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CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire
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CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 3:15 PM

With our RB depth, guys should be lining up to come here. They'd get playing time.

Bama, UGA, and OSU sign 5 star RBs every year that sit on the bench. Please don't use the excuse that we can't sign someone because they'll be behind Shipley and Mafah.

This is legitimately concerning that we can't get one high level player to sign.

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We have heard the same about you


Dec 7, 2022, 3:16 PM

Are you moving on ?

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Re: We have heard the same about you


Dec 7, 2022, 3:18 PM

Deflection post #1

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We have heard the same about you


Dec 7, 2022, 3:20 PM

truth hurts LOL

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Re: We have heard the same about you


Dec 7, 2022, 5:32 PM

He’s got an excellent point.

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i'm cool..


Dec 7, 2022, 3:17 PM



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Geville Tiger on 2021 football season, "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


His players play well and are one of the


Dec 7, 2022, 3:22 PM

Strengths of the team.

Based on that, I would not say he was a bad hire, but I share your concern about RB recruiting.

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Clemson has NEVER been "Running Back U". That is why it


Dec 7, 2022, 3:22 PM

was such a huge deal when Spiller himself decided to come here. And, let's face it, he was almost a Unicorn.

If you develop a GREAT offensive line, ANY quality running back will look good. The best running back in the world will look mediocre behind a bad offensive line at times. Even ETN had to work hard for his yards here, and neither he NOR the line was what you call "mediocre".

If I had to pick, I would go for the Top Quality O-Line players AND COACHES, and get some able bodied running backs to run behind them that do not have to have a galaxy of stars beside their name. That is pretty much the model the NFL is going to.

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He was a great RB here and Dabo thinks he’s perfect for the job


Dec 7, 2022, 3:23 PM

so you must be wrong.

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Cobbox on Brad Brownell: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Passive aggressive Jealousy Jab by JK


Dec 7, 2022, 8:50 PM

Call them out when they happen.

Same as when he criticized womens softball, football many many times, charity causes.

Always Jealousy Jabs at football.

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 3:23 PM

Per Rivals, Alabama has 2 in the last 5 classes. Want to rethink your argument?

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I'm wondering who our last RB to enter the draft early was?


Dec 7, 2022, 3:32 PM

Otherwise this 5 star guy some want is apparently ready to come here and get 3-5 carries a game like Pace for two years. Bless their hearts!

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Wayne Gallman left as a RS JR***


Dec 7, 2022, 3:35 PM



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And with a 4 year degree


Dec 7, 2022, 3:42 PM

he had a year he could have stayed but is that early? The only 2 we've had who you would say could have left early were CJ and ETN. Even Terry Allen way back was here 4 years with his redshirt year

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He left early... spin it however you want***


Dec 7, 2022, 5:57 PM



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But right now many seem to be assuming Ship and


Dec 7, 2022, 8:03 PM

Mafah are gone after 3 years, something I don't believe has ever happened. Maybe Ronald Williams way back when, and he went undrafted

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Ed Zachary***


Dec 7, 2022, 8:07 PM



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Is he related to Travis


Dec 7, 2022, 8:09 PM

who didn't leave early either?

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Listen, Wayne left early. Quit trying to spin it...


Dec 7, 2022, 8:16 PM

It's important.

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And parlayed that into a 4th round, non guaranteed contract


Dec 7, 2022, 8:30 PM

I loved Wayne, heck of a back. What we don't know is these guys family situations. I'm glad it worked out for Wayne. 4 years in the league off the bat and still bouncing around. Tough son of a gun.

Know nothing about Mafah's situation, I do know Ship has no concerns.

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None of that changes the truth of the matter though, Wayne


Dec 7, 2022, 10:11 PM

left early

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It's the truth, that usually matters***


Dec 7, 2022, 10:11 PM



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You asked a question and I accurately answered it, I don't


Dec 7, 2022, 10:09 PM

know what else to tell you...I'm sorry it didn't fit your narrative

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 3:24 PM

Why don’t you move on to one of those. I’ll but you a shirt

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 3:26 PM

Just speculating, but how many 5 star OL recruits does Bama, UGA and OSU sign each year vs Clemson. A dominant OL can make an RB. I feel like Spiller may have been the best college RB in history when you compare the talent at OL that he had (compared to the best OL teams in the country)

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You haven't seen Ship and Mafah run the ball?


Dec 7, 2022, 3:37 PM

You might want to watch some film.

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I'm not saying he's proven himself, but we haven't signed


Dec 7, 2022, 3:37 PM

the 5 star backs in the past like the programs you mentioned. Unlike JK and our basketball team though, I don't think past failures to do something means you shouldn't continue to try. I do think it might have been more difficult to recruit with Pace being on roster as now you had someone already well positioned in the program not getting reps. I'm not covering for CJ Spiller, to me the jury is still out. I'm saying something about our program keeps it from happening. Poor blocking? Negative recruiting? Lack of heisman trophy? I don't know what it is. Hoping CJ can turn it around. Me personally I would give him another 18 months to 2 years before I gave up on him but that's me.

