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Georgia RB commit

[2]
Jan 27, 2022, 9:03 PM

Jordan James is getting a bunch of crystal balls flipping to Oregon.

Don’t surprised if this means Andrew Paul is heading to Georgia.

Looks increasingly more like Spiller will finish 0-4 with RBs in his first year. Yikes.

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Re: Georgia RB commit

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:23 PM

Good lord help us.

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Re: Georgia RB commit

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:28 PM

Click link…
https://theclemsoninsider.com/2022/01/27/the-latest-on-andrew-paul/


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Re: Georgia RB commit

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Jan 28, 2022, 5:16 AM

The look on his face says it all....

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What does it say ?

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Jan 28, 2022, 1:18 PM

I don't read faces

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Re: What does it say ?

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Jan 29, 2022, 1:23 PM

It says,
Andrew Paul- You are not the Father!
Wait my bad - wrong show!

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What does it say Dr. Phil?***


Jan 28, 2022, 8:38 PM



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Re: Georgia RB commit

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:29 PM

Click link at TCI

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Re: Georgia RB commit

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:29 PM


Jordan James is getting a bunch of crystal balls flipping to Oregon.

Don’t surprised if this means Andrew Paul is heading to Georgia.

Looks increasingly more like Spiller will finish 0-4 with RBs in his first year. Yikes.


Could that be bc of no experience in recruiting college age kids, or could it be just bad luck in CJ's first year of recruiting??? Don't take what I say the wrong way bc, CJ Spiller is my most favorite Clemson player of the past. And his #28 has been riding on the front fender of my custom Harley since CJ's senior year at Clemson, and it's still there today. I'm just saying that CJ has no coaching experience, but his talent will help him get through his young coaching career, but I don't see it helping him in recruiting bc most young HS players only remember CJ's NFL career that didn't go even close to what most of us thought it would go, and I truly believe that it was bc of the team he was drafted to back then, and that was a terrible Bill's team where CJ got beat the H&11 up playing for!!!

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Why must we seemingly always overlook the obvious

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:37 PM

these guys want to play this year! These guys aren't playing here this year! We have a junior and two sophomores who are extremely good ahead of them. Unless they want to redshirt, or get a few meaningless snaps, why would they sign here this year?

If we do land Paul it's the recruiting job of the century, just like it would have been with ETN.

It's not rocket science guys

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Re: Why must we seemingly always overlook the obvious

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:53 PM

Wow!!! Somebody actually gets it. Recruiting has changed... what can you do for me now?

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Amazing how players are willing to sit at other

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:53 PM

top programs. There is no excuse this program should not be in the top 10 in recruiting every year

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Re: Amazing how players are willing to sit at other

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:00 PM

We pretty much are.

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Exactly***

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:06 PM



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Guess that's why Bama brought in a transfer RB this year

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:04 PM

all those 5 stars they had as depth this year, right? Where is a guy with Paul's current offer sheet sitting at 4th team anywhere?

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We are losing every head to head recruiting battle

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:11 PM

with uga this year. Explain that

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You may want to click player by player on our commits

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:21 PM

and who all had UGA offers. Most of those guys just cut them off, committed to use and stuck with it.

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Facts don't fit the narrative***

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:28 PM



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Striper what recruits have we gone toe to toe

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:33 PM

against uga and won the last 3 years?

I want to believe you.

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Re: Striper what recruits have we gone toe to toe

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:43 PM

Which of our 4 and 5 star players would UGA have not taken? UGA, Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama, et al all go head to head for the top players regardless of what the Rivals or 247 offer sheet says. If a 5 star player truly doesn’t have an offer from a top program it’s because they know the commitment elsewhere is solid and don’t bother - but that’s no less losing than your idea of going “head to head”.

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Well, Jawja offered

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:49 PM

Klubnick, Lucas, Williams, Pride, Randall, Sadler and Covil

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Let me know who you are referring to***

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:30 PM



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Go to 247, ESPN or Rivals and look for yourself***

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Re: Let me know who you are referring to***

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:54 PM

Andrew Booth, Bryan Bresee, Myles Murphy, Fred Davis, Barret Carter...

