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Dabo ruined us Clemson fans
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Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 1:52 PM

with the “Best is Standard” thing so that is what we expect every season now. We expect to make the playoffs and win a national championship every season now because of Dabo’s amazing success when that is not even possible for Nick Saban. So if Dabo had not been so successful we wouldn’t expect to win every game we play all the freaking time. So Dabo you have created a monster and now you got to deal with it man.

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I don’t expect to win it all every year, but I expect to beat shtty teams


Dec 4, 2022, 1:54 PM

and not struggle with Louisville and wake.

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You have no personal justification to expect that.***


Dec 4, 2022, 2:11 PM



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Re: You have no personal justification to expect that.***


Dec 4, 2022, 2:12 PM

Tell me more about MY expectations, and MY justifications…

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You tell us. Why do you get to expect that? You declared it.


Dec 4, 2022, 2:16 PM

Why should anyone here EXPECT something better than what we get?

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Re: You tell us. Why do you get to expect that? You declared it.


Dec 4, 2022, 2:29 PM

Crickets

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Re: I don’t expect to win it all every year, but I expect to beat shtty teams


Dec 4, 2022, 3:46 PM


and not struggle with Louisville and wake.


God forbid anyone think Wake and Louisville are actually decent teams.

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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 1:59 PM

What Dabo did was build an elite program that brought with it a bunch of bandwagon hoppers who can’t see that an 11-2 season with a conf. championship is a great year in college football.

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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 2:43 PM


What Dabo did was build an elite program that brought with it a bunch of bandwagon hoppers who can’t see that an 11-2 season with a conf. championship is a great year in college football.




I agree.
It's quite frankly "unbecoming how some carry-on and on about losing a game"! We as Clemson fans "are better than that"!

We win and lose with class 1st and foremost(the right way from the team, administration, alumni and fans)!

The coaches are human too! Thus, they are subject to bad calls like the rest of us! Was it a bad call not to run Ship/Mafah more in the 2nd half vs. scar: "yeah"! But, G.O.I already!

Should Cade have started sooner: "maybe, I don't go to practice and can only take their word of him not being ready"! Allen Iverson practice rant comes to mind. If he doesn't show it in practice can they trust it will be shown in games? Would that have been wise? I get giving him a shot despite: "PRACTICE"!
Either way - thank God Dabo has basically gotten everyone to understand: "windshield mentality instead of looking into the rearview"!

Life is about how you react to what happens to you! I think we are headed the right direction and in position to continue being one of the premier teams in CFB.

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Yes, the coaches are human.


Dec 4, 2022, 3:50 PM

Which is why it’s so weird that some fans here worship them and act like they are infallible.

Most of us aren’t nearly as bothered by the decision to play DJ so much as we are the way the coaches communicated all of it to us.

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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 2:00 PM

I'd think even the most loyal Clemson fans would reluctantly say that ND was flat out the better team and we understand we're not going to win every game.

But losing the USC game, at home when you've admitted all season we know we can run the ball, with a RB who's clearly your emotional leader on offense who is averaging 9 yds a carry, is absolutely inexcusable. When you're QB gets as many carries as your leading RB or more consistently it's clearly a play calling thing, especially when you're the better team.

Even with all of the fumbles, bad call on the punt return, etc. all we had to do was run the ball just like we did vs Syracuse with Chase Brice and we win. It's another ugly win and we've had plenty of those but it's a win. That's what Clemson fans are so upset about especially for the Seniors and leaders and every Clemson Fan that knows that how we played last night we were good enough to play with anyone in the top 4.

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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 2:10 PM

Fans have a right to be upset with a loss, I can get behind that. But to incessantly whine about it for multiple weeks is just dumb. Some fans act like its the first time Clemson has ever lost to an inferior opponent. It isn't, and I have news for you it'll happen again. Alabama did it, I don't see everyone crying about that. They lost to LSU who just got their doors blown off by Georgia, almost lost to A&M and Texas and had a shootout with Tennessee. Move on already, the Scar game was two weeks ago, still crying over spilled milk from 2 weeks ago now is just ridiculous. OP is right, Dabo has spoiled some of the fan base so bad they think 11 wins in 13 games and a prestigious bowl game is a failure. Some of us know better.

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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 2:37 PM

Except inferior on field performance has been clear since LSU whipped us like we owed them money Squeak by far inferior team while Dabo shucks and jives "we won didnt we" We are the recipients of an easy schedule or we would be 7 and 6 Those of us who pointed out (and yes ive played and coached football) this have been belittled and called things from our gaslighting coach all the way down This is 2 years lost and if Dabo cant be honest to us he is not the man he says he is

Class of 83 and I have been a fan a LOOONG time

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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 3:41 PM

I have no problem with Dabo's "coachspeak" to the fans. That in no way means he is being dishonest. He doesn't owe us full disclosure on what he really feels and what goes on in the locker room. I'm sure he is much more straightforward with the team, and how he treats them is exemplary. While I may not agree with with way he stuck by DJ, I respect it.

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Or our fans could grow up***


Dec 4, 2022, 2:27 PM



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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 2:31 PM

Amazing how hurt your feelings are. Sounds like you need to find another coach to pull for somewhere. You and the rest of your stinking lot. I agree with many on here about frustration over how the season ended but the constant attacks on coach Swinney has me convinced you need to go pull for a different coach at a different school. I hear Athens is looking for your kind of fandom

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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 2:36 PM

everyone in here is the problem and your sunshine pumping and blind loyalty doesn’t allow you to see the issues at hand. Nobody said they weren’t happy with 11 and two and a conference championship but as this thread was titled best is the standard is what is expected and when your quarterback for two straight seasons a struggle after struggle while the best one it’s not given a chance is not that. We could be happy and still question what was going on to our coaches didn’t see what at least 5 million other people in the country can see, I hate the couch coach as much as anyone else but in this case it appears that the couch coaches were actually the ones that could’ve done a better job in the situation.

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Where are your happy posts?***


Dec 4, 2022, 2:43 PM



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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 2:41 PM

Manage your expectations yourself. Dabo just won the ACC for the 7th time in 8 years. He doesn’t need any help from the fanbase that started wearing orange in 2018. The rest of us know what a successful season is and what a bad loss is and what coaching/playcalling/execution mistakes are, and we can will provide constructive feedback and support the organization back to the top of college football

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A lot of truth here


Dec 4, 2022, 2:44 PM

and this is on a lower level but I’m saying that as someone who has grown accustomed to Dutch Fork winning HS championships annually and beating opponents by 30-40 points. The first time we made it to the state championship everyone was just thrilled to even be there. Now it’s expected. Same thing is happening with Saban at Bama. I think we all need to travel back to how excited we were when we knew the program was for real in 2015 and we got a shot to take down the Bama giant. Little did we know what would be coming over the next few years.

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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 2:46 PM

Nah ..we just saw the DJ wasn't getting it done and we thought a change should have came a least a few games ago. Dabo didn't think so. The fan base overall disagreed. That's the issue.

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But it's not though


Dec 4, 2022, 2:50 PM

critique is welcome and expected. Calling the coach a liar, some of the vitriol for DJ, nasty stuff. How you say things matters just as much as what you say. Fire everybody! That's rational

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Re: Dabo ruined us Clemson fans


Dec 4, 2022, 3:44 PM

I know that we can’t win every game but knowing we have the talent to be better than we were this season. Yet no changes to the game plan to utilize the talent was maddening.

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