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Oculus Spirit [97677]
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Some good economic data just dropped. SELL!!!
Dec 2, 2022, 9:42 AM
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Twilight Zone I know. Wages climbed double the expectations. Jobs jumped more than expected. Wages up over 5.1% on the year. This is MAJOR for the Fed. Wages climbing is inflation fuel. That's probably the one metric that scares the Fed the most.
.75% again is now my guess. We are not yet at a level in the lending rate to impact our level of inflation. With China screwed up expect more inflation in the early part of next year.
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CU Medallion [73569]
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I'm still waitin on more mass layoffs come
Dec 2, 2022, 9:44 AM
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Jan. But I'm hoping we're starting to see the bottom. I'll probably start buying stocks again come jan.
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Orange Blooded [3615]
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Re: I'm still waitin on more mass layoffs come
Dec 2, 2022, 9:47 AM
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There is a lot of speculation that the market will be pretty sketchy over the next year or two. Who knows though?
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CU Medallion [73569]
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The mkt usually doesnt stay down more than 1.5 yrs
Dec 2, 2022, 9:54 AM
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at least in my years during recessions. 2008 was about 1.5 yrs i think and that was worse than this imo.
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Orange Blooded [3615]
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Re: Some good economic data just dropped. SELL!!!
Dec 2, 2022, 9:45 AM
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I thought unemployment stayed the same.
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All-TigerNet [13027]
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Re: Some good economic data just dropped. SELL!!!
Dec 2, 2022, 9:47 AM
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Wages increase as employers try to adjust for inflation, and then the fed does more to fight inflation. Never ending cycle of idiocy.
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Orange Blooded [3615]
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Re: Some good economic data just dropped. SELL!!!
Dec 2, 2022, 9:50 AM
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What do you recommend?
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All-TigerNet [13027]
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Re: Some good economic data just dropped. SELL!!!
Dec 2, 2022, 9:55 AM
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First I would stop the handouts, that is the biggest factor in this mess. Printing money to give to people that do not work; drives up prices for everyone.
Second, I would stop the war on fossil fuels. Most of the inflation is on energy.
Third, I would report unemployment accurately. Currently unemployment only counts people that are "looking" for work, not every able bodied person in America. Lowest unemployment ever, but EVERY place I go has a "help wanted" sign. Something doesn't add up, yet the FED still uses that biased metric to make decisions.
Problem solved.
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Oculus Spirit [97677]
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That's 100% not correct.
Dec 2, 2022, 10:08 AM
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All of the covid stimulus payments (the direct ones) to people, have already been more than offset by higher inflation. I got $2,400. Just this year, I will spend $2,400 MORE in just gasoline, much less food and everything else. I have raised my hourly rate 8% since covid hit, and I'm doing good not to raise it more, only because I have more work than I've had in 22 years.
Furthermore, inflation is worldwide now. Every country (most) have major problems with inflation. Before we heard about inflation you know what we heard about? "Labor shortages". Yep. Everyone seemed to have labor shortages, unexplained. Not that many people died from the pandemic to cause the level of labor shortages. Yet it was not long afterwards that we heard about inflation. It's a supply-driven problem. At the heart of it is a universal decline in worldwide labor, coupled with many countries who have profited for decades on globalism and "free trade" now having not only domestic labor shortages, but shortages on the imports on which they rely. That causes a supply crisis, which causes inflation. Until our collective demand decreases to match a reduced supply of labor (goods and services) we will have inflation. The pandemic pulled the rug out from underneath this system of globalism we've created and thrived on.
This is why the Fed will boost rates even more. Until we stop buying stuff, the TV's, the gadgets, the over-priced coffee, bottled water, etc. until those excesses of free trade and global allocation and distribution of cheap labor, until we can offset the loss of that with reduced demand, inflation will continue.
Overall we made the mistake of "going back to normal", under the assumption that everything would be "back to normal". Right now we have a new normal, which is a $400 metal clip for a headrest on a Honda Odyssey.
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All-TigerNet [13027]
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Re: That's 100% not correct.
Dec 2, 2022, 10:12 AM
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Why does energy have the highest inflation (most around 40%) when we have more of it domestically than anyone?
"Until we stop buying stuff" - Will the student loan hand-out help or hurt this?
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Orange Blooded [3615]
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Re: That's 100% not correct.
Dec 2, 2022, 10:20 AM
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We don't have more domestically than anyone. Our oil reserves aren't even close to being tops.
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Add in Alaska and offshore and those numbers change...***
Dec 2, 2022, 12:53 PM
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Re: Add in Alaska and offshore and those numbers change...***
Dec 2, 2022, 12:54 PM
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Add in all of that and we aren't close.
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Wrong.***
Dec 2, 2022, 12:56 PM
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Re: Wrong.***
Dec 2, 2022, 1:16 PM
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It's absolute fact. It's not even ballpark close either.
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Re: Wrong.***
Dec 3, 2022, 11:04 AM
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US is top 10 in reserves, but could be no. 1 in production...
