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DJ was by far the better of two great qb’s
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DJ was by far the better of two great qb’s

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:16 PM

Both threw the lights out but DJ made plays with his legs too. Amazing poise and throw with defender hanging onto his leg. Give credit when it’s due.

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Hartman was throwing dimes on us

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:22 PM

I don't think either was "by far" better. They both had incredible games.

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Re: Hartman was throwing dimes on us

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:28 PM

Agreed.

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Hartman was super accurate

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:51 PM

And was humming some into tight spots. Putting touch on them. Really nicely thrown balls with great consistency. I was really impressed with him. We have got to get our heads around and make it a little harder on him.

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:33 PM

Yes DJ deserves a ton of credit but the stats do not back you up. The QB game was a push at best because of the running you mentioned.

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Both Did, But

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:34 PM

1. Orange colored glasses.
2. Hartman did what he should have against an inexperienced secondary. Clawson called this his most talent laden team since he has been there including strengths at DB and OL. DJU wasn't playing behind a veteran OL against rookie DB's.
3. DJU made the "have to have it play" on the two point conversion with a dude drapped all over him.
4. Did i mention the orange colored glasses. I know all homer sunshine pumper comments; but it's the way I see it. No knock on Hartman who absolutely exposed our young secondary. And for that actually, I am thankful. That will be the fuel to push those guys to never let it happen again.

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Re: Both Did, But

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:41 PM

It will be interesting to see which of the two QBs Saturday has the Most success in the NFL. Both likely will be chosen. I put my money on the Wake dude. He likely will be chosen before DJ.

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:45 PM


It will be interesting to see which of the two QBs Saturday has the Most success in the NFL. Both likely will be chosen. I put my money on the Wake dude. He likely will be chosen before DJ.




Hartman is 6'1 and 205.
DJU is 6'4 233.

The NFL loves measurables and tall QB's. I think if DJU continues to play well he would get picked before Hartman mostly because of the youth he has to work with at WR compared to the vets Hartman has. Plus, the measurables. FORESTTIGER

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Re: Both Did, But

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:49 PM

While I’ve been a critic of DJ. The jury is still out. I personally don’t see him doing well in the draft if he goes out this year. He needs to clean up his throwing mechanics, IMHO. He appears to draw the ball from his side, which takes away from quick deliveries. NFL passing takes a lightning fast release. Can’t do that from your side. I’m no coach, but that appears to be how he throws.

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:41 PM

Our secondary made their receivers look better, thus their QB. But we came away with the win. The wuffies don’t have as good a qb. But they’ll fight even harder. And they’ll be well prepared. They’ll throw deep all day.

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:45 PM

NC States defense is much better than Wakes.

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:41 PM

Our secondary made their receivers look better, thus their QB. But we came away with the win. The wuffies don’t have as good a qb. But they’ll fight even harder. And they’ll be well prepared. They’ll throw deep all day. They’ll either get home runs or yellow flags.

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Hartman more tds, high percentage, higher qbr & vs better defense

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Sep 25, 2022, 8:45 PM

To say DJ was "by far" better is factually untrue. He did play lights out though, I was very impressed with his performance Saturday.

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Re: Hartman more tds, high percentage, higher qbr & vs better defense

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Sep 25, 2022, 9:11 PM

Based on the boxscore - you are correct.
But, 26 completions to 20.
Better overall defense, sure. But, clearly Wake had better DB's as the secondary and the OL and QB were the strength of their team.
Hartman had freshmen to throw against.

Why do people give certain NFL QB's credit even if their stats aren't great? Because when it's needed they make it happen. I thought DJU did that yesterday and Hartman didn't. That's not to say he didn't statistically have a better game.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401411123


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Sep 25, 2022, 8:58 PM

He was not by far better.

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I'd take DJ all day, every day over Hartman.***

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Re: DJ was by far the better of two great qb’s

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Sep 25, 2022, 9:47 PM

DJ has a ways to go to be as consistently good as Hartman has been but if he does get there, we will all be very happy.

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