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And so it begins…


Dec 7, 2022, 3:43 PM

I was wondering who the next fan whipping boy would be. Last year it was Tony Elliott/DJ. This year it was DJ. Get ready, CJ because you’re next.

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Re: And so it begins…


Dec 8, 2022, 7:52 AM

Ever since the CEOs started showing up we've had whipping boys presented. CJ has already had a taste of venom . Last year he was running off the good ones, failing to develop the remaining talent and wholly unsuccessful recruiting.

I'm glad we have the CEOs on here. They keep me humble and enlightened.

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He needs two home run RB recruits in the next cycle


Dec 7, 2022, 3:44 PM

N/A

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Re: He needs two home run RB recruits in the next cycle


Dec 8, 2022, 8:13 AM

When have we really ever had a homerun recruit for running back? We don’t get a lot of 5 star backs. Spiller, Bellamy, Bowman, Ship. That’s all I can think of since 08 and only 2 of them made it longer than a full season. ETN was our last recruit that cycle and nobody knew who he was. Wayne was a 4 star.

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I just LOL at people that think postition coaches are


Dec 7, 2022, 3:47 PM

singularly responsible for recruiting and signing players at the position in which they coach.

That's not how this works.

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He is the primary***


Dec 7, 2022, 3:57 PM



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Oh yeah, you would know


Dec 7, 2022, 4:04 PM

LOL

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?***


Dec 7, 2022, 4:06 PM



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Sorry that went over your head


Dec 7, 2022, 4:07 PM

LOL

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Guess so...***


Dec 7, 2022, 4:09 PM



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Apparently


Dec 7, 2022, 4:10 PM

LOL

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puh -lease***


Dec 7, 2022, 3:47 PM



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Idiot Post of the Day***


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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 4:19 PM

Coaches recruit by territory, not position

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I was just going to let him keep talking.***


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Dec 7, 2022, 5:36 PM

LOL - you must be the guy who never posts "spoiler alert" before you give away the ending!

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 4:28 PM

Exactly. Great example is Jarvis Green #4 out of Dutch Fork HS in Irmo, SC. He is a 3 or 4 star depending on who grading. Over 3000 all purpose yards, 41 touchdowns in route to State 5A championship. Coach Spiller told him that he has him #3 RB choice. Outstanding young man and lifelong Clemson fan. I know the family and Jarvis would fit the program.

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Wow - I wouldn't call him heavily recruited


Dec 7, 2022, 5:15 PM

Not saying he's not a great guy and may be able to make it in college. But this is pulling at strings a bit. I say CJ is doing an excellent job as position coach. Our RB's run hard and with tons of heart and effort. Recruiting will come along (success breeds success).

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/jarvis-green-283394?view=pv

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 6:03 PM

so go recruit him, he committed to JMU.

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 5:19 PM

Trust me when I say Spiller is the least of our coaching concerns.

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Want to haul in rb’s consistently, then get a good OL


Dec 7, 2022, 5:27 PM

We are getting better there this year, but still a long way to go to getting to uga/bama OL level

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 6:00 PM

Perhaps you should go interview for the position... since you know so much and all.

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 7:08 PM

I disagree that players should be lining up to come to Clemson. Why would you come here to be a third string running back? Shipley and Mafah are firmly is established as one and two.

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I wouldn’t go as far as bad hire but…


Dec 7, 2022, 7:12 PM

He needs some help recruiting and developing a board. It seems from the outside looking in that he has too narrow a board and needs to cast a wider net. Just my opinion.

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 8:15 PM

I think we have been good with running backs the past several years. We all should have learned by now that star rating doesn’t mean ####. Look at all the 5 star qbs we have had sitting on the bench or starting and not panning out

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 8:57 PM

Tiger”fans” are deeply concerning to me!!!

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 7, 2022, 9:02 PM

I suggest the OP meets with Coach Spiller at the PAW to discuss his concerns. We’ll sell tickets.

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Again. Position coaches recruit an area.


Dec 7, 2022, 10:12 PM

Not a position!! Why do none of you know this?!

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Re: CJ Spiller looks like a bad hire


Dec 8, 2022, 9:56 AM

So many disingenuous fans commenting on this post with the "we've never been great at recruiting RBs"

Who Tony Elliot signed as RB coach

Demarckus Bowman, 5 star, #20
Tavien Feaster, 5 star, #29
Will Shipley, 5 star, #32
Tyshon Dye, 4 star, #165
Phil Mafah, 4 star, #188
Travis Etienne, 4 star, #213
Chez Mellusi, 4 star, #241
Lyn-J Dixon, 4 star, #258
Adam Choice, 4 star, #261
Wayne Gallman, 4 star, #312
Kobe Pace, 3 star, #451
Mikey Dukes, 3 star, #927

Who CJ Spiller has signed as RB coach

Keith Adams Jr, 3 star, #1462 (last resort)
He's currently after Jamarius Haynes, unranked (last resort)

Spiller has been pathetic. He has missed on 10 RB recruits and will likely sign a last resort RB in back to back classes. We can only hope that we utilize the portal once Shipley and Mafah leave. Because RB depth is going to be a serious problem. We're going to be one injury away from having a walk-on, and two last resort RBs as serious contributors. That's embarrassing.

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