and Pollack said the same. Some of us think the O could be better. It's not just this year. Nobody is perfect.

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 17, 2021, 9:48 PM
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Nobody said anyone is perfect - that’s a strawman argument. Guess what, the offense can always be better. Is it making it better to post about it on TNet? Is there a set of steak knives for being the first to complain about something? There is zero chance Dabo will be fired or given ultimatums, certainly not after this season no matter how bad it gets. So espousing what he should do on here - OVER and OVER again - is not constructive. Perhaps if someone actually made a genuinely new observation? Sure. But it’s the same BS on non-stop loop.

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:37 PM
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You do realize that this is what message boreds are for… if it bothers you so much… don’t get on Tigernet? Or find your safe space.

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…


Oct 17, 2021, 11:06 PM
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Boards are not for acting like a complete idiot or maybe your proving me wrong

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 17, 2021, 11:16 PM
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Seems like the boreds are proving you wrong. People can act like complete idiots, they can say whatever they want. Luckily they have the freedom to do so. Just like you have the freedom to disagree with them. So please tell me how anyone should be censored for their opinions and we can see who the true idiot is.

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:56 AM
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Message boards (or social media) are not free speech zones. You post purely at the pleasure of the site owners. Who have realized that letting people be idiots is most profitable. But it is not, at all, analogous to our actual protected right to free speech. People get banned here all the time and all you literally do is generate speech.

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^^^Biden Voter^^^***

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Oct 18, 2021, 7:06 AM
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^^^Biden Voter - Oh, you mean a person with good Character


Oct 18, 2021, 1:30 PM
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and a true patriot, NOT a White Nationalist.

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:52 AM
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No - it is not what they are for. It is what they have become. And just like some want to inanely berate our coaches I’ll pour equally pointless effort into pointing out why it’s stupid.

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 18, 2021, 1:11 PM
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Agreed. Like anyone on here (maybe there's a couple of team members) actually knows anything about what's going on inside the team and coaches. And thus, I don't have to respect the "free speech" when it's blatantly stupid and ignorant.

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Your entire post is a strawman argument.

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Oct 17, 2021, 11:13 PM
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No one is saying Dabo is a failure or should be fired either, yet that’s what you’re arguing against in a bizarre attempt at Superfan superiority status.

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Re: Your entire post is a strawman argument.


Oct 18, 2021, 1:08 AM
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Actually, yes they are. Anyone presuming they know anything that isn’t known or hasn’t been addressed internally by our staff is presuming they know something or a solution that Dabo doesn’t know. He is ultimately responsible for every aspect of this program. If anything gleamed from the message board was news to Dabo he would be incompetent. Tediously criticizing the qb and OC by posing questions about why they haven’t done this or that is to presume he is incompetent. Anyone who genuinely believes they see and understand something he doesn’t should absolutely stop ##### footing and call for his ouster. And that’s just the passive aggressive clowns. More than a few posts state things along the line of Dabo being made to change his ways. At the point you want an administrator to act as proxy for the fan base to get the coach to act a certain way you may as well call it a day and fire the coach.

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Re: Your entire post is a strawman argument.

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Oct 18, 2021, 1:13 AM
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You say I’m using a strawman when the post I’m replying too literally says “Dabo has to change” and how difficult that will be. I have a hard time believing he meant Dabo of his own realization will go on a spirit journey. I interpret that as he thinks external forces should impress upon Dabo that changes “have” to be made. Good luck with that. If I’m wrong and OP (that I replied to) wants to correct me that he simply meant that the struggle for personal growth is difficult for all of us I’ll gladly correct the record.

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Can it get more obvious that Viztits

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Oct 18, 2021, 1:33 AM
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is DSQ???? ??

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We had a top 10 offense those few years. We have

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:37 AM
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a national championship, a #2 finish, and a #4 finish in those few years.

Underachieved??

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Oct 18, 2021, 5:49 AM
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We played extremely weak competition and were exposed vs quality competition. Yes, we underachieved. The O was ok. I agree with Herbstriet and Pollack.

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Um, we had top 5 overall schedules when considering the


Oct 18, 2021, 12:29 PM
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playoffs, and the offensive statistics include all games. We didn't have a dropoff against the best competition and certainly were never "exposed". You have no clue what you're talking about. Offense has never been a reason we lost any playoff game, and we've won more playoff games than any team in America except Alabama.

