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Are we spending too much on basketball?
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Are we spending too much on basketball?

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Jan 17, 2022, 1:28 AM

Right now our budget is 7.9 million to miss the tournament 75% of the time. Maybe we should have a budget more in line with schools that do very well in basketball.

For example:
Oklahoma State consistently performs well in a power 5 conference and they only spend 6.0 million

Dayton regularly makes the tournament and spends about 5.6 million a year

VCU spends about 6.1 million

Cincinnati, a football school with a tremendous basketball program spends under 7 million

And Butler spends around 5.5 million and has a great basketball program



It seems like there’s too much on Brad’s plate managing that huge budget. It’s pretty obvious that managing a smaller budget like these schools has really benefitted them and helped them regularly make the tournament. I think we need to give Brad a much smaller budget or find a coach who can manage a large budget like ours.

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Oh boy

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Jan 17, 2022, 1:59 AM

Judge is gonna love this

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Would you whine less if we spent less? How stupid do you

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Jan 17, 2022, 2:00 AM

have to be to compare our budget to Dayton?

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It is kinda dumb to compare our budget to Dayton

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Jan 17, 2022, 2:06 AM

Because they are in a larger city so things cost more. It would be like if we had a budget of 10 million. What a burden.

Anyone who goes to games sees all those assistants and analysts and support staff. It’s too much. That’s why Brad is such a failure at end of game strategy and substitution patterns. Too much data. Paralysis by analysis. He needs to streamline it like these schools that are a great example of what a reasonable budget can achieve.

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Are they competing in the ACC too tard? Can you come up

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Jan 17, 2022, 2:13 AM

with an apples to apples comparison for your next troll? Do you even know what that is?

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They're in the same conference as Saint Bonaventure

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Jan 17, 2022, 5:51 AM

who beat us this year. The comparison isn't as stupid as you're making it out to be. The ACC only has 1 ranked team this year and another 1 in the "others receiving votes" category. I guess Gonzaga would be a bad comparison as well since they're in the WCC with Portland, Pacific, Pepperdine, San Diego and San Francisco.

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Gonzaga spends $9.9 million a year on men’s basketball.***


Jan 17, 2022, 10:33 AM

That’s $2 million more a year than we spend.

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Their coach seems to handle that huge budget very well


Jan 17, 2022, 10:46 AM

Perhaps we could find a coach to manage a huge budget. But seems like many great basketball schools are wisely giving their coach a reasonable budget. I think the data shows us that this is Brad’s issue.

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Re: Are they competing in the ACC too tard? Can you come up

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Jan 17, 2022, 6:50 AM

You sound like a coot saying we have to play football in the SEC. ACC basketball has been mediocre for several years now and is horrible this year. Why do people defend a coach that has 3 NCAA tournament wins over a 20 year HC career?

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Sadly, "competing in the ACC" ain't even what it once was.

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Jan 17, 2022, 8:43 AM

You could take one of Dean Smith's good teams, or a Rat Face good team, or even a Bobby Cremins Mark Price type team, and run roughshod over what the ACC has become. Still no excuse for Clemson NEVER winning it via the tournament in all these years.

That being said, I don't think we give enough credit to Cliff Ellis 1990 team that won the ACC REGULAR SEASON title for the only time in our history. That team actually beat a #5 Ranked Rat Face team in Littlejohn late in the season to do it. You want to know how different the ACC was back then?

HALFTIME score of that game was Dook leading 53-51.

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That rude question didn’t go how you though it would


Jan 17, 2022, 9:29 AM

Did it Judge?

They compete in a much better basketball conference than the ACC.

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Jan 17, 2022, 9:33 AM

CM Shack now equals Judge Keller®

Baaaaahhaaaaahhaaa!

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Whatever you say coachmac***


Jan 17, 2022, 1:59 PM



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Re: It is kinda dumb to compare our budget to Dayton

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Jan 17, 2022, 9:43 AM

Stuff is dirt cheap in Dayton. Dayton is one of the worst cities in America. It's probably a quarter empty and gangs control much of what's left. You can literally see the gang graffiti on every bridge, overpass, and even tall buildings as you pass the city on I-75.

There's still some folks fighting hard to bring the downtown area back, and they actually do have a great craft beer scene, but that city is mostly a hole and most folks who still live there with money live well outside the city.

The university is right downtown. Smack-dab in the middle of all that.

Once you get out of the likes of Cincinnati and Columbus, the cost of living is dirt-cheap in Ohio. Again, except for central Ohio, the rest of the state is losing population and has been for at least the last 20 years.

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Re: Are we spending too much on basketball?


Jan 17, 2022, 2:17 AM

Weslichick said:

Right now our budget is 7.9 million to miss the tournament 75% of the time. Maybe we should have a budget more in line with schools that do very well in basketball.

