GIVE AN AWARD
Use your TNETs™ to grant this post a special award and grant the author bonus TNETs™!


YOUR BALANCE
monetization_on
Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...
Tiger Boards - Clemson Football
add New Topic
Replies: 48  

Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

emoji_events [16]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:18 PM
Reply

.


  Clemson is "Elite" if...    [Results]
 
If nothing. They are currently elite.
They win the ACC this season.
They make the playoffs this season.
They win a playoff game this season.
They win the National Championship this season.
2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpgringofhonor-francismarion.jpg flag link

"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

emoji_events [9]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:19 PM
Reply

Dabo is here, after that we will see

flag link

"Elite" is a relative term completely subjective.

emoji_events [12]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:21 PM
Reply

I am of the Clemson Brotherhood along with all my Clemson Family so I voted we are, in my subjective view as a relative, ELITE.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpgringofhonor-clemsontiger1988-110.jpg flag link

Thank you for participating…

emoji_events [10]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:36 PM
Reply

This is very important.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpgringofhonor-francismarion.jpg flag link

"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Clemson football is elite.

emoji_events [9]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:30 PM
Reply

I base elite on the current status of a program based on recent history.

The elite teams are, in no particular order: Clemson, Bama, UGA, Ohio State

Some teams that used to be elite but are not today: FSU, Miami, Oklahoma, Texas

Elite is very subjective. For me it takes 5 or 6 years where the team is considered on the short list of favorites for the national championship in August and 3 or 4 of those years are still on the short list on Thanksgiving.

military_donation.jpg flag link

I didn't look past the first selection.

[2]
Sep 23, 2022, 6:59 PM
Reply

It suited me so I voted on it.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpgringofhonor-clemsontiger1988-110.jpg flag link

It’s not subjective at all

[2]
Sep 23, 2022, 4:32 PM
Reply

At this point it’s clear - if you are a regular participant in the CFP, you are definitely elite. If you are amongst the first two out of the final four, you may be elite or on the brink of it.

Clemson had been an elite program for six years prior to last season. That performance is obviously elite. Last year we slipped so far that it’s almost inexplicable, although clearly the difference was the utter loss of offensive firepower. Injuries also added to last season’s cliff dive from elite to average.

The immensity of Dabo’s contract extension indicates that Clemson nation is confident that he can take us back to elite. I believe he can, but he may be forced to modify his preferred hiring practices for assistant coaches to get there.

badge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link

Yes, you're being objective but the media is not objective.

[1]
Sep 23, 2022, 7:04 PM
Reply

They proclaim which teams are elite and the public, fools who believe everything ESPiN publishes join the chorus.

They've been putting Texas, USCw, Michigan, Auburn, Florida and TN in the top 25 preseaon polls for over a decade. They say it and the AP voters fight over who agrees the most. Much of the times these teams fall from top 10 preseason to unranked in the end.

Of course we are elite. As you say, we've been an elite team for many years now.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpgringofhonor-clemsontiger1988-110.jpg flag link

No, I didn't say that.


Sep 24, 2022, 12:01 PM
Reply

I said that we were elite up until last year. The extreme drop off last year removed us from that status. Elite teams don't lose to those crappy NC State and Pitt teams... and they don't struggle to beat horrible teams like GT and BC on last second prayers, either.

Clearly at this point, from game one of the 2021 season to now, we are NOT elite. That's clear to anyone who is watching and understands what they are seeing. Dabo has a HUGE job ahead of him and a lot of it involves getting crucial players healthy in our secondary and DL.

badge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link

LOL.***

[1]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:24 PM
Reply



2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Cobbox on Brad Brownell: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Your opinion is more irrelevant than our basketball program under Brad Brownell***

emoji_events [11]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:30 PM
Reply



military_donation.jpg flag link

Congerts -- you have now been "Ignored" by JK...

emoji_events [10]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:23 PM
Reply

you're now in a very select few (but growing rapidly)

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Aspiring member of the TigerNet Sewer Dwellers


Karen trying to protect her pulse.***

emoji_events [6]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:26 PM
Reply



2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Funny, I didn't know that you guys had been TDing me

[2]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:29 PM
Reply

but thanks for letting me know.

You were put on ignore for the content of your posts and nothing else.

HTH.

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Cobbox on Brad Brownell: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


"You were put on ignore for the content of your posts and

emoji_events [6]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:41 PM
Reply

nothing else."

And yet, you're reading and responding to my posts.

I was put on ignore(with a group of others) because you were caught in a lie about the UVA/Clemson basketball game and instead of owning up to it you doubled/tripled down on your LIE.

Tell yourself whatever you'd like, but its becoming more and more clear that few people on this board still believe your BS.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Re: "You were put on ignore for the content of your posts and

[4]
Sep 23, 2022, 7:25 PM
Reply



2022 purple level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpgringofhonor-classof1994.jpg flag link

Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Re: Funny, I didn't know that you guys had been TDing me


Sep 24, 2022, 12:05 PM
Reply

We used to hand out TD’s to known coots, trolls and grievous comments. Now they just do it to those they disagree with and it’s not a good thing.

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

It's amazing how much some of you care about

[1]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:30 PM
Reply

my activity here, to the point that you regularly check who I've ignored.

I'm honored!

