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Deshaun Watson settlement update

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 1:37 PM
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/17/a-deshaun-watson-settlement-remains-possible/

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:03 PM
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So Deshaun might pay some money to get this over with ASAP. I might too, in his shoes. I can't imagine how I'd want this to just be over.

But if he does, he will ensure that everyone sees this for what it was: a smear campaign from start to finish, and he's not going to face whispers about his "misconduct" or rumors about buying women's silence.

Good for him.

Given what follows, you have to wonder if the blowback on Tony Buzbee isn't going to cost him just a whole lot more than that, because Buzbee's propensity for manufacturing lies is getting more pronounced every time he opens his mouth. I also wonder if there aren't going to be further inquiries into whether or not the smear campaign may have had...other hands on it.

Regardless, you can already see the media's over this. They're seemingly not fooled by Buzbee's act at all any more. The verdict among the press has clearly already come in regardless of whatever a jury might decide...and that's starting to seem like a formality already. It'll never get near a trial; if these women won't even face the cops to press charges or cooperate with an internal NFL investigation, how are they going to fare on a witness stand against a hostile shark like Rusty Hardin? Yeah, right.

The signs are rampant Buzbee's case is falling apart, bigly...if he ever really even had one. Deshaun clearly had some, uhm, character foibles that Buzbee was able to exploit, but character assassination (especially for profit) is just low, and that's increasingly what it looks like what was happening here.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:22 PM
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Your pollyanna view of this is commendable but not accurate. DW4 will not come out of this clean as his actions were questionable at best. The lawyer is a sleeze ball and some of the women are chasing a payout but that has nothing to do with the fact that DW4 solicited the women for sex.

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If asking some 1 for sex was illegal...we would

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:35 PM
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All be in jail.

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But he didn't just ask someone for sex.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:50 PM
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According to the allegations, he touched women inappropriately while asking them for sex, sometimes repeatedly, all while the women were in a vulnerable position (in a private location, while they were trying to do their job).

That's very different from inviting a girl he met at a bar to come back to his place.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:55 PM
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So why then does he want them to have the ability to talk to the NFL?

If he wanted them to shut up, why wouldn't he pay to muzzle them?

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 3:01 PM
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If this was Brad Brownell would you feel the same as you just described about Deshaun

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 3:25 PM
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If it was with anybody, I would feel the same bc the women had a choice of discontinuing the massage session!!!

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 4:30 PM
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Exactly! What Watson did was beyond stupid and he was clearly thinking with the little head not the big head and looking for an ego trip, but every one of these girls could’ve simply said I’m sorry but we are done! And walk out the room.

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What did watson do? Again..allegations.


Posted: May 18, 2021, 8:12 AM
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Seems every time some 1 outside of bugsbee wants to talk to the plaintiffs they get stonewalled.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 3:21 PM
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Vulnerable, were the women naked also when they were giving DW4 a massage??? If they weren't, why didn't they just leave the room, and report DW4 of inappropriate misconduct? Were they locked in the massage room with DW4? If not, why did they continue with the session, case closed!!!!

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 4:27 PM
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I am in no way defending Watson. He showed very poor judgment and was an idiot. But you are being overly persuaded by the hyperbolic times that we are currently living in. What he did was not a crime. It was clearly stupid. But not a crime. If what he did was a crime me and just about every guy I went to Clemson with back in the 80s would be in jail for sexual assault! You can just look at a girl the wrong way today and be accused of rape. And that is not an exaggeration! This is like tearing down statues. Coddled little children that don’t have a shred of real life real world experience outside of middle class privileged America are trying to apply today’s values today standards to the past and trying to change millions of years of biology in the blink of an eye. And even the slightest little deviation is compared to gas chambers in Nazi Germany! It’s ridiculous!

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 4:36 PM
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Posted: May 17, 2021, 6:20 PM
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And you know this how ..... because they said so.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 3:21 PM
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All be in jail.




Asking for free sex is ok. Trading sex for a nice dinner and movie is ok. But paying cash for sex is considered wrong so asking for a tug at the end in exchange for money is not ok.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 8:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure you can't ask someone, who is in the performance of their job, to stick their finger up your #### and massage - as DW is alleged to have done.

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Everytime I get a physical i pay some 1 to stick

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Posted: May 18, 2021, 8:14 AM
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Their finger up my azzzz.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:40 PM
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And again, embarrassing personal conduct is one thing.

Criminal and civil liability is another. The definition of a "smear campaign" is when someone takes what they know about your own embarrassing personal conduct and uses it to destroy your reputation and livelihood.

