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COVID is a disease of the unvaccinated ?
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COVID is a disease of the unvaccinated ?


Jun 15, 2022, 3:03 PM
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Fauci who has had 2 shots plus 2 boosters has COVID. Did he not care enough about others to double mask?

Fortunately he’s experiencing mild symptoms probably due to his quad vax status, but firing folks who refused the shot look very punitive at this point.

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Severe COVID is a disease of the unvaccinated


Jun 15, 2022, 3:12 PM
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fixed it for you

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rons1 be like


Jun 15, 2022, 3:14 PM
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.

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Re: rons1 be like


Jun 15, 2022, 3:51 PM
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You just shidd yourself with that attempt at playing the pigeon hole game.

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Re: Severe COVID is a disease of the unvaccinated


Jun 15, 2022, 3:38 PM [ in reply to Severe COVID is a disease of the unvaccinated ]
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CubMD said:

fixed it for you


CubMD said:

fixed it for you


True. I said as much. I took both shots. I’ve taken one booster. I’m holding off on another booster until such booster offers more protection than the original shot.

My point is that a lot of folks were demonized for not taking the shot which we now know does not prevent infection nor spread of the disease.

We were led to believe that if only everyone took the vaccine we could “shut down” the virus.

Maybe we could’ve had a chance with that had we been able to quickly vaccinate the entire world early on.

Nuance guys. I’m not anti vaccine, but much of what we were told just wasn’t ultimately true.

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gotcha, and yes and no


Jun 15, 2022, 3:53 PM
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studies I've read show that there is less transmission in higher % vaccinated populations. Studies won't ever really be that good because they aren't controlled, just retrospective, but is what it is

Makes sense, less sick you are, less viral load, less transmission

Every vaccine has some non responders and breakthrough infections, just covid was higher

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Re: gotcha, and yes and no


Jun 15, 2022, 3:55 PM
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Agree.

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Back when it was 90% effective


Jun 15, 2022, 4:00 PM [ in reply to gotcha, and yes and no ]
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6 people in my office all on the same day, which is 100% of the people that were in my office that day got covid. 1 client and 5 coworkers. I knew they were full of #### for sure that day. They had to have similar data. They started coming clean about that time too and started to admit that the vaccine did not prevent transmission.

Supposedly it was 90% effective. 6 out of 6 people at 90% effective would be a (.1)^6 chance that all got it or 1 in 1 million chance.

It had to take its course. All the fear mongering in the world was not going to change a thing.

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and I would say your data set probably


Jun 15, 2022, 4:28 PM
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not statistically significant

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583


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that's my point


Jun 15, 2022, 5:11 PM
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they are clearly full of ####

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Since NBC omitted the study


Jun 21, 2022, 12:14 PM
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here it is.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.28.21264260v2.full-text


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15 days to slow the spread!***


Jun 15, 2022, 3:53 PM [ in reply to Re: Severe COVID is a disease of the unvaccinated ]
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yeah that was about as accurate


Jun 15, 2022, 4:28 PM
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as preseason football polls

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Good....Goooood......


Jun 21, 2022, 11:37 AM [ in reply to Re: Severe COVID is a disease of the unvaccinated ]
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Yes, you were "led" to believe......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzl_oJ0a_dw

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Agree.


Jun 15, 2022, 3:24 PM
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It should be their choice if they want to risk death and/or cause it to mutate to something worse.

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Wait, the slash separated troof from fiction


Jun 15, 2022, 4:24 PM
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Vaccines help you not die. Natural immunity helps you not die (but with a greater chance of dying getting immunity). That's it. Nothing prevents, or stops transmission. We literally lack the biology to stop transmission of viruses that inhibit MHC1 expression. That's colds, flu, HIV, and many other viruses. We can't stop those viruses. There is no such thing as "natural" immunity with those viruses, to stop them. Covid is on that list. "Immunity" with covid is only how well you clear the virus once infected.

The flow chart starts with an infected cell releasing MHC1 markers. Step two you have interferons that pick up on the MHC1 markers and call in T cells. T cells identify the virus call in the best antibodies to kill the virus. Covid short circuits our immunity literally AT STEP #1, before step 1 really.

Then there's a backend process after infection where your immune system is damaged. T cells are attacked and killed by even mild covid infections. So when you recover, you're overall going to have a weaker (normal) immune response to the next infection, which occurs in about 7 months on average. While all this is going on, the virus is mutating, and the new variants end up having to "vary" less and less to reinfect you, as your immune system is weaker. Then you're exposed to a variant, MHC1 is blocked, and you get infected again, with less T cells to respond, with antibodies that are not perfect as it has mutated, and then you get sick again, recover, but with a few less T cells. Repeat process.

We knew MHC1 was blocked by covid in May of 2020, thanks to China. Study below is why vaccines and natural immunity don't work. Shown LONG before vaccines. I didn't trust Fauci long before covid anyway. Goes back to H1N1 in 2009.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7189399/


This decreases interferon response, also seen in 2020. Again all this is before the mighty T cells come into play. You know, the cells we were told would save us and end the pandemic and give us "herd immunity".
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7249038/

And then you have post covid T cell apoptosis, which causes lower killer T cells, and white cell counts in covid patients. This, BTW, opens people up to more OTHER viruses and infections, causing rare viruses we normally handle, to cause many more illnesses due to weakened immune systems. Plus, common viruses present as more severe, or with different symptoms.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26742

And finally, you have Omicron attacking T cells directly, and it's attaching to them and killing them using different cell attachment and entry mechanisms, not ACE 2 like it uses in normal cells.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-022-00919-x


So in summary, Fauci is full of crap. Has been since day 1, before day one, was last decade. Covid won't go away because of what it does on both the front end of infection, and what it leaves you with after you recover. There are many other impacts, but these are the most important ones to know. Over time we will die less from it, but the living with it part is what will be toughest. There will be many mysteries we just don't understand. Like mysterious inflation, mysterious labor shortages, mysterious hepatitis in kids, mysterious monkeypox, mysterious fungal infections,....it will be a long and growing list.

But that's the role of the Fauci's of the world, and the Biden's and the Trump's of the world. As long as we can blame them for everything, all is well. And if they won't accept responsibility, there's always Putin.

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Re: COVID is a disease of the unvaccinated ?


Jun 15, 2022, 4:51 PM
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Well I had Covid 19 months ago and I remain unvaccinated so I guess it’s a disease of the unvaccinated. Well, except for every single vaccinated person I know who has also had Covid. Got it.

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