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I find it both sad and predictable that a player entering the transfer portal

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Posted: May 13, 2021, 11:09 PM
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who played in 7 games last year, averaged 4.7 minutes a game, averaged 1.1 points per game on 33% shooting, and 1 rebound per game, created such an uproar here.

Some of the reactions here made it seem like he was going to be a major factor in our success next year, but since he is transferring it is being used by our “fans” to criticize our program.

If I didn’t know better, I would wonder if some posters here are using it as a reason to whine and complain, and nothing else.

I was excited about seeing him get more minutes next year, and feel that he has good potential, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves in acting like this was a big deal. Let’s also give our staff an opportunity to fill his position. After all, they have already shown this offseason that they can use transfers to upgrade talent (e.g., Collins to replace Trapp/Newman, and Bohannon to replace Prosper).

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Posted: May 13, 2021, 11:16 PM
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I find it sad but not predictable that your response to this situation is to start a new thread solely devoted to trashing a former player. And that is exactly what this is. Completely unacceptable for someone who supposedly leads the pro-Brownell / pro-Clemson basketball parade. We’ve lost 2/3rd of the vaunted recruiting class that you constantly site as proof that things are on the upswing. Promote Brownell. Explain how you know we’re gonna be fine. But don’t you dare trash a player (especially one you’ve spend a year hiding behind as proof that things are going in the right direction) and pretend to be some model fan and supporter of this program. Absolutely disgusting and exactly why I can’t abide your presence. But anyway - Go Brownell! Go Clemson ?? !

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 6:43 AM
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Mainstream media's playbook. You'll criticize negativity just so you can throw a double heap of your own gripe in the exact same way.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 7:46 AM
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I find it interesting that your poast insinuates the player wasn’t very good, and then how you were excited to see him play and gain more time as he had great potential and would improve. Then speak about how the staff instead of keeping and developing players replace talent with talent. If they replace a bot so good player that has potential to develop but never develops because he transfers in a year or only has a year left, all your doing is replacing apples for apples. How is that positive. It’s not. It’s just lateral moves to make it look like things are happening.

Every statement you made contradicts itself in its own logic. Some may say they are oxymoronic.

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I’m not trashing a player.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:55 PM
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And you know it.

Kidd’s stats are what they are. If you think he was going to go from largely being a non contributor last year, to a superstar next year, you’re wrong.

What’s funny is that plenty of people dogged him last year as if he were a bust, but now that he’s leaving they act like he is amazing, solely because they think it helps the anti-Brownell movement.

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Not trash maybe but you have no problem coming down on

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:23 PM
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the kid, and don't say you didn't intend to throw shade on his game by rattling off his stats the way you did. Brownell routinely throws his kids under the bus after losses instead of taking the heat himself, so I guess one shouldn't expect much different from his biggest fan.

It's a shame Brownell is no longer a player development kind of coach. Trying hard to figure what he's actually good at these days.

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I wasn’t throwing shade at Kidd.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:25 PM
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I was throwing shade at some of the supposed basketball fans here.

HTH.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:39 PM
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You don't denigrate fans.

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/i-have-not-denigrated-clemson-fans-28893073


And please don't say they aren't synonyms without consulting a thesaurus.




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I haven’t denigrated our fans.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:19 PM
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Denigrating means unfairly criticizing. I don’t think my criticism of those fans who don’t support our team is unfair.

I believe in supporting any player or coach who represents Clemson. I don’t think the people overreacting about Kidd transferring, or who use it as an excuse to criticize our program, are supporting the program well. That’s obviously my opinion, and others are free to disagree.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:31 PM
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no, it doesn't mean that;

Definition of denigrating
: tending or serving to insult or belittle someone
a denigrating stereotype

whether you think your opinion is "fair" or not has not basis in whether it is denigrating and you most certainly do it. And you most certainly were denigrating Kidd. You can support the coach without dismissing the contributions of the player. You don't need to mention the player. Even by your limited standards this is a massive fail.

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Oh boy...

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:49 PM
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First the dictionary was wrong, now it's the thesaurus...

"I was throwing shade at some of the supposed basketball fans here." JK

1) Throw shade
US slang
: to express contempt or disrespect for someone publicly especially by subtle or indirect insults or criticisms

Synonyms: DISPARAGE, DIS

2) Denigrate - verb
Definition of denigrate
transitive verb

1: to attack the reputation of : DEFAME
denigrate one's opponents
2: to deny the importance or validity of : BELITTLE
denigrate their achievements

Synonyms:
DIS (also diss) [slang], DISPARAGE


3) Dis:

dis noun (1)
variants: or less commonly diss
Definition of dis (Entry 2 of 5)
1slang : a DISPARAGING remark or act

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:39 PM
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I read it as you putting Kidd's game down, which you did. But that surely shouldn't stop you from running down Clemson fans who don't share the same unbridled and unquestioning love and loyalty to Brownell alongside.