And, at what point did we play better schedules to say we underachieved the last few years?

It's asinine to say the offense underachieved when it averaged #6 in the nation and actually did better than the previous years under Watson, and neither Herbstriet and Pollack ever said that. You're full of it.

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Oct 18, 2021, 2:22 PM
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“ Offense has never been a reason we lost any playoff game”

I guess you missed the 2018 Sugar Bowl when we only scored 6 points.

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Oct 19, 2021, 12:41 PM
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True. I was more so talking about the ones like LSU and OSU where we had almost 400 yards. The Kelly Bryant year was the lowest offensive output of the Elliott era.

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Oct 18, 2021, 9:32 PM
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Our O sucked the last 2 years in the playoff and we underachieved. Look at Ohio State and LSU. The ACC sucked and that's why you think we were solid. You're too emotional to be objective and see the reality. I am with Herbstreit and Pollack on the issue. Its obvious. We had two generational talents that masked our weakness, but it worked on lesser and weak talent only.

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That's bullcrap.


Oct 19, 2021, 12:58 PM
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You're not even close to being correct.

We had 400 yards against LSU, but they had almost 650 yards. Just like everyone that year, there was no stopping Burrow and company. Nobody came close, and we were victim to that as well. Our offense moved the ball, and it was 25-28 near the end of the 3rd quarter. The problem was we couldn't stop them in the 4th quarter, and that's the only reason we lost. We were in the top 5 offenses that year and offense was not remotely the reason we lost the game, and the offense on no way, shape, or form underachieved.

Against OSU the following year we once again had a top 10 offense, including the best passing game in our history. We had almost 450 yards, but yet again the other team had almost 650 yards. Fields himself had 400 yards, and he competed nearly 80% of his passes for 6 TDs. They added another 250 yards on the ground and another TD. Yet again, the reason we lost was because we simply could not come close to stopping the other team.

We didn't underachieve either of those years. We made the playoffs, bit lost to teams that we couldn't stop on defense.

The 2018 and 2019 teams were better offensively than the 2015 and 2016 teams. Did those team underachieve as well?

Pollack and Herbstriet never sad that we underachieved. Just like you saying our offense sucked in the payoffs, you're making it up. So obviously, it's not obvious. Please stop talking out of your ###.

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:07 AM
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You’re right. But listed to the way Tony says he’s calling a run and Dabo wants a throw. He’s goes on to say Dabo is in control, so there’s that. It’s pretty clear he’s not happy about it. That’s a problem.

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:38 AM
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OH GOD NO!!! I hope DRad has a long talk with Dabo. He has to change instantly. I can’t believe we’ve invested so much for so long in a coach who clearly has no idea how to run this team.

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:42 AM
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Running a team and being a good play caller are two different things. Few can do both.

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Oct 17, 2021, 11:10 AM
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And yet for the last decade we’ve known he’s been heavily involved in the game planning and play calling? So again - OH NO! GOD HELP US!

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Can you tell me the best passing season in the 6 yr playoff

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:45 AM
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run? It was just last season, 2020.

The 2018 and 2019 offenses were better than the 2015 and 2016 offenses.

You act like there's been a sudden decline in offense.

We have a national championship, a #2 finish, and a #4 finish in those seasons.

What do mean he's not a good playcaller?

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:58 AM
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That can’t be right everyone who is down on TE is positive our production is down under his watch. Another TNet classic like “Tommy Bowden was a great recruiter” and “Brad Brownell is a great Xs and Os coach.”

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Puzzling, but

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Oct 18, 2021, 1:40 AM
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Why do Winthrop grads have such an issue with CBB???

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Maybe because he's a fan and sees the same things we all see


Oct 18, 2021, 12:31 PM
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When I say "all" that excludes your friend.

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I can see why

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:59 PM
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you felt inclined to respond to my post. Next time, go against your instinct like you should have when you T-mailed me.

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No.


Oct 18, 2021, 1:18 PM
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LOL. Here comes your telltale passive-aggressiveness. You sound EXACTLY like your friend.