I will definitely not absolve DW4 of responsibility for being reckless, naive, and and more than a little questionable with his judgment...but does that mean that an ambulance chaser gets to tell lies about him and destroy his reputation and livelihood and take all his money and call him a rapist and abuser of women?

That's where it starts getting really disgusting. Especially if he wasn't guilty, and I really have a hard time believing he was. There's red flags all over the place in regards to Buzbee's cases.

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I agree 100%, jstone D329

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:47 PM
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Posted: May 17, 2021, 5:06 PM
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You would, because you are an absolute a$$hat...

No one likes you. Just do what OLD dogs do.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 3:07 PM
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How do you know that DW4 is guilty of anything? Have you been privy to video/audio content that none of us have had the privilege to see and hear??? With no one else in the room but the woman and DW4, a video/audio recording of their session would be the only proof those women could have to prove guilt, and it appears there is no video or audio as evidence!!!!

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 4:35 PM
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As a professional athlete, as a high profile person, as a wealthy person, going to a strip mall Asian spa type place is absolute evidence and proof of guilt of being stupid and having poor judgment! Watson didn’t commit a crime, but he was an absolute idiot!

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 4:17 PM
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He is learning a very expensive lesson. Until he goes bankrupt (I hope never) he is a marked target for any kind of scam from bad people. Unfortunately his dad never warned him of this type of trap facing a young man, and Dabo is in Clemson. Houston has everything possible to get a young man in trouble easily.
He will get out of this bruised, but he will have to pay the money and put it behind him. It will never go away! He has to watch out for women (girlfriends too) and scammers. They got to Big Ben, Kobe, Trump, Clinton, and others creating expensive problems!
He is marked for life so he can't let his guard down, always a scam target when he deals with the general public.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 4:47 PM
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Bingo

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I can't imagine who downvoted this. We all agree that the


Posted: May 17, 2021, 8:49 PM
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number of massage therapists indicates a behavior he is not proud of. However, the case for something illegal seems to be as you described. We can't know the nature of the conversations between Deshaun and his lawyer re settling, but it appears that Deshaun's desire to not settle is legit, not mere posturing. If he knows he's innocent, I hope he stays on that course.

I don't know what the rules in TX are, but I can wish for not only an acquittal but for Buzbee to be ordered to pay all costs and legal fees.

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Looking at the comments on that article

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:20 PM
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It's amazing that given the allegations/charges against Deshaun - which are very serious, especially in these "Me Too" days (unless you're a Democratic politician from NY) - that some are focusing on the fact that if he got massages he clearly violated COVID protocol. Really?? Allegations of sexual misconduct or assault and you're thinking COVID protocol?? Sheesh....

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 6:26 PM
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Well. if the so-called massage parlors were open, they were violating COVID protocol, also, and should be penalized for their actions.

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If he settles now he's not only guilty,but also stupid

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:30 PM
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Being he refused to settle in the beginning,now it'll look like he's paying for silence,no matter how slimey the other side is.

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The article only stated that any settlement would


Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:42 PM
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Require full disclosure.

And nfl acces to the plaintiffs

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:51 PM
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Call me stupid bc, if I know that I'm not guilty of anything illegal, it would be an ice cold day in h&11 before I would say that I was guilty. H&11, I'm pleading not guilty if I was guilty, and knew they couldn't prove that I was guilty!!!

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 2:56 PM
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You are obviously not a professional football in the prime of your life or maybe you would make a money decision. You would be surprised how many innocent folks take plea deals to get on with their lives.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 4:42 PM
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It’s like insurance companies paying false claims. It’s often cheaper to make a small pay out than months fighting it especially in court. This has nothing at this point to do with guilt or innocence. This is now a business negotiation.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 3:09 PM
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I actually read that a little differently.

Deshaun actually seems to want the NFL talking to these women.

I wonder what Deshaun thinks they're going to say, and maybe about who put them up to it?

It'll be distinctly fascinating if Buzbee doesn't go for it - and I suspect he won't! - because he does not in fact seem to want NFL investigators talking to these women. I actually linked to an article a couple days ago talking about just that, that Buzbee complaining that NFL investigators were not "respecting" his victims and that he wasn't going to allow the women he's representing to cooperate with the investigation any more as a result. Which seemed awfully similar to Buzbee not trusting the Houston PD to investigate Deshaun over sexual misconduct with the women he's representing either.

I mean...really, Tony?