Carry on.

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Don’t you think our coaches deserve our support?

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:15 PM
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They haven’t had a chance to fill the spot Kidd occupied. Moreover, no one here seems to care about the circumstances surrounding Kidd’s departure. No, the default assumption is that our coach is an idiot, and that this spells doom for our program.

Stating his stats isn’t passing judgment on his game. It’s stating his stats. Do you suggest using another metric to the evaluate his performance last year and project what he might have done next year?

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:41 PM
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his freshman year stats are irrelevant. He was 1/3 of Brad Brownell's best recruiting class. A recruiting class you have touted on this board dozens, if not hundreds of times, as proof positive that the program was moving in a different, positive direction. All your arguments for Brownell have always tacitly admitted that the first years of his tenure weren't great. The new facilities and run to the Sweet 16 were supposed to mark the beginning of the real Brownell era. Obviously I'm paraphrasing but this is the gist of your entire argument that has been expounded here ad nauseum. Now, that "Top 20" class that you love to point to is down to a single player. Somehow you refuse to acknowledge that or resolve that contradiction - that his best class (which you said was important to seeing the obvious improvement in recruiting) has been decimated but everything is still just as perfect as before. In reality his recruiting (or how well it was ranked) must not ever have really mattered to you. If it never mattered but you insisted it did why should anyone take anything you say seriously? Please reconcile your insistence that our Top 20 recruiting class mattered but that losing 2/3rd of them doesn't. I'd love to see it.

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Re: I’m not trashing a player.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 6:52 PM
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When a coach does not develop or play a 4 star player - when we had no inside game - it is hard to get stats or develop.
Do you agree?

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Posted: May 16, 2021, 8:49 AM
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Fully agree on all your points

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You're not understanding what's going on here. At all.

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Posted: May 13, 2021, 11:35 PM
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This isn't about losing a marginally impactful player. Nor is this about losing multiple players really. This is about the agony of a long suffering, loyal fanbase that feels it has been abandoned and given the finger by the university.

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This isn't about losing a marginally impactful player. Nor is this about losing multiple players really. This is about the agony of a long suffering, loyal fanbase that feels it has been abandoned and given the finger by the university.



Give me a break. The agony of a long suffer fan base that has been given the finger by the university?

Are you talking about keeping brownell? Or the fact that until the last 4 years, we had the worst history, worst facilities, and worst fan base (by a long shot) in the ACC.

There is a reason why Clemson basketball has been historically terrible and it’s not because of brownell.

Everyone wishes we would have performed better over the last 10 years. But over the last 5 years we have outperformed our expectations. We are 5th in the ACC in wins over the last 5 years and are only behind behind Duke, UNC, FSU, and UVA. Those are all national championship caliber teams. I hope to get there at some point but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Us having 3 transfers is not abnormal this year. Every team has a ton of transfers. They were all from people that didn’t contribute last year and probably wouldn’t have started this upcoming year. Lynn Kidd is an upcoming freshman center. Hall C that is a sophomore. I think hall was better and Lynn kids would have been a back up until he was a senior.

Guess what? I wouldn’t be surprised if honor or Dawes transfers either. They are each rising junior PGs. I happen to both think they are guards that could start on a ton of teams.

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??????? In the last 5 years you are praising, we have

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:27 PM
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finished 12th, 3rd, 8th, 9th, and 5th in our conference. We advanced past the first round of the NCAA tournament once and finished ranked once. It could be worse, but that's not good by any stretch of anybody's imagination. On an objective scale, it's pretty bad. It's even worse when you consider it's years 7 thru 11 of a coach's tenure. It's certainly not worthy of praise. We have such a poor history in basketball and have been beat down for so many years, many of our fans have simply given up and have pathetically low expectations, and therefore view Brownell's objectively mediocre tenure as some great accomplishment, and have twisted it into some kind of big step forward. For these folks, the reality is just too painful, I guess. My position is this: We can continue along the dizzying heights of mediocrity we've experienced over the past 5-11 years, or we can choose a different direction in hopes of being better.