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Cobbox on Brad Brownell: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: It's amazing how much some of you care about

emoji_events [6]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:36 PM
Reply

W T F do you feel the need to hijack this board every football season? You only care about basketball but posts 3 times as much during football. It's all backhanded compliments and negativity.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Don't worry, she'll disappear mid basketball season again

[3]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:43 PM
Reply

this year when her precious is still crapping the bed in year 13.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Re: Don't worry, she'll disappear mid basketball season again

[3]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:59 PM
Reply

Unfortunately it will only last around 4 weeks.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

LOL, you don't see the irony in your post do you?***

emoji_events [6]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:44 PM
Reply



2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Obviously not***

emoji_events [5]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:45 PM
Reply



2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Aspiring member of the TigerNet Sewer Dwellers


TIL I lernt JK cares enough to put me on ignore.

[2]
Sep 23, 2022, 7:22 PM
Reply



2022 purple level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpgringofhonor-classof1994.jpg flag link

Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Lol. I’m elite***

[3]
Sep 23, 2022, 3:40 PM
Reply



military_donation.jpg flag link

Come on Bob, keep it clean

[2]
Sep 23, 2022, 5:12 PM
Reply

No one needs to know what this man’s member is doing.

flag link

Re: LOL.***

[2]
Sep 23, 2022, 4:12 PM
Reply



2022 purple level member flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

[3]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:29 PM
Reply

They have to make it to the playoffs.

No question

flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

[2]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:44 PM
Reply

Just to be clear only the top 3% qualify as elite and then only within the season they are playing?

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...


Sep 23, 2022, 5:27 PM
Reply

I think that's slightly too extreme, but the definition of elite is "the best of a class." Elite implies you are presently at the very pinnacle of your area. Top 3% isn't outrageous. Me, I think Clemson has to win the ACC, especially with how terrible the ACC is.

flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

[1]
Sep 23, 2022, 6:18 PM
Reply

That’s why I was asking for clarity. Playoffs is top 3%. His wording makes it sound like Clemson is not currently elite but would be if they make it to the playoffs. I for one think “elite” is broader than one previous season. If you are only elite when you make the playoffs then you’re really only elite for a few weeks. If playoffs is the determinate why are you elite the next season? Cincinnati isn’t elite and I would think it a stretch to say they were elite last year. Unless you just want to substitute the word for “in the playoffs right now.” Given how malleable the concept is, why would any Clemson fan choose a reasonable definition that excludes them?

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

[2]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:30 PM
Reply

If the offense hits their stride and puts 2 halves together.

flag link

Haha

[3]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:33 PM
Reply

So true.

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

GO TIGERS


they score so many times on the coots

[3]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:35 PM
Reply

the new scoreboard short-circuits.

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

I misread. Can I go back and vote again?***

emoji_events [7]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:38 PM
Reply



2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpgringofhonormyfavorange.jpg flag link

No***

[4]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:51 PM
Reply



2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpgringofhonor-francismarion.jpg flag link

"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


My definition of Elite may differ

emoji_events [7]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:44 PM
Reply

It really has less to do with the team you are on and more to do with what you own. I know I have seen several other regulars make the same observation about themselves.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link

Like a sliding board?***

emoji_events [6]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:46 PM
Reply



2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpgringofhonor-francismarion.jpg flag link

"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


please try to stay on topic because

emoji_events [6]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:18 PM
Reply

I am not entirely sure what this has to do with me.

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link

Think of it this way:

emoji_events [7]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:31 PM
Reply

The football facility is the thing we "own" that helps make us elite. Like our Mercedes.

The sliding board in the facility is extra bling...the curb feelers on our Mercedes.

flag link

I have my own sliding bored, thanks

[1]
Sep 23, 2022, 3:00 PM
Reply

https://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=20686668#20686668

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link

Re: My definition of Elite may differ


Sep 23, 2022, 5:31 PM
Reply

I mean, that's objectively not the definition of elite, but you do you. I think this nailed it. https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/ncaaf/acc/2022/09/22/clemson-football-offense-decline-cfp-elite/10425614002/


Clemson is an elite program right now. But to maintain that status, they need a statement this year. I think winning the ACC is enough, but it's not ideal given the fact we're going to lose a lot of ground under NIL, so we need to offer something for these recruits, and that should be championships.

flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

emoji_events [5]
Sep 23, 2022, 1:47 PM
Reply

They walk on the field. Go Tigers!

2022 white level member flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

[4]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:02 PM
Reply

Average teams don’t have entire networks working round the clock to undo their average status, do they?

flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

emoji_events [6]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:07 PM
Reply

What's this "they" crud - shouldn't it be "we"?!

2022 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Class of '87


Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

[2]
Sep 23, 2022, 2:41 PM
Reply

they do not find some stupid woke reason to change the name of the school, the mascot or the team colors.

flag link

As long as they don’t Munson themselves***


Sep 23, 2022, 5:10 PM
Reply



flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...


Sep 23, 2022, 6:06 PM
Reply

If we make the playoff, or we just miss it and are in the discussion, or unless we don't make it, but there is an argument that we should have been there. If it's obvious that we didn't deserve it, then we haven't been elite for 2 years. It's that simple. There are only about maybe up to 6 elite teams each year max. The rest are not elite. They might be good, but not elite.

flag link

Re: Poll: Clemson is "Elite" if...

[1]
Sep 23, 2022, 8:23 PM
Reply

I also went with Option 1 -- Clemson is elite. But to stay elite, the conference championships and playoff appearances must continue ...

2022 purple level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link

Replies: 48  

TIGER TICKETS

FB GAME: NC State
FOR SALE: 1 Ticket to NC State. Sect. UP Row W Seat 35. 45 yd line. Well under the overhang in case of rain. $...

Buy or Sell CU Tickets and More in Tiger Tickets!

Tiger Boards - Clemson Football
add New Topic
1734 people have read this post