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Topic: How long will it take before NIL becomes the cancer that divides the locker room, and
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How long will it take before NIL becomes the cancer that divides the locker room, and

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Jun 15, 2021, 3:54 PM
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changes the culture Dabo and his staff worked so hard to build.?? Or do you think it will have an affect??

IMO the reason states are in favor of the NIL rule / law for college sports. It should be an additional tax revenue for the state, and should benefit the Clemson economy. Players will have more to spend. I just do not see how this will not in someway cause divisiveness and clicks on and off the field between players. Once the lid is off of this destructive addition to college sports there is no going back. I also believe it will be a huge distraction for So Called Student Athletes. I can see it now some player’s may be hiring marketing firms, or marketing / PR reps to set up autograph shows, help market them and their image. Where will the line be drawn. If we take photos of athletes at games to we have to get their permission. How will the haves and have nots get along. Will programs have to hire new personal just to handle the NIL compensation for players. Will the players be taxed immediately or will they be considered 1099 contractors where they will have to pay estimated taxes. I just see so many more negatives and very few positives that will come from this new rule. I hope I am as wrong as I have ever been. Unfortunately money tends to change people.

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I'd say the first Monday after....

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Jun 15, 2021, 3:58 PM
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a weekend in which an O-Lineman gets paid $50 for a kid's birthday party, while the QB he blocks for got paid $25,000 for hanging out at a dealership.

It's gonna get ugly.

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:02 PM
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Great point. The lineman opening up holes for the RB or QB to break a long run might start to get old as the RB or QB get the headlines, interviews and $$$$. What about the scout team that but their butts to make the stars better. IMO eventually there will be division created. It’s human nature.

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Re: I'd say the first Monday after....

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:04 PM
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It is not good for college football

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:09 PM
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It’s a heart breaker watching something you have loved and watched for so many years being blown up right before your eyes. Sports use to be my outlet from a hard days work, now sometimes is just not worth watching.

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:37 PM
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Amen to this.

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Jun 16, 2021, 7:30 AM
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Not a heartbreaker for the kids who are providing billions of dollars of value to television channels and their alma maters. College football has been pro-farm league football for roughly the past 60 years, so let's not kid ourselves.

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A Person has the right

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:42 PM
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To profit off their own image. It was always unamerican to deny it.

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Jun 15, 2021, 11:09 PM
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Yes and no. I’m a pretty radical libertarian and capitalist pig, but these are amateurs and getting paid breaks the amateur status. And the truth is they are getting paid. Ask any student who gets student loans and works a job if athletes are being exploited and not getting paid. Next they will be getting paid more than a stipend and that will destroy college athletics because with Title IX every athlete is going to have to make the same amount of money. It’s going to destroy athletic departments and tons of sports will be cut and girls and minorities will be the people hurt the most. Far less people will get an athletic scholarship. This will hurt the very people that the Dems and the people on the left pushing for this say they care about.

What they should do is, if we have to have NIL, is the money should go in a trust and they are not allowed to access that money until they are no longer playing college sports. A fixed flat amount could be disbursed monthly, say $500, and $1000 to their family. But That would make too much sense, which is why it won’t happen!

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Jun 15, 2021, 6:20 PM
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It'll be Even worse than that. Most college players won't even get that $50 and guys like Trevor will have access to millions of dollars via a variety of routes. 90% of the locker room making nothing while the top couple of guys are literally millionaires is going to create a new dynamic the coaches will have to deal with.

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:06 PM
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The only way that I could ever see this being beneficial for the program, it would have to be agreed on as shared funding for all the team members, and if not, if will destroy college sports that we know and love. And it will open the doors for semi pro FB teams that will be recruiting much of the same players that are recruited out HS like colleges do now.

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Socialism brings people together, you say?***

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:24 PM
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Shared income won't work, either....

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:35 PM
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it's like socialism.

If the stars get all (most) of the money because they're the ones that are popular, then the less popular players will resent it.

But - if all the money goes into a pool and is divided equally, the stars will complain about having to pull the load for the rest of the team.