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Re: That's 100% not correct.
Dec 2, 2022, 10:23 AM
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Are you basing your "40%" inflation from when oil bottomed out due to covid? Lolololol.
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All-TigerNet [13027]
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I thought it was Putin's price hike?
Dec 2, 2022, 10:32 AM
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get your excuses straight.
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Re: I thought it was Putin's price hike?
Dec 3, 2022, 7:14 AM
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You didn't answer the question. Are you basing the "40%" inflation from when oil was bottomed out due to covid? Still waiting.
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Re: That's 100% not correct.
Dec 2, 2022, 10:32 AM
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I wish inflation was only 40% on some of the products our business buys.
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Oculus Spirit [97677]
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Supply and demand. It's really very simple.
Dec 2, 2022, 10:43 AM
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We Americans are (mostly) completely ignorant of our place in the world. We are taught to think we live in a bubble. We don't rely on other countries. We're strong, the world's largest economy, and stand firmly on our own two feet. We are literally trained to think that. We are the world's bank. We use our military dominance to back up the dollar as the world's reserve currency. We then leverage that dollar, through "free trade" and globalism, in a global economy, where we can import goods produced in other countries with cheaper labor, making the price of goods in the US cheaper. We never raise minimum wage, and let in millions of illegals with a wink and a nod (FROM BOTH PARTIES, FOR DECADES) because they help reduce DOMESTIC labor costs. They allow us to have housing booms, and construction booms, and many other things. ALL OF THIS is with a purpose, to DEFLATE the value of labor, of goods, and to increase the buying power and standard of living of Americans, to levels we alone could never sustain.
And any time there's an economic problem, we can just drop lending rates, make debt cheaper, and boom, problem fixed. Not only does this allow us to buy bigger houses, fancier cars, and better food, it also cheapens the price of servicing debt to a level where debt can be used as economic fuel. It can also allow politicians to buy votes. Republicans with lavish military spending, democrats with entitlements. And with a 2% lending rate, or zero, or even 3% (we enjoyed those rates due to all of the above), due to those low lending rates, we can spend on companies that are not profitable, and politicians can spend on their constituents.
The pandemic reset the planet's labor pool. There was a large net loss in labor. And it's not just from lockdowns, but regardless of the cause, there's a massive labor decline worldwide. CHINA has labor shortages, and they have a billion people. Energy always leads inflation, always has, always will. It's the #1 necessity before all others. Food would be next and it's skyrocketing as well. Food and energy are also the planet's most labor intensive commodities. Opec is having trouble meeting their own oil production quotas. They lowered their quotas much to our angst, and they STILL have many countries who can not make their quotas, and this was before Russia invaded Ukraine. Inflation was already topping 7.5% in the US BEFORE Putin invaded Ukraine.
No, Biden's lying when he says the inflation is caused by Russia. No, Janet Yellen is lying when she says we've been splurging. Truth is we've been splurging for decades, and seem to think we can keep on splurging along. Take a peek at the inflation in G20 countries, or even worldwide. There has been a reset, and the countries who opened up first, are seeing declines in inflation, as demand adjusts. Countries late to open up, are still seeing rising inflation. China will see it next year. It's because people think things will go back to normal just because restrictions are lifted. They won't, and that learning curve by the consumer, in countries who import cheaper goods, that learning curve is happening now in many countries.
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All-In [31860]
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it's a globally-traded commodity...
Dec 2, 2022, 1:44 PM
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As a very general statement, the price of oil is based on global supply and global demand. WHERE it's produced isn't nearly as important as how much is produced globally in total.
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Re: That's 100% not correct.
Dec 2, 2022, 10:19 AM
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They are still begging business to take more free Covid money. My son in law says they call almost every day telling him they want to give him $25,000 per employee.
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Oculus Spirit [97677]
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I think I will probably get at least 5 emails today
Dec 2, 2022, 10:45 AM
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Which will be summarily directed into the spam folder, saying much the same.
My business is prequalified for millions in loans it seems.
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Re: I think I will probably get at least 5 emails today
Dec 2, 2022, 10:54 AM
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Yep, the madness needs to stop.
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Re: what free covid money?***
Dec 2, 2022, 1:28 PM
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He’s getting calls practically begging him to take 25k per employee. He says they call several times a week.
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Have you considered it's a scam?? There a lot of companies..
Dec 2, 2022, 1:41 PM
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that say that they "can get your company "covid money" even if you took a PPP loan"...we get calls all the time too. They are mostly scams. They are talking about employee retention credits and going back and claiming them in 2021 (program ended in 2021 completely and for most, before that).
So...what specific "covid money" are you talking about?
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: Have you considered it's a scam?? There a lot of companies..
Dec 2, 2022, 2:53 PM
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As I said my son in law is getting the calls not me. I’ll dig a little deeper.
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Oculus Spirit [80999]
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Stock market will be good the next 6 months.
Dec 2, 2022, 1:43 PM
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Fed will pivot before EOY 2023.
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