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Re: Let me know who you are referring to***


Jan 30, 2022, 2:40 PM

and I am sure Simpson also

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You posted "we"

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Jan 28, 2022, 8:35 AM

so you tell us why you and your crew keep losing recruiting battles.

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Re: Amazing how players are willing to sit at other

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:12 PM

No they aren’t - which is why the portal has more than twice as many players as there are spaces to put them.

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It’s almost as it you don’t

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:31 PM

know anything about Clemson football recruiting at all.

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Nice vague post with no context or facts

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:37 PM

show me I’m wrong.

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No need to parrot what has already been stated here.

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:49 PM

We don’t have a recruiting problem at RB or any other position. Five star guys are going to get offers from UGA and Clemson. Clemson gets their share. Georgia’s just transfer after one season.

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Re: Amazing how players are willing to sit at other

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Jan 28, 2022, 8:50 AM

we're at 11 with less recruits than anyone in front of us with at least two expected commitments...

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Uhhh…

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Jan 28, 2022, 1:25 PM

That’s a lot of drama over 1 spot.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/


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Re: Amazing how players are willing to sit at other

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Jan 29, 2022, 4:22 PM

We're sitting at #11 right now.

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Re: Why must we seemingly always overlook the obvious

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Jan 28, 2022, 10:02 AM

Andrew Paul wants to play early so that means going to Georgia over Clemson?

Seems reasonable. It's not like Georgia is loaded at RB. To be honest, I can't even think of any Georgia RBs that have had any impact in the NFL. We've sent 3 in the last decade (Ellington, Gallman, and Etienne). I seriously can't name a single RB in the NFL that went to Georgia. None. Zero.

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Re: Why must we seemingly always overlook the obvious

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Jan 28, 2022, 12:23 PM

I hope you are being facetious…But Gurley, Chubb, and Michele come to mind quickly.

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I must have missed where he committed to Jawja***

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Jan 28, 2022, 12:28 PM



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Will you admit you were completely wrong when he does?***


Jan 28, 2022, 2:42 PM



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I've said about ETN and Paul I thought it was unlikely

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Jan 28, 2022, 8:09 PM

we landed them for reasons you know. He'd be 4th team here

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Jan 30, 2022, 3:52 PM

This is a joke right...? Todd Gurley, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, D'Andre Swift...

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Yeah . Glad we dont have UGAs scrubs at RB

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Jan 28, 2022, 1:21 PM

Oh wait …

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Somehow UGA manages to stack them in***


Jan 28, 2022, 2:35 PM



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If you were Clemson, would you trade places with UGA?***

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What does that even mean?***


Jan 28, 2022, 6:04 PM



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Pretty simple question…

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Jan 28, 2022, 6:47 PM

Let me word it another way. Are you envious of UGA football? Do you covet UGA’s success?




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I covet their ability to sign RBs

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Jan 29, 2022, 4:23 AM

and OL

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We signed the #2 and #11 running backs in the country…

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Jan 29, 2022, 7:38 AM

in the 2021 class. UGA signed the #8 ranked RB.


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This is clearly a case of,

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:36 PM

“If Kirby wants um, Kirby gets um…”

The rest of the country is now just forever doomed.

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It’s 5 out of 5 head to head vs Clemson


Jan 27, 2022, 10:15 PM

and those are just the ones we know of. I’m sure there are more.

Those are facts.

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Not sure how him going to UGA

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:42 PM

correlates to Paul going to UGA. I’m sure as soon as the commitment was off with James and UGA - Lanning was on the phone. Also don’t know who went with Lanning to Oregon but that may be the trigger behind James heading there and the separation with UGA that sent them scrambling after Paul. UGA is still competing for a visit last I saw so seems they most likely will need to get to that next step first to become a battle. Not sure how this would have anything to do with Spiller. We’ve got a bunch of you guys so we may have to wait to next year befor the depth chart becomes attractive again. Meanwhile we would just RS Adams play him 4 games and hope injuries don’t hit.

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*him going to Oregon***


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Well, Paul still has a potential

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:42 PM

Last official visit with Oregon so I’m not buying that at this point.