I'm not sure what you mean by you see why I felt inclined to reply to your post? I replied for the same reasons anyone replies to a post. Heck, why did you feel inclined to reply to his post?

So what's the problem commenting that you don't have to be a Clemson alum to see 11 years and 3 tournaments with TWO postseason wins is a mismatch for $2.6M?

Why would I not tmail you again? We both know why I did, but the issue is you weren't honest about it.

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You’re really overthinking


Oct 18, 2021, 3:20 PM
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a lot. I didn’t reply to anything in the context of his posts. BTW, I agree 100% with everything he said.

I know you don’t know what I meant because it wasn’t for you… In fact, until you sent me that cringy T-mail, I never noticed your existence. Also, I have no need to be passive aggressive. If I disagree with you, you’ll know it.

You shouldn’t T-mail me because I don’t know you or give two ##### about you. You’ve manifested this idea otherwise in your head, but I can assure you that your fan club didn’t include me until now so you’ll have to keep searching for whomever your biggest fan is. Sorry sport.

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Re: You’re really overthinking

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Oct 19, 2021, 12:37 AM
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On one of my first posts if not my first I said Georgia was going to be physical with us, and we better be ready.

You called me a "coot" and TDed me. So yeah.

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I call lots of people coots


Oct 19, 2021, 11:33 AM
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but I didn’t mean to make you cry.

Also, everybody gets called a coot when they join. You’ve been here long enough to know, but maybe you’re too busy taking it too seriously. BTW, 99.9% of the time a Moran that joins T-net before a game like that, then proceeds to tell members anything about said game from the perspective of a Clemson fan, is a coot.

You’re no victim, you’re just not living in reality or you are a coot troll. Jury is still out.

Oh, and I probably did TD you then if you did what you say you did. I just TD’d this post too for whining about getting a TD, coot.

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Re: Puzzling, but

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Oct 18, 2021, 6:28 PM
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Am I missing something? Are we bashing on Winthrop grads now? Lots of circumstances besides innate intelligence determine where people go to college. So besides normal rival bashing it seems pretty classless to be trying to bash where people go to college. I’m sure there are more than a few on here.

And do you share your account with someone? You have had a lot of perfectly reasonable responses to posts about our football situation. But here you are flaming away agro-style with no obvious provocation. Just curious.

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No, and this isn’t even flaming Viz,

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Oct 18, 2021, 7:30 PM
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I’m very consistent with my messaging on the topic. I challenge you to find otherwise.

How do you interpret my post as bashing Winthrop???? Great school. I’m specifically saying that you are a another poster, banned, that attended Winthrop. Clear enough?

Nope. Just me. Sorry again as you have said this to me a number of times. Don’t forget, I’m also JK’s Scok, ya donut.

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Re: No, and this isn’t even flaming Viz,

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Oct 19, 2021, 7:11 AM
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“Clear enough” - not it is not remotely clear enough. I literally have no idea what you’re talking about. So I assumed the Winthrop thing was some kind of back handed jab. Because I don’t post under two accounts, much less one that claims to have gone to Winthrop. It’s also why I open the post with “Am I Missing Something” - which obviously I was. Mostly you making an incorrect assumption.

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“Incorrect assumptions”


Oct 19, 2021, 11:19 AM
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the irony is almost too much.

You got defensive because you are a Winthrop grad. A proud one under your other user that’s still banned.

Look, I don’t care how many Scok’s you have Q, but you aren’t fooling anyone. I suspected last year, but your massive slip up in this thread is gold. Keep backpedaling though. It’s adorable.

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Re: “Incorrect assumptions”


Oct 19, 2021, 8:19 PM
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what exactly was my "massive slipup". Using multiple accounts is a violation of terms of service and all my posts should be from the same ip. would be really easy for the mods to check. so please feel free to report me to the mods if you aren't just trolling me at this point. I'm starting to think you're just off your meds. That and you don't actually understand the definition of irony.

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Repeat these words to yourself


Oct 19, 2021, 8:36 PM
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Bloodbeorange does not care.

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If he's not happy with it

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:54 PM
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why does he keep hanging around? Not like he hasn't had opportunities to leave. Likely been this way since he got the job.

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If I was him i wouldn’t be happy taking so much


Oct 19, 2021, 2:13 AM
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Heat from the fans.