You know - it's sorta like our present political argument of whether we're going to follow the ideals of socialism or capitalism.

The best way is to keep the money out of the hands of amateur athletes - but it looks like that horse is out and running.

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Jun 15, 2021, 4:51 PM
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What’s tragic is those at the top of the college football pyramid making all of these idiotic decisions have no idea what they are doing to a sport that has United fans, friends, family and even advisories. HS and College Football has been a solid foundation and a major part of the country, especially the South. Now it is being demolished over the almighty $$$$. Money that will benefit a minority group of people. I say to those who will line their pockets beware of Karma. When it comes back around it can be He$$! I am not including the HS and college players because I think they are pawns in a game most are not mature enough to help light the fuse. Most still play for the love of the game.

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Jun 15, 2021, 10:15 PM
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The same leftist morons who have pushed for this are the same ones who consider a free college education to be of no Value to mostly minority players. Got to keep them dumb, broke amd voting Democrat and this system will ultimately do exactly that to most players. If these same clowns had their way college programs wouldn't exist at all and those thousands of young minority players would never set foot on a college campus. They would go directly into a minor league system which would result in most of them getting a few bucks then being out of football altogether within a couple of years with nothing, including a college education, to show for it. Yet these scumbags claim to want what's best for players? Give me a break. They are working for the agents and the networks who will benefit from this system and couldn't care less about the 99% of players who would be worse off in this kind of system.

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We've been by hedging toward socialism for the last 30 years or so...


Jun 16, 2021, 7:28 AM
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As our politicians are beholden to the liberal banking financiers & their economic model-

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Jun 16, 2021, 7:32 AM
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Yes, keeping the money out of the hands of the kids who are actually generating it is definitely a way of ensuring we are following the religion of capitalism.

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If locker rooms are divided along socio-economic lines


Jun 15, 2021, 5:05 PM
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which they most likely are already, then getting a fair royalty compensation for images/likeness might actually make it less pronounced.

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Capitalism ain’t always fair but beats the alternatives.

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Jun 15, 2021, 5:41 PM
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Deal with it or move on.

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Re: How long will it take before NIL becomes the cancer that divides the locker room, and


Jun 15, 2021, 6:38 PM
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As disappointing as it is to see the scholarship devalued now, I could see the businessman / CEO side of Dabo coming out. Just like in any business, there are employees that are more visible or deemed “more important” than others, but everyone knows that if a piece of the puzzle is removed, the operation will fail. I could see Dabo creating a “profit-sharing” program, with things like academic performance being part of the metric. In a great way, he runs his program like a business. It’ll be interesting to see how he makes this work.

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I’m just thankful that our coaching staff

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Jun 15, 2021, 9:20 PM
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Isn’t as afraid of change as apparently our fan base is. For a site that has so many people railing against socialism and the government eroding our personal freedoms; you guys are really triggered by the NCAA being forced to return to the players that which they never had any justified right to restrict.

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Jun 15, 2021, 10:48 PM
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My question/concern is around time management and how the coaching staff will deal with this potential distraction to players time.

I’m pretty sure that during the season players don’t have a lot of free time. They get up early, have team meetings, team breakfast, team workouts, go to classes, squeeze in some homework, then have practice after school, have more homework and tutor time, have dinner, spend a little time socializing with friends and family.
Players who have an opportunity to make money off their image are going to find ways to squeeze time in to do just that.
My concern is there will be time management conflicts with the coaching staff. I wouldn’t be surprised to see that be one of the bigger sources of conflict in the locker room and with the team.

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Dabo will always do what's right. I will always support....


Jun 16, 2021, 5:56 AM
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Clemson.


If Clemson fields a team of only 20 farms boys from rural South Carolina they will still have my 100% support and respect.


All the rest I have no control over, so makes not a hill of beans to me.



YMMV

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Jun 16, 2021, 8:06 AM
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Has QB pay and attention ruined the NFL game. Have NFL offensive lineman stopped pass blocking for the many prima donna QBs in the last 40 years?

NIL is not going to kill college football.

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