Spiller did a great job and is still in the running for Paul.

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Another whiff to uga

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Jan 27, 2022, 9:51 PM

can’t wait to hear the spin. He wasn’t even on their radar until we offered.

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Re: Another whiff to uga

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Jan 27, 2022, 11:37 PM

Did you miss your parade? You sure seem angry.

Clemson has been elite a few more years than Ga. Check yourself before further making yourself look stupid.

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Re: Another whiff to uga

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Jan 28, 2022, 6:16 AM


Did you miss your parade? You sure seem angry.

Clemson has been elite a few more years than Ga. Check yourself before further making yourself look stupid.


Apparently this poster only been a Clemson fan since 2015....

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Re: Georgia RB commit

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Jan 27, 2022, 10:31 PM

I'm looking forward to laughing my A_ _ off at all of you who are crying and whining about the 'sure thing' that A.Paul is going to jilt Clemson and go to UGA.

We might not get him, but if we don't it'll be because he chose Oregon.

You all should sell blue chip stock to take this 'it won't be UGA' bet.

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Jan 27, 2022, 11:31 PM

We've got three really good backs already. We will be fine.

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Re: Georgia RB commit


Jan 28, 2022, 7:51 PM

Have not seen Pauls name mentioned on the Ga. site . Several Clemson articles, I think he would be
transferring after 1 yr. at Ga. The young man should go where they want him.

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Re: Georgia RB commit

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Jan 28, 2022, 6:40 AM

Think you got it backwards. UGA offered Paul because they lost James, not the other way around.

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Ouch.

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Jan 28, 2022, 7:15 AM

If that’s true that hurts bad.

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Darn right.

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Jan 28, 2022, 10:12 AM

Tnet is so tribal right now, we can't even admit to ourselves when recruiting is in a nose-dive. Much like what happened to our offense this year.

To some, it's only pumpers vs dumpers, and let's throw out all reason.

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Serious question…


Jan 28, 2022, 6:49 PM

Have you looked at the composite rankings?

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/


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Serious answer...

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Jan 28, 2022, 8:15 PM

We are deep deep into our board at DE which was a huge need for us. Also, we are about to lose our second RB target and sign a legacy there and at TE because we don't have numbers.

We whiffed on our top WR, DT, RB, CB, and Saftey targets.

You can pretend all you want but this recruiting cycle has been terrible for a team that as had so much success the last 10 years.

Face it or not, it's up to you.

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There is nothing for me to face…

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Jan 28, 2022, 11:33 PM

An independent source has us ranked at 11. Your fight is with them.

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If you think this class is 11th in the country

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Jan 29, 2022, 12:42 PM

great. I hope I am wrong, I really do.

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Again…

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Jan 29, 2022, 12:44 PM

Take it up with Rivals, not me.

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This class is exactly the same level as the classes that


Jan 29, 2022, 9:07 PM

... led up to our two recent national titles.

We have had a couple of better classes (on paper) more recently, but this current class is right in line with those classes that got us to the top.

And a lot of the players from this better classes are still with us.

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Tell me the last time


Jan 30, 2022, 12:05 AM

we have had four legacy three-star recruits in the same class including a 200 lb DE in a HUGE position of need.

Compare our classes to Ohio State, Georgia, and Alabama this year.

You keep conveniently leaving out that we had a generational QB in those classes you mention.

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Cade Klubnik is rated much higher than Watson ...


Jan 30, 2022, 12:29 AM

Watson only became what you deem a generational QB after he got to Clemson.

Why do you not feel that Klubnik is a “generational” QB (whatever the he!l that even means.) ? He’s the best QB in the country by consensus. Heck, DJ was a “generational” QB coming out of high school.

Why do you conveniently leave out that this class addresses numerous positions of need? Including the most important position by far.

All the pre-2019 Clemson classes had a bunch of 3-star recruits just like this year. We’ve always had a high percentage of 3-stars in any given class. What difference does it make if they are legacies or not. If they can mature and contribute, then they are worth a scholarship. Maybe only a third of them become contributors. If so, that’s enough.