I’ve been pouring it on prettttty hot.

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Re: They share playcalling 50/50, Dabo has admitted it too…

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Oct 17, 2021, 11:25 PM
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Well if TE is so unhappy ....
Why would Dabo over rule him so when Dabo has stated Many Times how "Brilliant" he is. There is a disconnect here.
Who called the fake punt?

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You either made that up or it's your imagination

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:57 AM
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"It’s pretty clear he’s not happy about it."

You're full of it.

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They share in playcalling but it's not 50/50.

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:54 AM
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Tony calls the plays from the booth, and Dabo can give ideas or override anything. Nothing new. A lot of head coaches are involved in playcalling.

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Well, whatever their arrangement is, it isn’t working at all THIS year.

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Oct 18, 2021, 4:40 PM
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And that is the topic at hand.

Not 2020.

Not 2019.

Not 2018.

Not any other year.

THIS year.

2021.

They need to fix it. It was their job to prevent this type of cluster of a situation, and they didn’t. Now it’s their job to fix it. So far, they haven’t.

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Re: Tony admits that Dabo is the play caller

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:13 AM
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This may be indicative of a larger issue under the surface.

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:30 AM
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I listened to his comment several times trying to just brush it off as nothing and it might be. But its possibly a little telling for something like that to flip out. I don’t know maybe.

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Re: Tony admits that Dabo is the play caller

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:48 AM
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It don't make a dadgum who is calling the plays. The players have got to make the plays on the field (offense) and they are more than a couple that are not.

Go Tigers........

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Baloney


Oct 18, 2021, 1:33 PM
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Indigestible!

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Didn’t we hear something similar from Napier…

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Oct 17, 2021, 10:52 AM
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And Morris?

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Re: Didn’t we hear something similar from Napier…

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If Tony calling runs on 1st and 2nd downs and throws on third I wouldn't blame Dabo for overriding. Not sure if this is case but I noticed that on a couple games back. DJ is too inconsistent to make every third down pass. One miss and we will have to punt. Maybe Dabo losing confident in Tony. This might be a good sign that he might make change in of season.

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If Tony calling runs on 1st and 2nd downs and throws on third I wouldn't blame Dabo for overriding. Not sure if this is case but I noticed that on a couple games back. DJ is too inconsistent to make every third down pass. One miss and we will have to punt. Maybe Dabo losing confident in Tony. This might be a good sign that he might make change in of season.

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Oct 17, 2021, 11:41 AM
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Chad Morris was the only OC since Dabo has been HC who had play calling autonomy according to Dabo.

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Oct 17, 2021, 11:49 AM
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I really hope this is not true.

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Oct 17, 2021, 11:54 AM
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I think your subject title is a little misleading and a reach from what’s actually said. There’s a difference between TE saying “let’s run the ball here” and Dabo having final approval because he is in fact the HC and game manager and Dabo “doing the play calling.”

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Oct 17, 2021, 12:14 PM
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IMHO the set of plays to choose from needs adjusting. Don't over complicate the blocking. But move your skill players around more, run routes that complement each other, and get a matchup you like. And please, please, use the middle of the field.

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At the 2:20 mark of the video I heard the exact same thing

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Oct 17, 2021, 6:31 PM
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That was an issue Morris’ last year too.

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The career arcs of Dabo and Chad

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Oct 17, 2021, 11:05 PM
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kinda went in opposite directions, didn't they? Just maybe, Dabo isn't just the cheerleader, X & O goofball so many seem to assume he is. Last 5 years prior to this one our offenses were fairly decent. Dabo was involved, just like now.

This offense is limited greatly compared to the last 5 years. The main reason isn't a lack of creativity, or play calling, it's that the folks recruited to make plays aren't making plays. Some of that is holes in recruiting, like all our WR being the same type player. Some of it is bad luck, as three guys who could be that different type receiver are unable to play or not ready. The OL has been a revolving door with injuries. The QB isn't DW or Trevor, he's much slower in his development.

All those things can be fixed, and quickly. Just not in season, they're personnel issues

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Re: The career arcs of Dabo and Chad

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:49 AM
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Are you under the assumption that whoever has the #47 or #65 ranked offense in the country must have better players? You can have a successful offense without 2 or 3 1st rounders on your offense. Most every other team does it. If the offense can only be successful when we have generational players, then the play calling is the issue. Adapting to what you got and being successful at it is what the #51 ranked offense in the country is doing right now.

