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Interesting new info on Omicron


Nov 27, 2021, 5:41 PM
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This should be pretty easy to identify quickly here in the US and in other places. This variant has an s-gene deletion that shows up on PCR testing, and that deletion is unique to it relative to what's going around now. The other testing markers remain unchanged, so PCR testing should remain accurate. But you can extrapolate the positive PCR tests that show this s-gene deletion, where the test is only positive on 2 of the three markers, and from that you can then sequence those samples for Omicron and get a very high percentage chance of finding it. This is what they have done in the Netherlands, etc. In other words it's evading one of the three PCR markers that are standard, and as such you can get a high(er) probability of LIKELY identifying it only from a PCR test.

Just an interesting tidbit. It shouldn't be hard to find, as you can narrow samples to sequence based on the s gene deletion being present in the PCR tests.

The South African NICD has said B.1.1.529 has a deletion within the S gene that allows for rapid identification of this variant.

“However, most other targets (including the N and RdRp genes) remain unaffected from specimens tested in over 100 specimens from testing laboratories in Gauteng so it is unlikely that overall PCR test sensitivity is affected. These PCR tests typically detect at least two different SARS-CoV-2 targets, which serves as a backup in the case of a mutation arising in one,” the NICD said.


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Nov 27, 2021, 8:46 PM
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Someone pointed out earlier today that omicron is a anagram to moronic.

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Nov 28, 2021, 10:39 AM
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The WHO skipped over Nu and Xi to get to Omicron. The WHO says it skipped Nu because the letter is too similar to the word "new" which could have led to confusion.

They skipped Xi because Xi is a common last name and the WHO seeks to "avoid causing offense to any cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups."

At this rate, it's probably a safe bet Chi will be skipped too.

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Yes because omicron is so mild it probably has spread a lot

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Nov 28, 2021, 11:32 AM
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without being noticed

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Let's hope. Really, it is so different than anything before


Nov 29, 2021, 5:13 PM
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could be a cold or airborne Ebola, or anything in between. Also, however mild or severe it is or isn't, being so different means immunity (natural, vaccine, WHATEVER, will likely be impacted). I'm not even sure how they know it is covid even. I mean it is I guess, but how it mutated into this, out of nowhere, even in Africa, just boggles the mind. We have no clue about anything with it as far as I can tell, other than it is spreading person to person, has community spread, and that's about it. Will take weeks to know the real impact. Again, hope it's a cold, but you have to assume it will escape at least some immunity. Kinda makes vaccine or natural covid immunity seem like a huge waste. I mean you get a vaccine, then get covid, think you're "immune" only to have this come up? Maybe it's a cold, and this is the end of it.

Just for comparison, AY.103 is the most common flavor of Delta in the US now. So I compared it to Omicron just to see the differences. Wow. It is more different compared to Delta than Delta is different to the original Wuhan strain. And then some. It is going to be different, with different symptoms for sure. Have a hunch it will either be much less severe, or much more. Just have to wait and see.

https://outbreak.info/compare-lineages?pango=Omicron&pango=AY.103&gene=ORF1a&gene=ORF1b&gene=S&gene=ORF3a&gene=ORF6&gene=ORF7a&gene=ORF7b&gene=ORF8&gene=N&gene=ORF10&gene=M&gene=E&threshold=75&nthresh=1&sub=false&dark=true

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Two links to data from South Africa


Nov 29, 2021, 5:46 PM
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Doesn't really show much, other than it's spreading rapidly, as quickly as delta. We will know in 2-3 weeks what that really means, if anything.

(Click the box for Gauteng)
https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/


Wastewater sample data from Gauteng Province....
https://www.nicd.ac.za/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Wastewater-based-epidemiology-for-SARS-CoV-2-surveillance-in-South-Africa-week-46.pdf

Also, this is interesting. Shows how far off the covid reservation Omicron actually is. As mentioned above, VASTLY different. Let's hope on the good side.



One more thing, this chart showing mutations for Omicron, it's only showing the divergence within the S gene, the spike, from which our vaccines are derived. This is the worry with the vaccines, in a single chart.

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"Interesting new info on Omicron.


Nov 28, 2021, 11:48 AM
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No one cares but the media."


There, I fixed it for you.

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Nov 29, 2021, 8:16 AM
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sounds like a bioweapon

when will fowlchee be arrested!

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