And it is a FACT that we beat Alabama and Ohio State with players from classes that were heavy with 3-stars and ALL ranked outside the Top-10.

This is a very solid class. We may have had a couple of better ones just after winning the national title, but this one is nothing to be discouraged about. Especially since it is fortified with the continued presence of lots of great players from those two great classes.

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Jan 31, 2022, 12:27 PM

Cade has not even stepped on the field and you want to compare him to DeShaun or Trevor? Since rankings or offers don't matter then Cade's 5 stars tell us nothing, right?

Nothing against these four legacy recruits but they are one or two injuries away from seeing significant playing time in 2023.

It's not just the three stars, either. It's family members of players who were not offered by anyone of any significance. Other major programs work hard to scout kids too, you know.

I know one or two kids can fly under the radar but we are talking about a quarter of our class with project-type players. One is a 6' 200 lb DE. If you want to make a side bet that he will not be all ACC one day, I'll take it.

Like I said before, maybe it's just a huge coincidence and these four legacy kids are super-talented players that just got passed up and overlooked by all the major programs in the country. I mean I hope that's the case.

But don't sit here and tell me that several recruiting classes like this will get us in the title game beating the pants off of Georgia, Ohio State, or Alabama.

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This is one class in isolation ... why do you assume


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that we will have several in a row. I won’t simply leap to that conclusion.

But yes, several classes in a row like this one did indeed lead to us beating the pants off of Alabama and Ohio State.

We only got our Top-5 classes after the 44-16 beat down of Alabama. Before that, our classes looked very similar to this one.

And with two Top-5 classes in a row, we have subsequently *not* made it to the title game nor beaten Alabama or Ohio State.

Isn’t that weird?

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Im more upset that we are behind UNC...WTH?


Jan 31, 2022, 12:40 PM

Mack lost the Mayo bowl...

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Did Georgia decide to offer Andrew Paul because

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Jan 28, 2022, 11:30 AM

they knew they were losing Jordan James, or did Jordan James leave because he knew Georgia was getting Andrew Paul.

I find it hard to believe that Andrew Paul would be the reason a Georgia kid would look elsewhere. Georgia is stacked at RB regardless.

My guess is UGA offering Andrew Paul is a desperation move by Georgia. They could use another RB, and he's the best out there.

With that said a UGA offer is hard to refuse given how well their RBs have fared. Maybe a desperation offer by UGA is going to be good enough.

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I don't understand why people think Jordan James

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Jan 28, 2022, 1:01 PM

is leaving UGA because they got Andrew Paul. I can't find a single rating that says Andrew Paul is above Jordan James. Jordan James wouldn't go to UGA because he was worried about competition.

To me, it makes a lot more sense that Andrew Paul was offered...A WEEK AGO...because they got signaling from Jordan James that he probably isn't coming to Athens. Now...whether or not Andrew Paul goes there I have no idea, but I don't see how people think a higher-rated RB is running for the hills because he found out Andrew Paul is coming. Plus, am I missing something or does UGA already also have Branson Robinson, a still higher-rated RB, already committed.

Like I said, I don't know where Andrew Paul will go and I'm not losing sleep over this stuff one way or the other. There are just too many variables that go into this now. Culture...development...playing time...atmosphere...the ability to win championships...NIL packages...and it can all shift in a year anyway. I just think the hand wringing is odd that they must have landed Paul and that's why James said goodbye.

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None of that really matter because we have

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Jan 28, 2022, 8:42 PM

Keith Adams brother. We will be fine at RB for the next 5 years.

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Re: None of that really matter because we have


Jan 30, 2022, 7:26 AM

His son actually

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Re: Georgia RB commit

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Jan 28, 2022, 4:48 PM

Actually, the reason Georgia started recruiting Paul is because they backed off of James. James offer was pulled a few weeks ago from my understanding. I don't know the details, but this kid wasn't going to Georgia as of a few weeks ago. James going somewhere else is the reason Georgia wants Paul, but Paul to Georgia has nothing to do with James leaving. I still believe Clemson wins this one.

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Not surprising

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Jan 29, 2022, 8:05 AM

Have three talented sophomores. Tough to recruit on top of that.