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finished 12th, 3rd, 8th, 9th, and 5th in our conference. We advanced past the first round of the NCAA tournament once and finished ranked once. It could be worse, but that's not good by any stretch of anybody's imagination. On an objective scale, it's pretty bad. It's even worse when you consider it's years 7 thru 11 of a coach's tenure. It's certainly not worthy of praise. We have such a poor history in basketball and have been beat down for so many years, many of our fans have simply given up and have pathetically low expectations, and therefore view Brownell's objectively mediocre tenure as some great accomplishment, and have twisted it into some kind of big step forward. For these folks, the reality is just too painful, I guess. My position is this: We can continue along the dizzying heights of mediocrity we've experienced over the past 5-11 years, or we can choose a different direction in hopes of being better.



So you think brownell should be fired after the year we had? Again, we had a great regular season. We beat a record 8 NCAA tourney teams. We only lost to 2 teams in the regular season that we shouldn’t have lost to.

We lost 2 games at the end of the season and that was extremely disappointing, but it’s 2 games. With what we are returning even with this most recent transfer we should be an ncaa tourney team. You want to fire a coach that just got us to the tourney and returning a team that should make it again?

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 8:27 PM
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No, I thought he should have been fired after year five, when it had been clearly established that he had taken the program in a downward direction from where it was when he took it over.

It's ridiculous that this has to be repeated over and over, but somehow people have deluded themselves into the absurd idea that Brownell has done an outstanding job at Clemson, so let's clear that right up.

In 11 seasons at Clemson:

Conference Championships: 0
Conference Championship Game Appearances: 0
Losing record in conference: 95-99
Average finish in conference: 7th
Highest finish in conference: 3rd
Finished in bottom half of conference: 6 seasons (more than half of the time)
NCAA Tournament appearances: 3
Advanced past 1st round of NCAA Tournament: 1
Finished ranked in top 25: 1

Those are the facts. It's bad, and there is no way to spin that into greatness. At best, it's consistent, mind-numbing mediocrity, with an ocassional blip into "good". Last season, we made the NCAA tournament, so no, I did not expect him to be fired, even though I think it still could be fully justified based on the above. I'll go ahead and predict for the upcoming season, the same thing I predicted for last season: Finishing mid-pack or lower in the ACC, with a slim, outside shot at the NCAA tournament, and getting bumped in the 1st round if we do. Absolutely no reason to expect any different.

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If anyone is being abandoned, it’s the Clemson basketball program


Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:01 PM
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being abandoned by people who claim to love and support Clemson.

The whining, moaning, and complaining here about Clemson basketball has reached epic proportions. Having a good regular season doesn’t count because we lost a few games in a row. Finishing well in the ACC doesn’t count because the ACC is awful. Making the NCAA Tournament doesn’t count because we lost in the first round. And replacing transfers with transfers who seem to be more talented doesn’t count because we shouldn’t lose anyone to transfer if our coach is doing his job.

And fans can’t be inconvenienced to show up with regularity because our team plays too boring and isn’t entertaining enough.

Our basketball program is in good shape. Our fan base isn’t, if some of the basketball posts here are any indication.

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So what was the Fan-Base's win / loss record last season?

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:03 PM
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TIA

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:08 PM
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I don't follow?

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^ SCofU's president was just fired for doing this.***

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TBH, it's largely smug know-it-alls like yourself,


Posted: May 14, 2021, 3:53 PM
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relentlessly running fans and alum down over differences in opinion, that bring out some of the more angst and animosity over the Brown L tenure. You've said I complain about the Brown L a lot - I actually don't, and you will be hard pressed to hear anything negative from me before or during a season about any aspect of the team. Better luck next time for the losses and way to go team for the W's. I sure don't complain about our talent level or recruiting or anything related to that because that's just a way to slight the kids who are in the program, ultimately who this is all for. I will however respond in kind to your insults and denigrations of fellow fans as they occur, which I guess is often enough to have you confused on the issue.

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If every year we increase our talent,

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 9:07 PM
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why are we worse than when OP left? Why didn't the record improve?

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Posted: May 15, 2021, 9:28 PM
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Having a good regular season doesn’t count because we lost a few games in a row. Finishing well in the ACC doesn’t count because the ACC is awful.

You think this was a good season, and this was a good finish in the ACC. The reasoning is, you can't fire a coach after such a good season, or move in a new direction after all of that success. Is 5th place, unranked, and getting bumped in the first round good enough into perpetuity? For me, it's not, especially given the total lack of championships or even top 10 finishes. But, many, apparently, would be perfectly content with never, ever being better than 5th place. I just can't get my head around that kind of apathy, that kind of total loser mentality.

