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I never knew yall feel like Kearse, Alexander and others didn't give 100 percent
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I never knew yall feel like Kearse, Alexander and others didn't give 100 percent

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Jan 26, 2022, 2:29 PM

In that national title loss to Alabama.
I made the thread about Kearse success this season and seen a lot of you guys talking about they mailed it in trying not to get hurt because of the pending nfl draft....

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Jan 26, 2022, 2:33 PM

Sorry, my post got cut short,
I definitely feel yall are wrong...if they were concerned about that it sure didn't show in the semi game against Oklahoma because Kearse and MA played extremely well as did the entire secondary...

Also those big plays to Oj Howard was not players not giving effort...it was the scheme and Dabo and BV not making the proper adjustments.....

I really hate how yall are down playing players that were major parts of helping Clemson get to our first title game in decades and helped Pave the way for future success

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Tell 'em u7c coot, no one knows losing better than you

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:28 PM

30-0

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:54 PM

It was JK and Green, not Mack, MA had a bad hamstring and was even questionable to play and aggravated it half way through the game. If Mack doesn’t get hurt we win going away by 10-14.

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Kearse MADE NO EFFORT on the kickoff return. He could


Jan 27, 2022, 9:06 AM

have gotten to the corner, but he just let him go...

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Jan 26, 2022, 2:33 PM

It was obvious for Kearse in that game. Compare Kearse's play in the 2015 title game to Jadar Johnson's in the 2016 title game and you will see a stark contrast. I am pretty sure the 2016 team made it a literal goal within the players to not focus on anything NFL until the season was over. They knew it was a problem the previous year between the players.

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Jan 26, 2022, 2:36 PM


It was obvious for Kearse in that game. Compare Kearse's play in the 2015 title game to Jadar Johnson's in the 2016 title game and you will see a stark contrast. I am pretty sure the 2016 team made it a literal goal within the players to not focus on anything NFL until the season was over. They knew it was a problem the previous year between the players.




So why was he not concerned against Oklahoma?
Kearse was out of position a couple times in that game but on most of those big plays it was alabama exploiting the scheme and laughing as we never made proper adjustments....

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Jan 26, 2022, 2:48 PM

Go watch how he didn’t cover the kickoff on the return for TD towards the end of the game.

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I was told by a couple of people the he and TJ were told


Jan 27, 2022, 9:09 AM

that they needed to PROTECT themselves. You know, with the draft coming up and all...

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Jan 26, 2022, 2:50 PM

Our defense probably could have beat Oklahoma with one hand tied behind our back

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Jan 26, 2022, 8:43 PM

Kearse was projected by some analysts and media sites as a late 1st or 2nd round pick going into the championship game. The championship game ended that.

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Jan 26, 2022, 2:54 PM

Tigertrey, tmello and albert are correct. Don't think anyone is trashing the players per se but after the 2015 Dabo alluded as did other coaches that they learned a lot about focus and preparation from the 15 playoff games.

Several players on social media pointed out how after the ACC champ game that certain players were more focused on their draft stock than game prep. Dabo ain't letting that happen again.

I love them both and

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Jan 27, 2022, 8:32 AM

Through his whole career at Clemson, I got the feeling that Kearse relied too much on his athletic ability. I think at the time that he always thought that he could kick it into a higher gear and make the play when he needed to. I don't think the last few games were any different. I just think that he ran into players that were too talented to take that attitude with.

I always thought that I could cram the night before a test and learn the material. Most of the time I was right, but sometimes you learn the hard way that to be successful at the highest levels takes constant effort.

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I don’t know why anyone would think Alexander didn’t give 100% in that game.

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Jan 26, 2022, 2:54 PM

When he went out that was the biggest difference in that game. We had the better team.

Now I can completely understand the knock on Kearse. I recall the next season that Jadar Johnson said it was a problem without naming names.

However, I will say that I am grateful to Kearse for choosing Clemson.

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:03 PM

Where did this post come from. What year is it? These guys are onto the NFL having good careers already. Like years into their careers. Hello 2022. Just having some fun with you. Got to go get my parachute pants out the dryer now. Have a good one.

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:05 PM

Agreed, I thought MA was playing well until he got hurt and was a big blow to us. I was at the game and from my vantage point Kearse took some bad angles. I would have to rewatch video to determine if he was not giving 100%.

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:26 PM

kctigs81 said:

Agreed, I thought MA was playing well until he got hurt and was a big blow to us. I was at the game and from my vantage point Kearse took some bad angles. I would have to rewatch video to determine if he was not giving 100%.


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Agreed, I thought MA was playing well until he got hurt and was a big blow to us. I was at the game and from my vantage point Kearse took some bad angles. I would have to rewatch video to determine if he was not giving 100%.