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Re: Georgia RB commit

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Jan 29, 2022, 8:22 AM

Jordan James is ranked higher than Paul. Why would he base what he does on Andrew Paul?

Even if we miss on Paul, I wouldn't see it as a knock on CJ. It can't be easy looking at Mafah and Shipley, only 1 class ahead of you and Pace just 2 classes ahead and thinking that is where I want to go. Any RB from this year was/is only looking at getting significant playing time their senior year.

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Jan 29, 2022, 9:24 AM

The fact that he's supposedly "0-4" in his first year (per you) has a LOT more to do with our depth chart than it does with Spiller's ability to recruit. Next year is the year I would expect Spiller to land a premier RB.

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Exactly.

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Jan 29, 2022, 11:50 AM

Any RB we sign this year will be behind the #2 and #11 ranked RB’s in the 2021 class.

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Re: Exactly.

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Jan 29, 2022, 1:50 PM

I want to make sure I understand the logic.

When RBs don’t choose Clemson, it’s because they are afraid of the competition.

But, if Paul chooses UGA, then he chooses a team that has

Kenny McIntosh, 11 RB, 187
Kendall Milton, 7 RB, 54
Daijun Edwards, 21 RB, 279
Branson Robinson, 4 RB, 61

When Emmanuel Henderson chose Bama over Clemson, he chose to compete against

Trey Sanders, 1 RB, 6
Jace McClellan, 6 RB, 47
Roydell Williams, 9 RB, 77
Camar Wheaton, 3 RB, 34

Right, that makes perfect sense.

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If Bama is so loaded at RB, why did they bring in a transfer

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Jan 29, 2022, 3:05 PM

to start? How many of those guys do you think are gone after spring practice?

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Bama had a hiccup when Burton stepped down***


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Sounds like an excuse***

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You would know, you seem to be full of them***


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Yep, I don't find the need to constantly whine about what

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Jan 29, 2022, 10:31 PM

will wind up a top 10 class

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Re: If Bama is so loaded at RB, why did they bring in a transfer

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Jan 29, 2022, 3:13 PM

They had one transfer and one blow out their knee. And because Jahmyr Gibbs might be the best all around RB in college football.

But, obviously Emmanuel Henderson was too scared of the competition at Clemson. Amirite?

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Hey man, we signed the #2 and #11 RB last year, apparently


Jan 29, 2022, 3:17 PM

we won't sign another till they are gone...period

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Has more to do with all of them being here the next 3 years

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Jan 29, 2022, 3:21 PM

if they should choose to do so. Pace has a Covid year if he wants it.

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Re: Has more to do with all of them being here the next 3 years


Jan 29, 2022, 4:01 PM

If they are as good as we believe they are, they won’t be here for 3 years.

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But right now, that possibility exists


Jan 29, 2022, 4:13 PM

No one thought ETN would stay all 4. Potential recruits not only look at who is in front of them, but what is their remaining eligibility. For this class I've always thought we'd wind up with a Michael Dukes type. Adams would fit that bill. Next year would be the more likely year for a stud RB. I also think one of the 3 here eventually transfer. Not enough carries to go around for 3 guys

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Re: But right now, that possibility exists

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Jan 29, 2022, 7:14 PM

Nah, man, good point actually.

The 2024 Clemson Tigers will be featuring

rsSR Kobe Pace
SR Will Shipley
SR Phil Mafah

Can’t wait

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We are in an age where you can actually over recruit a


Jan 29, 2022, 10:37 PM

position. With the insta-portal, you simply are not going to stockpile and keep kids who are 3-4-5 on the depth chart. So, you have a choice; either continue to recruit that deep depth with highly rated guys like Georgia and Bama and have a revolving door, or recruit some developmental kids who know they are several years from playing and possibly find that diamond in the rough. We've been very good at finding those diamonds in the rough, who also provide the culture we are seeking to maintain.

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Jan 30, 2022, 2:51 PM

but my concern is those diamonds after two years decide to transfer when they are coached up and getting ready to explode. They want their spotlight too. I think Clemson needs to recruit the top players and sign them and also get involved with the portal. We have seen a lot of our lower recruits transfer out this past off season.