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Posted: May 13, 2021, 11:43 PM
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When asked about transfer Lynn Kidd, Brownell responded “Kidd, your an a## hole, a lazy piece of shi#.......#### you” Coach Brad Brownell

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 8:40 AM
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You’re**

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 12:04 AM
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Yeah, because no Freshman ever improved significantly between year one and year two. No shade, but you REALLY make it worse on yourself. I hate any kid leaves Clemson, in any sport, but oh well. I'm sure we can find another guy to help lose in the first round of the ACC tournament.

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I’m not saying that he wouldn’t have improved.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:08 PM
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I think he would’ve taken a step forward next year. He has good size and good skills. I was looking forward to seeing him contribute more.

But this isn’t a big loss, especially if we can find someone else to fill his roster spot who we think can be as good or better.

Here’s an idea, let’s give our coaches an opportunity to find a replacement via the transfer market or via recruiting before we overreact. Have you wondered why some people here can’t do that? Hint: it’s because they are negative people who have lost perspective, and/or aren’t really Clemson basketball fans.

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Even my dog has lost respect for you...

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and he gave you a TD...

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:58 AM
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What's even more sad and predictable is how easily people fall for your trolls every few days when you clearly crave the attention it brings you. What's amusing is at one point I didn't understand why people constantly called you out after losses and such. I realize now its because you have a certain smugness some people just don't like. If you loved the team and Brad so much it wouldn't matter at all to you how others felt about them.

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It’s not hard.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 6:57 AM
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So did Brownell miss on his evaluation of his “best” recruiting class since they played so little or can he not coach up and improve players? You can’t honestly praise his recruiting of this class and then trash them when they leave as insignificant and keep your integrity. And how do you build a significant program by portaling for players year to year?

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:13 PM
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Are you saying that if Brownell is a good recruiter, he won’t lose any players to transfer?

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 2:55 PM
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Don’t know if you don’t understand or are being deliberately obtuse. I’m saying you and others praised this recruiting class as a sign of Brad’s recruiting prowess and evidence that the program was heading in the right direction. But when these same players leave, you say well they didn’t play much and are no great loss. Which is it? Either his misevaluated the talent when he recruited them, or he couldn’t develop them for more minutes and effective playing time. I’m not talking about the portal overall, but this specific class. But I think you know that and are trying to deflect and change the subject.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 7:25 AM
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I would say it is also sad and predictable how you spin everything. When you have that much turnover then that means these players don’t want to play for their coach. Reminds me of the ACC tournament and NCAA tournament games when it appeared the team didn’t want to play for their coach. No way you can spin these transfers as being all positive. And your response was predictable.


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I would say it is also sad and predictable how you spin everything. When you have that much turnover then that means these players don’t want to play for their coach. Reminds me of the ACC tournament and NCAA tournament games when it appeared the team didn’t want to play for their coach. No way you can spin these transfers as being all positive. And your response was predictable.


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To the average fan like yourself who wants results but does not really follow basketball other than headlines, the turnover seems terribly high. But for a seasoned fan who digs a little deeper would realize this is the current state of basketball where players on average transfer 1-2 times during their college career. It literally has nothing to do with CBB and everything to do with the mindset of this generation.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 8:55 AM
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So you're saying the average college basketball player switches teams 1-2 times?

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Of college basketball.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 9:00 AM
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Shut up grandpa. Go chase some kids off your lawn with that generational bs.

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First of all I don’t “just follow the headlines”.

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I also don’t know of many other teams on the rise that have as much outflow into the portal. So I find little value in your post.

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How is it spinning things to state that we just lost a player to transfer


Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:23 PM
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who played a grand total of 33 minutes all year, who scored 8 points and pulled town 7 rebounds for the entire season, and that this isn’t something to freak out about - especially since our coaches have shown that they can get good players in the portal who provide a talent upgrade over who they replace?

When you look across the landscape of college basketball, you’ll see that many teams have lost more players to transfer than we have. Obviously we would like to not lose any, but players being able to transfer so easily these days makes it nearly impossible for players to not wonder if the grass might be greener on the other side.

I saw a different team last year than you did. I saw a team that consistently played hard and had a great record in games decided by 5 points or less. That’s the mark of a group of players who are cohesive and who play hard.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 4:01 PM
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Dissect my post. I did not comment on the season. I commented on two games specifically. And please share which teams that are at the top or trying to improve that have as much turnover. Telling me that Arkansas state university for instance has a lot of turnover wouldn’t really sway my opinion any. And not saying you are arguing this, however, those arguing one and dones aren’t talking about Clemson basketball. We don’t have people coming in playing a year and going pro. So those even mentioning in the same argument aren’t helping their arguments. Again I haven’t seen you say that but others are lumping them together.

