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All-TigerNet [12592]
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Follow the Science or Not?
Sep 13, 2021, 3:43 PM
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https://www.npr.org/2021/09/13/1036600360/covid-19-vaccine-booster-shot
I'm not the smartest guy even in a small room, but it would seem to me that it would be more important to dole out the money and effort to help get the rest of the world vaccinated.
We don't live in a vacuum. New variants will probably continue to emerge elsewhere unless we get the vaccines abroad.
The booster at home probably will be targeted to a smaller subset of the population rather than the population at large.
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All-In [31461]
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Re: Follow the Science or Not?
Sep 13, 2021, 4:05 PM
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Totally agree. Save the boosters for the nursing homes, other gray-hairs, and healthcare, cops, & teachers. Time to start shipping the good vaccines overseas.
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I think with Pfizer a booster(s) may be needed
Sep 13, 2021, 4:29 PM
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based on Israeli data, especially for those elderly or with immune conditions. Moderna? Probably not yet. See they still clump the vaccines together but the numbers show a very different scenario playing out. Moderna is still over 90%, Pfizer is 73%, and J&J is 60%.
Two doses of Moderna is the same amount of mRNA as in 6+ doses of Pfizer. All things being equal (they probably are), that's a big difference. Moderna also has a longer wait between shots, boosting immunity even more. They really should up the Pfizer dose from 30 to 100mcg like Moderna, and then extend the wait between shots. The only difference may be in the delivery system (lipid nanoparticles), don't know enough about those to know the difference, but if they're the same, and it's the same mRNA, then yeah.
Somewhere I read a study saying the Moderna dose, TWO months apart, boosts antibodies even more. And mRNA vaccines have been shown not to stop transmission, or even slow it. Most cases become cases when someone feels sick. There is a lot (most probably) of the transmission happening among vaccinated people who never even know because their vaccine keeps them from having symptoms, but not from spreading the virus. In other words, you are not any safer walking into a crowded bar unvaccinated, even if the bar is packed with vaccinated people with no symptoms.
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Re: I think with Pfizer a booster(s) may be needed
Sep 20, 2021, 10:32 AM
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Do you have a link for the information you provided on the efficacy of each vaccine?
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Orange Blooded [2693]
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Re: Follow the Science or Not?
Sep 14, 2021, 6:55 PM
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I'm surprised we don't have more testing on antibodies in general. Seems to me that is where the rubber meets the road, whether you have been vaxxed or have infection-conferred immunity.
I'd rather get this test, see where I stand, then simply just line up to get a third shot. Even if 1% of the population tested their antibodies, it would be a valuable piece of data to evaluate the efficacy of various vaccines throughout the population.
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All-In [40929]
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hopefully google and twitter and facebook will censor
Sep 14, 2021, 7:06 PM
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that bs
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