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Official website of ACC tiebreaker policy.
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Official website of ACC tiebreaker policy.


Oct 7, 2024, 12:10 PM
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Good luck if you can decipher this.

Someone explain this to me.

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If all the tied teams are not common opponents, the tied team that defeated each of the other tied
teams.
i. If all the tied teams are not common opponents, no tied team defeated each of the other
tied teams, but a tied team lost to each of the other tied teams, such team shall be
eliminated and removed from the tie.
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Forget about the ambiguity of the first sentence. I think I know what they were trying to say, but they said it very poorly.

Look at paragraph i.

Not tied team defeated each of the other tied teams, but one time team lost to each of the other tied teams.

If one of the teams lost to another team, doesn't that mean that one of the teams had to defeat one of the tied teams?

But, assuming three teams finish 8-0 in the ACC, it looks to me like it will go down to tie breaker #5.

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5. Combined win-percentage of conference opponents
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https://theacc.com/documents/2023/5/17/ACC_FOOTBALL_TIEBREAKER_POLICY.pdf

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Oct 7, 2024, 12:13 PM
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In other words...no ACC team controls their own destiny...even if they go undefeated.

That's really really shotty.

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Re: Official website of ACC tiebreaker policy.


Oct 7, 2024, 12:54 PM
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It could be we don’t get in. Is that bad for making the CFP. Maybe not. Definitely would not get a first round bye. But could end up highly ranked with only 1 loss.

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Oct 7, 2024, 12:13 PM
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It sounds like Clemson needs to beat Pitt, and Pitt beat SMU. Then if we dropped a game by some chance we still get in because of rule number 2. And if we didn’t drop a game we still get in and don’t have to worry about rule number 5 lol.

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Oct 7, 2024, 12:17 PM
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Brett - I think ACC lawyers wrote the tie breakers! LOL

My thoughts on it, and I could be 1,000% wrong

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/re-clemson--11-1-and-no-acc-championship-game-35609292#35609292

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Re: Official website of ACC tiebreaker policy.


Oct 7, 2024, 12:58 PM
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The likelihood of all three teams going undefeated in conference play is almost none, especially with how Miami has been playing with fire lately. But yeah, the wording here makes no sense

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Oct 7, 2024, 2:21 PM
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1. Combined head-to-head win-percentage among the tied teams if all tied teams are common
opponents.-----If Clemson beats SMU and Miami but each of them finish with one ACC loss, Clemson goes.
2. If all the tied teams are not common opponents, the tied team that defeated each of the other tied
teams.------If Clemson beats SMU and Miami but Miami doesn't play SMU and they all end up with one loss, Clemson goes.
i. If all the tied teams are not common opponents, no tied team defeated each of the other
tied teams, but a tied team lost to each of the other tied teams, such team shall be
eliminated and removed from the tie.------Written by Jack Kerouac with input from Cheech and Chong.

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Re: Official website of ACC tiebreaker policy.


Oct 7, 2024, 3:06 PM
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None of those teams play each other in the regular season...

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Any way 3 teams could play at one time?


Oct 7, 2024, 2:53 PM
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That might make sense in the ACC kinda like the baseball pool play thingy .

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Oct 7, 2024, 3:04 PM
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I could be wrong but if all 3 win out, and there is no head to head comparison, then the 2 highest ranked ACC teams would play for the championship. Since SMU is so far behind Miami and Clemson currently, they would not jump past either one if everyone keeps winning.

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Re: Official website of ACC tiebreaker policy.


Oct 7, 2024, 3:52 PM
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I'm wrong... never mind

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Re: Official website of ACC tiebreaker policy.


Oct 7, 2024, 3:15 PM
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LMFAO . DOING THAT AFTER 3 GAMES. MAYBE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW FSU CAN GET IN

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Re: Official website of ACC tiebreaker policy.


Oct 7, 2024, 3:30 PM
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Assuming 3 way tie between Clemson/Miami/SMU (not necessarily at 8-0), the first sentence would be like if Clemson beat both SMU and Miami, but Miami and SMU did not play. Clemson would be selected and then tiebreaker restarts to pick between SMU and Miami.

Second sentence is if SMU lost to both Miami and Clemson, but Miami and Clemson did not play. SMU is eliminated so Miami/Clemson are selected.

And yeah, if they all finish 8-0 it would go down to winning percentage of conference opponents (I'm assuming conference win %, but I don't see where it explicitly says that)

I looked at the same thing yesterday, and because I was bored, looked at our opponents. After removing common opponents--
Clemson: NCSt, Stan, WF, UVa, VT, Pitt
Miami: VT, Cal, Duke, GT, WF, Syr
SMU: Stan, Duke, Pitt, BC, UVa, Cal

Or I think an easier way to look at it:
Clemson vs Miami
Clemson: NCSt, Stan, Pitt, UVa
Miami: Cal, Duke, GT, Syr

Clemson vs SMU
Clemson: NCSt, WF, VT
SMU: Duke, BC, Cal

Miami vs SMU
Miami: VT, GT, WF, Syr
SMU: Stan, BC, Pitt, UVa

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