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Any player no matter the star rating buried


Jan 30, 2022, 5:11 PM

On the depth chart is a candidate to transfer. If they've developed in to one of the top backs, why would they transfer? Few spotlights are bigger than here

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And yet you covet a program that did not.***

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Link to where I said I covet UGA?***


Jan 30, 2022, 4:30 PM



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Here you go…

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Jan 30, 2022, 4:32 PM

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/i-covet-their-ability-to-sign-rbs-30292267


You desire an ability that UGA has. You wish to have what they have. You covet their program.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/covet

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/program




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


I thought public executions had been outlawed.

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Jan 31, 2022, 11:50 AM

.

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


I covet their ability, not them...Not surprised you can't


Jan 31, 2022, 2:37 PM

tell the difference, particularly when you originally tried to spring your trading places gotcha...Example...I covet Ryan Seacrest's wealth, but I wouldn't want to be actually be Ryan Seacrest...If you can't see UGA signs better RBs and OL in greater numbers, that's more of a YOU issue

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Well…

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Jan 31, 2022, 2:55 PM

This is embarrassing for you. I said you covet their “program”, and I even provided the definitions for you.

Program:
3 : a plan or system under which action may be taken toward a goal.

Synonyms for program:
arrangement, blueprint, design, game, game plan, ground plan, master plan, plan, project, road map, scheme, strategy, system











And PS, the original question wasn’t a gotcha, I was genuinely curious. It wasn’t until you got smart with your #2 and #11 post that I pointed out your nonsense.




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Oh, it was absolutely a gotcha question...If you can't admit


Jan 31, 2022, 5:23 PM

other schools do some things better than us, it still a YOU issue, regardless of how many cool points you rack up for attempting to act like it's not

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At least you’ve given up your covet argument…

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Jan 31, 2022, 6:01 PM

#progress

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


If you're not smart enough to see the distinction, that's a


Jan 31, 2022, 6:23 PM

you issue...All I could do was spell it out for you, it's up to you to understand it, apparently, you couldn't

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Haha…

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Jan 31, 2022, 6:30 PM

We’re well past establishing the intelligence hierarchy here. You can take it up with Merriam-Webster if you’d like? With that said, I do think you are intelligent, you just don’t like being wrong. Nobody does.


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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


yeah, one of us can make a distinction and you can't


Jan 31, 2022, 6:36 PM

apparently...Even after an example is given

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Your example has a major fault…

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Jan 31, 2022, 6:44 PM

I didn’t say you covet UGA, you said that. I said you covet their program. I provided definitions from a dictionary. You are so frustrated, you are reading what you want to read, not what I typed. But then again, you also misread my motives in my original question to you, so I guess we have established a pattern. At this point, the only possible way out, in your mind, is to get in the last word, which you are giving your best shot.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Maybe in your vagueness, you had no point?

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Jan 31, 2022, 6:36 PM

Or maybe the actual point should be we are all Clemson fans who want every great recruit. We have a staff that have competed at the highest level with less talent and have delivered on some incredible recruits. Let’s see how it plays out before we write off anything about what got us this far. That’s probably buried in FM’s point too.

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Where was I vague? I was pretty clear about what EXACTLY I


Jan 31, 2022, 6:43 PM

was envious of...I would LOVE to have UGA's ability to have multiple pro RBs on the same squad multiple times and I would LOVE to sign pro OL like they do...I don't know how much clearer I could be about that...Now if tiny brains interpret that as me wishing Clemson could trade places with UGA, that is on them

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Nobody interpreted your response as you wanted to trade…

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Jan 31, 2022, 6:47 PM

places with UGA. You are talking in circles, again, misreading what was typed. You are running too hot over this. You covet UGA’s program (see definition) and that’s fine. Who cares. You do you.


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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Did you not originally ask me if I wanted Clemson to trade


Feb 1, 2022, 12:13 AM

places?