So, we're just going to take your word for this all, then, since I'm assuming we won't be able to find a judge or a courtroom that's to your satisfaction to try this case in court, either.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 3:09 PM
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Keep in mind that the burden of proof in civil court isn't nearly as high as a criminal one. Still, I'd imagine the motivation for settling would mostly be a result of wanting to move past this, get everything out of the public eye, get any potential punishment from the NFL out of the way, and start the period towards this all becoming a memory.

I can pretty much promise you that any settlement would not involve Watson saying he's guilty of anything. It would likely be some form of payment for any "misunderstanding."

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 4:39 PM
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It’s not a contradiction at all. The facts of the case dramatically changed. One girl accused him in the beginning and he said no I’m not paying. But a sleazy lawyer came along and went out and found dozens of other girls and created a national headline. Legal strategies change all the time throughout the course of a case based on the evidence. It’s like making halftime adjustments in a football game!

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Posted: May 18, 2021, 8:28 AM
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MRTTMT said:

Being he refused to settle in the beginning,now it'll look like he's paying for silence,no matter how slimey the other side is.





Did you read the article? GW4 wants full transparency. The other side wants full confidentiality.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 4:38 PM
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It’s not hard to pick out the Brownell lover/Football haters on this post.

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Class of ‘71. Went through “rat season” and glad I did.


Key takeaway from that article

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 5:45 PM
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The phrase "in contrast to the usual procedure, in this situation the plaintiffs want confidentiality and the defendant does not." If it isn't obvious why, I'll tell you. As an employment defense litigator with 30+ years of experience, if I settle a sexual harassment lawsuit or any lawsuit with explosive allegations for a nominal amount, I refuse to allow a confidentiality provision in the release. For example, Plaintiff alleges Defendant forced Plaintiff to perform a sex act against her will. That's a sexual assault. If the settlement is a low figure, I want people to know it was a low figure. Otherwise they'll speculate as to what the amount is and based on the nature of the allegations and the payment of an unknown amount of money the sky is the limit. If I'm a wealthy athlete with a squeaky clean reputation and high visibility, any payment less than six figures is a nuisance settlement. And you could even characterize low six figures as nuisance considering the explosive allegations and the potential for punitive damages. Now factor in that this article implies that all plaintiffs want confidentiality leads me to believe that the vast majority if not all of these cases are money grabs leveraging DW not wanting to sit through depositions detailing salacious, but not necessarily illegal or tortious, conduct.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 5:58 PM
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Finally an educated poster. Thanks. All else here by the DW4 haters is BS.

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Posted: May 17, 2021, 6:28 PM
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Thanks SBSon .... always nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. I have been involved in a couple of lawsuits where our lawyer settled because the insurance company thought that it would cost less to settle than to continue to fight. We were in the right both times, but that did not matter. Everyone knows that is what happens in so many cases.

Neither I nor anyone else here knows what went on in those instances with Deshaun. I suspect something did, especially due to the number of women coming forward, but I am not going to further speculate. Regardless, I hope he learned a valuable lesson.

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I have been in the "he needs help" camp


Posted: May 17, 2021, 6:38 PM
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but the notion that he wants people to know what he paid resonates with me. I once had a clear case of discrimination against multiple candidates for a high level job. The person who actually sued was never a viable candidate by all accounts, even those involved in the hiring process who alleged and arguably proved discrimination against the other candidates. We settled the case for less than $10,000 which, in employment cases, is absolutely nothing. Plaintiff's attorney went ballistic when he got the draft release with no confidentiality provision because he'd gone all over town telling people how he was going to destroy my client. I told him if that was a deal-breaker that was fine with my client. They signed the release.

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Similar situation


Posted: May 17, 2021, 6:54 PM
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I'm a realtor. I once had a buyer sue me along with the other agent and seller because a tree root grew through a sewer line 6 months after closing and then a copper pipe upstairs of the older home started to leak another 6 months after that. It was alleged that I knew or should have known those things were going to happen. (Ambigous wording the the state disclosure has since been cleaned up to prevent these fraudulent suits). Anyway, the errors and omissions insurance company settled for what what it would have cost in legal fees to save time and move on. We'd have won. His attorney was a real sleaze ball in my opinion. I still had to do a deposition and sit through a mediation. Waste of time. It would be the same for deshaun.

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Lesson learned


Posted: May 17, 2021, 8:12 PM
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Be careful who you let rub on you! Especially if you are worth millions! I bet DW has learned something that Clemson dig the teach him.

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