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TNET: Clemson recruiting update: Tigers firmly in the mix for 5-star defenders

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Jun 22, 2021, 8:00 AM
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Clemson recruiting update: Tigers firmly in the mix for 5-star defenders

Updating the latest in Clemson recruiting, including a star-crossed defensive effort that could yield more dividends soon. Full Story »


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Jun 22, 2021, 8:01 AM
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Hope y'all enjoy this!!

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Great info! Much appreciated.

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Jun 22, 2021, 8:21 AM
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One thing though, what in the world could the weakness be that UGA or UNC can exploit especially to a DL prospect? If this was OL i would understand especially given our less than stellar record of sending them to the NFL but DL? We've got so many high profile draft pickes especially over the last few years and it's a goven they'll be plying in the CFP almost every year

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You are so right about

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Jun 22, 2021, 8:34 AM
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the D-Line development. Someone on here, sorry forgot who, posted a stat about how the three schools develop NFL talent on the D-Line and it was not even close. Let me say this IMO what they are telling Shaw should be a non-issue for Shaw, and he should be able to see it. However, if what I have heard they are selling him is the reason he does not come to Clemson than Shaw was just never going to go to Clemson. It borderlines on more of an excuse than a reason.

-I think we have to hope that he is just on a high from the UGA visit, because the same thing will happen after this weekend when he visits UNC. Best case scenario he does not hold to that potential July 8th date, and Clemson can draw him to the Cookout. This is a strange recruitment to say the least.

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Jun 22, 2021, 9:07 AM
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I read some rumors in the last 2 days on other schools sites that we now sit third in Shaws recruiting. Have you seen the same, and if so I’d there any credence to this?

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Jun 22, 2021, 9:15 AM
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Yes I have, and I really do not know the pecking order right now. That is why I tried to say in the update that he was in no way a lean to Clemson. Like I said the UGA visit went great and UNC gets one this week, and Clemson has to hope that these rumors are merely a visit high, because they are coming from pretty good sources, because going into visits UGA was running 3rd that I know. I will say if Clemson is unable to get him back on campus before he decides I am not sure there is going to be good news.

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Jun 22, 2021, 10:06 AM
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Yup, same same thing happened with Zeus and Salyer. We led, they visited UGA, and then they never returned to Clemson (“car trouble” / “family reasons”).

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Re: Great info! Much appreciated.

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Jun 22, 2021, 9:04 AM
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Here’s a weakness…..local car dealers can’t match what the Atl and CLT dealers can pay in endorsement money., etc.

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Jun 22, 2021, 8:45 AM
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247 has Antonio Williams with a Clemson offer can you confirm?

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Jun 22, 2021, 9:10 AM
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I saw that 247 had that on Saturday, and I think that is just a mistake. He has not reported an offer at least. That probably would have been the 1st thing we mentioned.

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Definitely enjoyed it!

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Jun 22, 2021, 10:13 PM
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For some unknown reason, I get a Clowney/Lattimore type of vibe with the Shaw recruitment. Mack Brown can build something presentable at unc, and it has to start with the national recruits right there in NC choosing to stay home. I have no reason to believe that Shaw could be drawn to unc, but something about him just feels Clowney-ish, i.e., he stays in-state to help build momentum for the home state school despite being able to chose a perennial power to win championships... is there anything, or any tie that he might have to unc? I'm referring to something off the radar like a sibling or very close relative at unc, a relative that was a unc star maybe in another sport, or something that we just don't typically pay attention to as a recruiting tool?

What say ye Clemson Paw?

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Jun 23, 2021, 9:21 AM
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Nothing quite like that as far as what I am aware of. I have outlined that Clemson has help in this recruitment from former players in the Greensboro area. When UNC recruits a player they do not just recruit the player, they recruit those around them as well. And I would not rule out UGA, I am hearing a ton of reliable smoke that they now are top 2 with UNC.

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Jun 24, 2021, 6:25 PM
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wow... does "top two with unc" mean that they are in the top two and Clemson is 3rd or does that mean that uga and unc are co-number 2?

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Jun 24, 2021, 6:48 PM
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Yes some of the smoke is that Clemson is now running third, but no one really knows. That is why the entire time I have said he is not a Clemson lean, despite the perception he was. At this point you just have to wait it out. He has a visit to UNC this weekend and after that we should have a better idea as the month of July progresses. All three teams actually think that they are in an okay position, I am really not sure even though right now.

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Jun 23, 2021, 12:23 AM
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Always look forward to reading your recruiting updates.

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I am so glad that Clemson has a

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Jun 22, 2021, 8:27 AM
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"cheerleader" as a Head coach! The best is yet to come! Great job Paw!

Go Tigers AND Stay Well Clemson Nation!

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Jun 22, 2021, 8:33 AM
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That was a good read. Thanks


I really hope we land Shaw.

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Jun 22, 2021, 8:38 AM
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As always, thank you for putting this report together for us, Paw.

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Jun 22, 2021, 9:24 AM
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recruiting.

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Jun 22, 2021, 9:39 AM
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It's not really something that I think is an issue, it is something that the two schools are telling Shaw. Here is what I said in a reply above: "Let me say this IMO what they are telling Shaw should be a non-issue for Shaw, and he should be able to see it. However, if what I have heard they are selling him is the reason he does not come to Clemson than Shaw was just never going to go to Clemson. It borderlines on more of an excuse than a reason".