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Yes…


Feb 1, 2022, 5:37 AM

And I never mentioned it again after your response, because I didn’t interpret your answer to mean you wnt to trade places with them, you just want one thing they have.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


You must be lost in your


Jan 31, 2022, 6:52 PM

own gaslighting. You said that very thing to me 2 days ago in this exact thread. Now you seem to be in the midst of the very thing you accused me of, which is the irony I pointed out.

I’d just let it go, but that’s just me.

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I recognize my words, they just weren't applicable to me guy


Feb 1, 2022, 12:12 AM

I wasn't being vague

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Their theory works in a vacuum, but when you see how


Jan 29, 2022, 3:07 PM

stacked the RB rooms are of the teams they eventually choose the logic just evaporates

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Re: Their theory works in a vacuum, but when you see how

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Jan 29, 2022, 3:16 PM

That’s my point. Alabama and Georgia are stacked at RB every year. Multiple dudes that will be high draft picks and have long careers in the NFL. We are losing RB recruits to programs with elite talent in their RB room.

And I believe we have elite talent as well. I love Shipley, Pace, and Mafah. But I can’t pretend like RBs choosing Bama and UGA over Clemson is simply because they don’t want to compete against our guys. Those teams are just as loaded as we are.

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Georgia and still even Bama, for that matter, are

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Jan 29, 2022, 3:35 PM

run heavy offenses. Yes, Bama has adopted RPO and the mobile QB aspect, but both rely more heavily on a stable of backs whereas Clemson is more balanced. Probably affects recruits decisions beyond the bevy of lies and greased palms inherent to their recruiting process.

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What are you smoking? Bama had a WR win the Heisman


Jan 29, 2022, 3:41 PM

two years ago and had their QB win it this year...They have a dynamic passing attack and have since Hurts left

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Re: What are you smoking? Bama had a WR win the Heisman


Jan 29, 2022, 4:00 PM

It’s funny reading the excuses.

I hope Andrew Paul commits to us over Georgia.

But, if he doesn’t, I can’t help but to view that as an indictment on Spiller’s ability to recruit. Maybe he just needed more time to develop the relationships and he’ll land a big time RB for 23’

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I love when people think they know everything,

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Jan 29, 2022, 4:55 PM

even before it happens.

View it however you want. Either way, I personally don’t care.

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Hence why I said,


Jan 29, 2022, 4:52 PM

“Bama runs RPO and has (present tense) mobile QB’s…”

Further, I’m speaking in generality, not a specific Bama team or year.

Maybe you misinterpreted my point.

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Or maybe in your vagueness, there wasn't even a point to


Jan 29, 2022, 5:59 PM

begin with...pitiful backpedal btw

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What exactly are you trying to argue with me?

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Jan 29, 2022, 6:12 PM

I didn’t address you originally nor did my response call out anything you said. Now you’re gaslighting?

What backpedaling? lol, I took the high road and tried to clarify so you understood, but per usual, you’re defensive for no reason. You’ll have to solicit someone else to go back and forth with you. I’ve got better things to do.

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Re: Their theory works in a vacuum, but when you see how

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Jan 29, 2022, 10:09 PM

LT - some good back and forth but I’m not reading about the tremendous advantage Bama and UGA have had at OL over the last decade.

The OL is the difference maker in recruiting and power running game. Clemson OL showed some improvement through 2021, and hopefully, Clemson’s younger higher rated OL recruits will get in the rotation this year.

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Yep, I see the OL as the obstacle to recruiting RBs

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Jan 31, 2022, 12:52 PM

They couldnt block for ETN, Shipley had to give his all to find holes. Kids see this stuff too.

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I stopped reading at “afraid”.

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Jan 29, 2022, 10:04 PM

Not once did I say that. If you want to have a conversation about recruiting, no problem, but you’re gonna need to do better. Maybe you’re flexing? I don’t know, I’m too tired to try and figure out why you made that up.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: Georgia RB commit


Feb 1, 2022, 9:29 AM

I really wasn't expecting to land another big time RB for another year or 2. Its a hard sell on PT when you have Pace, Shipley and Mafah on the depth chart all being just Sophs or Jr. I'd love to get Paul tho, a big bowling ball type back, reminds me of Adam Choice. He'd get his carries in due time.

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