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Both Kidd and Prosper had a great upside to them both I believe listed in top 100 players You just can’t discount losing these type 4 star players and replacing with 3 star guys

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 9:06 AM
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They’re 2/3 of why we were told we need yet more patience with Brownell. They were supposed to be the nucleus of Brad’s “upswing”. 3 freshman recruited post renovations and Sweet 16 appearance that signaled what Brad was truly capable of. They were the equivalent of our 2009 football class - the start of a team that should improve every year with ever increasing quality depth because we had turned a corner. Guess we’ll be getting a whole new narrative now.

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They’re 2/3 of why we were told we need yet more patience with Brownell. They were supposed to be the nucleus of Brad’s “upswing”. 3 freshman recruited post renovations and Sweet 16 appearance that signaled what Brad was truly capable of. They were the equivalent of our 2009 football class - the start of a team that should improve every year with ever increasing quality depth because we had turned a corner. Guess we’ll be getting a whole new narrative now.

YOU KNOW YOUR TEAM IN COOTERVILLE HAD 5 OR 6 TO LEAVE. MAYBE YOU SHOULD FOCUS YOUR ATTENTIONS ON YOUR TEAM.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 9:56 AM
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viztiz® said:

They’re 2/3 of why we were told we need yet more patience with Brownell. They were supposed to be the nucleus of Brad’s “upswing”. 3 freshman recruited post renovations and Sweet 16 appearance that signaled what Brad was truly capable of. They were the equivalent of our 2009 football class - the start of a team that should improve every year with ever increasing quality depth because we had turned a corner. Guess we’ll be getting a whole new narrative now.




You tell'em coot!

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 8:11 AM
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Well said. I thought Kidd could play a big role in a few years but not much this year. There are many chances to improve that back up role still in the portal.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 9:20 AM
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THERE ARE REASONS KIDD AND PROSPER DID NOT PLAY MUCH. THEY HAD OLDER AND BETTER PLAYERS IN FRONT OF THEM. THERE ARE ALSO REASONS WHY THEY WOULD HAVE PLAYED MUCH MORE THIS YEAR. THEY WOULD BE A YEAR OLDER AND THE PLAYERS IN FRONT OF THEM ARE GONE BUT KIDS TODAY DO NOT SEE THE BIG PICTURE. THEY WANT INSTANT GRATIFICATION. SAD REALLY.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 8:12 AM
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I think just see how things shake out. College BB is transfer land right now everywhere. However, we really only have one inside player on the roster as Tyson is more of an outside player. He plays hard but would get overmatched if we have to play him inside. And it's been shown, we can't rely on the freshmen as our freshmen need development time. We certainly need a couple more big men to transfer in or it's not going to be pretty next year.

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There were two threads on the subject...

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 9:51 AM
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on the front page, the Tnet article and your post. Not sure that qualifies as an “uproar”.

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Not true. There were multiple threads about this very topic.


Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:30 PM
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Some of those threads had many responses.

HTH.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 1:44 PM
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then you are correct.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 10:01 AM
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Losing two-thirds of your best recruiting class in 11 years cannot be good. I don't know about an "uproar", but it is natural to get "concerned" which is what most people are here on this forum IMHO.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 3:09 PM
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Entirely insufferable.
And you refuse to be held accountable to previous statements.

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 7:12 PM
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It might not be such a big deal if our team wasn’t a revolving door of transfers in and out. It also might not be such a big deal if this wasn’t another kid ranked in the top 100 that we failed to develop. Brad Brownell has been a terrible evaluator of talent. We have brought in numerous highly ranked players that end up sucking ###!

Your lack of reality and total lack of any type of context with your constant defense pf Brad Brownell makes me wonder if you are Brad Brownell or what the #### does he have on you? Is he blackmailing you? Because it’s completely irrational to defend him and this program at this point to the extent that you do! You remind me of people that were defending Larry Shyatt. You remind me of people that were defending Tommy Bowden to the bitter end!

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Do you think the judge cups Brad's basket balls?


Posted: May 14, 2021, 9:18 PM
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Maybe carries the basket balls. Definitely palms them.

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What a bunch of hypocritical bull manure


Posted: May 14, 2021, 8:34 PM
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Just weeks ago you were lauding Kidd and talking about his potential going forward. Now that’s he’s gone, you throw him under the bus. Brad Brownell Blame Shifting 101.

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1 ppg?

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 9:14 PM
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That would nake him one of our leading, returning scorers, so yeah, we're pizzed.

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What does...

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Posted: May 14, 2021, 9:48 PM
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“nake him” mean?

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Orange rods are involved.

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Don’t google it at work.

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