For example:
Oklahoma State consistently performs well in a power 5 conference and they only spend 6.0 million

Dayton regularly makes the tournament and spends about 5.6 million a year

VCU spends about 6.1 million

Cincinnati, a football school with a tremendous basketball program spends under 7 million

And Butler spends around 5.5 million and has a great basketball program



It seems like there’s too much on Brad’s plate managing that huge budget. It’s pretty obvious that managing a smaller budget like these schools has really benefitted them and helped them regularly make the tournament. I think we need to give Brad a much smaller budget or find a coach who can manage a large budget like ours.



70 - 56 ????

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Are you trying to prove or disprove his point?


Jan 17, 2022, 5:26 AM

Hard to tell because how much the coots spend on MBB is hard to find

This is the only budget breakdown I could find and it doesn’t mention it


https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-south-carolina-columbia/student-life/sports/


Frank does make 3.3 million so maybe the dirtpeckers have a bigger problem than we do

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The Coots spend $8.2 million on men’s basketball.***


Jan 17, 2022, 10:44 AM



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Re: Are we spending too much on basketball?


Jan 17, 2022, 2:17 AM

Weslichick said:

Right now our budget is 7.9 million to miss the tournament 75% of the time. Maybe we should have a budget more in line with schools that do very well in basketball.

For example:
Oklahoma State consistently performs well in a power 5 conference and they only spend 6.0 million

Dayton regularly makes the tournament and spends about 5.6 million a year

VCU spends about 6.1 million

Cincinnati, a football school with a tremendous basketball program spends under 7 million

And Butler spends around 5.5 million and has a great basketball program



It seems like there’s too much on Brad’s plate managing that huge budget. It’s pretty obvious that managing a smaller budget like these schools has really benefitted them and helped them regularly make the tournament. I think we need to give Brad a much smaller budget or find a coach who can manage a large budget like ours.



70 - 56 ????

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Re: Are we spending too much on basketball?


Jan 17, 2022, 2:17 AM

Weslichick said:

Right now our budget is 7.9 million to miss the tournament 75% of the time. Maybe we should have a budget more in line with schools that do very well in basketball.

For example:
Oklahoma State consistently performs well in a power 5 conference and they only spend 6.0 million

Dayton regularly makes the tournament and spends about 5.6 million a year

VCU spends about 6.1 million

Cincinnati, a football school with a tremendous basketball program spends under 7 million

And Butler spends around 5.5 million and has a great basketball program



It seems like there’s too much on Brad’s plate managing that huge budget. It’s pretty obvious that managing a smaller budget like these schools has really benefitted them and helped them regularly make the tournament. I think we need to give Brad a much smaller budget or find a coach who can manage a large budget like ours.



70 - 56 ????

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Re: Are we spending too much on basketball?

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Jan 17, 2022, 5:19 AM

I don't know if we are spending too much money ,but I would suggest spending s little more time searching for a coach who can at least make us the the football version of a Duke or UNC.I mean if they cam make a post season bowl game ,we should at least be able to win a first round home game in the prestigious NIT.

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Definitely

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Jan 17, 2022, 7:17 AM

I wish we could cut the basketball program entirely. I'm not a fan, and could care less.

Not to mention, no more insccesant whiny posts about why we're not any good.

In a perfect world we'd replace our basketball program with a knitting team.

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Re: Are we spending too much on basketball?

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Jan 17, 2022, 7:18 AM

Weslichick said:

Right now our budget is 7.9 million to miss the tournament 75% of the time. Maybe we should have a budget more in line with schools that do very well in basketball.

For example:
Oklahoma State consistently performs well in a power 5 conference and they only spend 6.0 million

Dayton regularly makes the tournament and spends about 5.6 million a year

VCU spends about 6.1 million

Cincinnati, a football school with a tremendous basketball program spends under 7 million

And Butler spends around 5.5 million and has a great basketball program



It seems like there’s too much on Brad’s plate managing that huge budget. It’s pretty obvious that managing a smaller budget like these schools has really benefitted them and helped them regularly make the tournament. I think we need to give Brad a much smaller budget or find a coach who can manage a large budget like ours.



You seem to be a moron so I will help you understand. For many reasons Clemson has been bad at basketball for much of the last 100 years. We don’t have the luxury of spending a nominal amount and not be terrible. As it stands we are in the lower half in spending but typically finish in the top half of the ACC so we are getting good value for our money. If you have other questions don’t hesitate to reach out

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Re: Are we spending too much on basketball?

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Jan 17, 2022, 8:31 AM

Hang your head if you TUd this post

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Did he just call me


Jan 17, 2022, 10:21 AM

The idiot poster of the day??

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So long as not even a nickel comes out of student fees

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Jan 17, 2022, 9:00 AM

they can spend whatever they want. As a parent paying two tuition bills, my views on college scholarship sports has become increasingly negative. At William and Mary about $5k goes straight to the athletic dept. The teams never amount to much, and students pretty much stay away from the events primarily because 1)academics are their priority and 2)Phuckabunch of freeloaders playing games.

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Jan 17, 2022, 1:15 PM

Did you see Meatballs with Bill Murray? Do you remember when he told the kids "It just doesn't matter"? That's Clemson Basketball.

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