Again,we aren’t being greedy and asking for a top 10 offense, heck if we were ranked #60 right now in offense we’d be undefeated. And we’re playing bad teams at that.

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Oct 18, 2021, 1:10 AM
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last 3 years. There was no dropoff last year when DJ played. He was tremendous last year in this same offense, and he broke offensive records at Death Valley and Notre Dame... whose only been playing football of for 133 years. We have potential 1st rounders on our offense right now. They're just not playing up to their potential. Of course we're not playing well right now, but it's the same offense and same playcaller where DJ shined last year.

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Oct 18, 2021, 6:23 AM
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Who misses Jeff Scott????

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Jeff didn't call plays & he wasn't part of the best passing

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Oct 18, 2021, 12:17 PM
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offense in Clemson history last year. The only thing that changed when Jeff Scott left was the rushing game lost efficiency. Jeff is not a running game coordinator.

The whole Jeff was somehow the mastermind is a creation of fans.

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Hey look, it's Peppa posting from the AD's office again.

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Oct 18, 2021, 1:40 PM
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Whatever Tony is paying you, it's not enough.

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Careful

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Oct 18, 2021, 3:27 PM
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She’s a stage three clinger. She seems to like the negative attention like past Scok’s Courageous/savage tiger.

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That wonderful passing offense managed just 28 points in our most

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Oct 18, 2021, 4:49 PM
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important game last year.

Way to go!

You do realize that we were so good passing because our OL couldn’t run block to save their lives, and because we had a generational talent at QB as well as NFL talent at other skill positions, right?

If our success were mostly due to coaching, as you suggest, we wouldn’t have seen such a drop off in offensive production this year with “only” great talent (rather than generational talent).

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Oct 19, 2021, 8:20 PM
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^ Clemson superfan ladies and gentlemen.

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Oct 18, 2021, 4:14 PM
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NOPE!! You are wrong. This is NOT the same offense as last year. Last year we were wide open and were liable to do anything at any time. This year we go at a snails pace and a second grader can easily predict what we will do.

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Im saying we have round pegs in square holes

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Oct 18, 2021, 5:26 PM
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Offensive line hasnt started the same five since Tech. A boundary receiver playing slot out of necessity. Lack of depth at both OL and WR due to injuries. And a QB who clearly is not as developed as DW and Trevor were at this stage, not to mention he's not a natural runner in an offense predicated on RPO's and an agile QB

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Oct 18, 2021, 1:56 PM
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I am man enough to admit my wife is the playcaller at my house! I really like her cooking, alot!

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Oct 18, 2021, 4:10 PM
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Well, maybe now we get a better idea why it takes forever and a day to get a play called. Three people involved and the third can change it at the line if he sees something. Good Lord, take us back to the days when the QB called his own plays and could go as fast or as slow as he wanted because he was coached properly. Nowadays it seems coaches assume that their players are too dumb to do anything on their own and have to be instructed in every small detail. It is no wonder they fold under pressure like a cheap tent. Sad to see.

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Oct 18, 2021, 4:53 PM
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So you’re saying that our coaches assume and on that basis, recruit dumb players? I’m guessing not.

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Oct 18, 2021, 4:19 PM
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TE trying run Dabo over with the ROY bus

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Oct 18, 2021, 6:03 PM
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I'm amazed at some extremists on these boards. Obviously Dabo's record shows he's doing something right. Only one team has a better record in the last 6 yrs and that belongs to Saint Nick. But comparing Dabo to Nick, you just have confidence Saban can fix his issues when they occur. My confidence in Dabo doing the same is waning. I hope he proves me wrong. We've seen many teams bench struggling QB's this year but Dabo refuses to. Not saying it's the solution. But it might spark something. I think it's at least worth a try. Coming off two weeks to get it right against a not so good cuse D shook what confidence I had. Starting to believe this O staff, Dabo down, doesn't know how to fix it. Dabo has been good at bringing in the right people. I'm thinking he might need to do it again. Until then, we'll just have to root'em thru, if we can. Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong on this.

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