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Is NC State “better” than Wake Forest? Consider this ...
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Is NC State “better” than Wake Forest? Consider this ...

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Sep 27, 2022, 7:57 PM

Wake is 4-1 vs NC State over the past five years.

Last year Wake beat NC State 45-42 ... Wake won the ACC Atlantic Division. Not NC State.

By any rational measure, isn’t Wake Forest obviously the stronger football program.

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No.***

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Re: Yes.***


Sep 27, 2022, 7:58 PM

By what measurement?

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Whoops, misread. Wake is better.


Sep 27, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Re: Whoops, misread. Wake is better.


Sep 28, 2022, 9:13 AM

Coot

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:00 PM

No they are not better than Wake

We should of won last year as bad as we were on offense

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More importantly is Clemson week 5 better than Clemson week 4?

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:01 PM

I hope and think so.

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:03 PM

Last year is not this year and I don't think Wake is better than State. NCS will be the best defense we face all year and their QB can hurt us if we don't get our secondary fixed this week.

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:07 PM

Their QB will not pass for 6 TDs.

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:27 PM

If the weather is as bad as predicted, I don't think either QB will be throwing much.

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:29 PM

And so I do get your point that might negate any concerns about the secondary with fewer opportunities coming their way.

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I don’t think he will pass for 6 TDs.


Sep 27, 2022, 9:26 PM

But to be fair, no one thought Wake’s QB would either.

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Cobbox on Brad Brownell: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


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Sep 27, 2022, 9:24 PM

Just curious, what do you base this assessment on other than “you think”?

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:10 PM

Is it logical that State beat us last year and we beat Wake every year? The only way to compare teams is to play then both so we will find out Saturday night.

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:30 PM

Well, then ... we are 11-2 against NC State over the past thirteen years.

Not sure why there is such a recently bias in thinking NC State is a terrific program all of a sudden because of one win.

But, you’re right ...Saturday night will decide the issue.

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Sep 27, 2022, 9:31 PM

DueWest said:

Well, then ... we are 11-2 against NC State over the past thirteen years.

Not sure why there is such a recently bias in thinking NC State is a terrific program all of a sudden because of one win.

But, you’re right ...Saturday night will decide the issue.




Exactly what I was thinking!

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Football doesn't follow the transitive property.


Sep 27, 2022, 9:29 PM

Wake is 4-1 against NC State the last 5 years. Both teams brought back a bunch of players.

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:15 PM

This sounds like a coot math word problem.

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Are you good at those?***

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Sep 27, 2022, 8:35 PM

Wake’s program is better than NC State in recent years. Wake always over achieves and NC State under underachieves. Wake’s coaching is superior. Low T Dave D just does not have the ‘it’ factor.

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Sep 27, 2022, 9:03 PM

DueWest

Exactly!
Too many people have the mindset that the number in front of a team tells the whole story. It doesn't.

I would also point out that Wake went to Vanderbilt and beat them soundly. Nastee Taint struggled on the road with East Carolina and honestly should have lost that game.

As far as programs go - I think Clawson is a far better coach than Doerean. But, Nastee Taint typically lands better recruits.

You can typically depend on Wake to win games they are supposed to win as well; where you can't say that about Nan-cee stank. They will lose a game or two that will have you scrathing your head pretty often.

IN short, I agree with you Due West!

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Until they play each other


Sep 27, 2022, 9:15 PM

you can only say maybe.

All I care about is we be NC State on Saturday.

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Sep 27, 2022, 10:36 PM

NC State has the 2nd best record in the ACC the past 5 seasons, a distant 2nd mind you lol

Wake Forest really gets up to play NC State just like ECU does so it makes it harder on them.

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But, how many ACC Atlantic titles does NC State have?


Sep 28, 2022, 8:15 AM

When was the last time NC State won more than 9 games?

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Sep 28, 2022, 8:43 AM

Not the right question, all games are about matchups. My questions about State
1) can their QB handle the considerable pressure our line put on Wakes QB. Didn’t get to him much but were in his face all day. Truly impressive performance.
2) will DJ get the protection he got last week, there were plays where I thought he could finish a Monopoly game back there. Not a knock on DJ he had moments under pressure like the two point conversion but it seemed he had a lot of freedom in the pocket most of the day.
3) how many true freshmen we going to have in defense backfield
4) how will our rookie coaches perform? Will we have an effective game plan that effectively deals with the specific strengths and weaknesses of State.
5) can State perform on the road like they did at home last year.

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#2 is my main concern


Sep 28, 2022, 9:22 AM

If their DL whips our OL we could be facing a situation where we can't run the ball and DJ doesn't have time to throw. I'm still not sure our offense can function with DJ under consistent pressure. I've seen enough this year to know DJ can carve people up pretty good when he has time, but he's still looked realllllly shaky under pressure.

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Wake's defence is butter


Sep 28, 2022, 8:44 AM

they were out 3 starting CBs when they played us. Liberty rolled on them as well.

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Which three starting Wake CBs didn’t play last weekend?


Sep 28, 2022, 12:32 PM

Just curious. Especially since they only have two starting CBs to begin with.

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Sep 28, 2022, 9:18 AM

State has a much, much better defense.

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Maybe. But, Wake is much better on offense.


Sep 28, 2022, 12:36 PM

Can’t wait to see how NC State plays this coming weekend.

Lot of our fans seem convinced last year’s game results will somehow affect Clemson this season.

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