-Again I do not think it should be that big of a deal for Shaw, I think we just have to hope he is on a post-visit high.

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Jun 22, 2021, 10:33 AM
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You don’t have to say yes or no but reading between the lines I am assuming what Shaw is being told we have a lot of bodies at DT (Ruke, ET, Capehart, Bresee, TD, Williams, Page, etc.) despite Shaw being better than the most.

Also inferring saying if he chooses another school for this reason maybe he wasn’t the right fit. End of the day I think/hope our culture and results win out bc he is a body we absolutely need on that line and will help bring back memories of the power rangers with some other the potential other names you dropped today.

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Jun 22, 2021, 10:45 AM
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Dang you are pretty good at reading between the lines. So, yes that is one of the things I have heard, and again Shaw is good enough he comes in 2nd string at worst, should not be an issue for him. That is why it is more of an excuse than a reason IMO.

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Jun 22, 2021, 1:47 PM
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Thanks Clemson Paw and what I assumed from your posts (which are excellent and I’m glad you got your main page). I just hope Shaw likes the competition bc I think he is a day 1 on the 2 deep kind of guy. End of the day I feel like Clemson is the only of the 3 that can sell culture and competing on the biggest stage. Hope that’s enough.

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Jun 22, 2021, 12:40 PM
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Capehart is being slept on right now. He’s an absolute specimen and can do it all. Iirc, the IMG HC, or maybe it was the DC, called him the best DL to ever come through there.

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Jun 22, 2021, 9:37 AM
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That joker did a great job! Thank you!

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Jun 22, 2021, 1:27 PM
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Thanks man I am really glad that you enjoy these.

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Jun 22, 2021, 9:38 AM
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It was worth the wait. Probably shouldn't have read your post last night... Lolol - tossed all night with anticipation. Didn't dissapoint.

As for Shaw, I like everyone hope we land him as well as the others. I trust that as you stated, at the right time what may or may not be with recruiting. Enough said.

Will anticipate more on the 2022 class as the information becomes available. Especially along the OL front. Have a great week yourself. Refreshing to hear "Good News" !!!

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Jun 22, 2021, 1:34 PM
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Thank you Clemgal I am so glad it was worth the wait, and I definitely was a tease last night so I apologize for that.

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Jun 22, 2021, 9:51 AM
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Good stuff CP. We can’t get enough of this.
Thank you for pulling this analysis together.

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Jun 22, 2021, 10:28 AM
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If we don't land Shaw, who is our next option at DT?

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Jun 22, 2021, 10:49 AM
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I personally love Caden Curry, who attended the Retreat. I know he is the #1 guy on OSU's DT board and they think he is as talented as Breese he just has not gotten the exposure yet.

Dindy could play DT or DE, but he is a great talent as well, top 1o player in the country and as I said Clemson gets their shot.

-Hero Kanu made his way to Clemson this Fall and he is raw just starting to play but he is very talented.

-Those are the three I would go after.

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Jun 24, 2021, 8:54 PM
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Three excellent picks CP. Curry would be a great get, so agile for a DL. What about Dominique James out of IMG. Any chance Clemson offers him, particularly as a backup plan?

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Jun 24, 2021, 9:30 PM
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Honestly have not heard that name mentioned yet. Descent offer sheet, I saw he recently visited OSU. Watched a little bit of film, and he looks like what you said kind of a backup/developmental guy.

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Jun 22, 2021, 12:23 PM
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That's an awesome lunch time read.

Thank you!

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Jun 22, 2021, 12:32 PM
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Great read Paw thank you will win with whoever we get we've done an excellent job of that our player development is second to none

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Jun 22, 2021, 1:51 PM
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I just counter the UNC smack with an "Do you really believe Mack Brown is going to be your coach in 3 or 4 years?" and the proverbial "Do you want to play football at a place where football is a distant 2nd fiddle?". As far as Georgia all I can really say is "If you go to Georgia maybe one year Kirby may buy you 2nd or 3rd place rings bc that's the only way you putting a ring on there."

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Jun 22, 2021, 4:09 PM
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Thank you glad you enjoyed this.

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Jun 22, 2021, 4:47 PM
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I personally think Travis Shaw will be another Jalon Walker situation and have this way the entire time. I hope I'm wrong, but with some misses on the DL recently for UGA, I feel like they need him badly. Kirby will bring out all his recruiting "magic" for Shaw.

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Jun 22, 2021, 5:05 PM
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That is definitely a possibility that he goes to UGA, the only difference in my estimation is that Walker was a Clemson lean until later in the process, while Shaw was never a Clemson lean despite that being the perceived perception. That is why I hate the CBs on 247, they have a tendency to be wrong, and while people like you and me actually know what's happening because we follow recruiting, those that do not follow recruiting closely base their opinion solely on where the CBs are for a recruit.

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Jun 22, 2021, 4:49 PM
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You're gonna share the bad news on recruiting "when the time is right"? Are you a joke?

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Jun 22, 2021, 5:00 PM
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I gave you a TU simply because I am very nice person; however, I have already answered you question/childish attack in previous replies to this story. Please go read those replies if you actually want to know.

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