Kearse made a few bad plays...and a few times was just out done by great talent on bama...

People are purposely ignoring that BV got completely out coached and embarrassed in that game....though he did readjust and learn from it....our defensive coaching staff lost us that football game

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:45 PM

Kearse didn't play hard in the last 3 or 4 games. Against OKIE he layed off QB and shied away from tackles he acted like he had shoulder problems.

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Jan 27, 2022, 8:41 AM

KCTIGER said:

Kearse didn't play hard in the last 3 or 4 games. Against OKIE he layed off QB and shied away from tackles he acted like he had shoulder problems.



This^^^^...Kearse started making business decisions 1/2 to 3/4 the way through the year...it was as obvious as I've ever seen...not saying we lost a game because of it but it was certainly there at times during the later part of the season ... Green I thought there a few plays where there was some grey area but gave him the benefit of the doubt because I don't like thinking it or saying it unless you are sure ... probably because I played myself and wouldn't want someone doing that about me...but kearse was obvious at times!!! I never saw anything from anyone else and not sure why Macs name got brought up at all...he played hurt in the Natty game and had every excuse to not even dress out but he tried to go!!!

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Jan 27, 2022, 1:19 PM

He had 8 tackles against Oklahoma including 6 solo tackles and he had 2 against Alabama. So there was a drop in tackles from one game to the next. Green led the team in tackles in both games including 10 against Oklahoma and 11 against Bama.

I could buy into either or both players not being focused enough during preparation to the game and that contributing to being out of position on some plays which in itself is bad. I don't really buy into them playing in the game and purposely allowing the other team to make big plays simply because they didn't want to risk being hurt by making a tackle. Why get involved in any tackles to begin with in that case, especially with the high number of tackles made by Green? I also think players are too competitive to do that, especially to be right there with a chance to win a NC. I think if the attitude was to avoid injury that each player could've just faked an injury or something.

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:51 PM

Better question is why are you starting a 2nd thread about the same ####?

Clemson fans don't think MA mailed it in. Kearse absolutely mailed it in and he mailed it in before the title game. Remaining players on the team the following year did in fact come out and say there were players in Clemson v/s Bama Part 1, that mentally checked out of college and into the NFL. Kearse was the poster child for doing so.

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You just contradicted yourself...First you say MA didn't


Jan 26, 2022, 5:48 PM

mail it in, then you said he was the poster child for mailing it in...Pick a lane guy

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Jan 26, 2022, 8:14 PM

Didn’t mean MA….it’s now corrected

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Jan 27, 2022, 1:22 PM

Someone in the other thread made a post accusing Alexander of faking the injury during the NC game to avoid getting hurt for real.

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Some times you have to give the other team credit

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:44 PM

even though I can't stand them

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Jan 27, 2022, 6:39 AM

Nah... we would rather throw our own players under the bus.

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Alexander got hurt in the Orange Bowl and tried to play in

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:48 PM

Glendale. He played the first half and could not play the second half. I think he got pulled. Had he played the second half, I think we win that game. Kearse, I've heard the talk, but don't know for sure if he made business decisions. Just not really sure about him. I would have to go back and look at that game again.

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:53 PM

I appreciate all that Alexander and Kearse did for our team and am very happy they are making some cash in the NFL. I do remember some talk after the game but considering all the players on other teams who totally sit out in prep for the nfl, I'm happy for all the effort they did give.
I think that the ESPN (or was it NFL?) Video about Alexander's family was one of the most moving things I've ever seen. Called something like, From the Groves. About his poverty upbringing with Haitian immigrant parents who work the fields, I hope he makes a trillion bucks!

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:55 PM

Tough to say they did not give 100%, unless they tell you.
Guys have bad games and pressure may have gotten to them. Don't dump on those guys....
They did not cost us the game.

We had huge mistakes that night, just like the West Virginia Orange Bowl.
The difference was DW4 and the offense fought back every time.
Between their Tight End (O.J. Howard) running free, the Onside Kick and Kickoff return, we would have lost by MORE if not for the play of the offense.
We beat them all over the field, but made too many mistakes that night!

The Clemson team did not give up that night, we just ran out of time!

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Jan 26, 2022, 4:07 PM

Plus if Pinion had come back for his senior year, there would not have been a kickoff return for a TD.mi also agree if Alexander had not got hurt, we would have won the game.

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Jan 27, 2022, 6:24 AM

JK and Green, not MA. Mac always seemed to give great effort when healthy. JK, not so much. JK played flag football much of his last year and busted a LOT of coverages. Not impressed with his attitude at all.

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