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All-TigerNet [10866]
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PSA - you can't trust the FDA. This is just the latest
Jul 1, 2022, 2:18 PM
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evidence. I also recommend looking into the terrible nutrition guidance from the US government and the long term diseases it causes, such as diabetus (sic) and heart disease.
Yep, it's a blog. It links to the FDA announcement so stuff it bluetards.
https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/the-end-of-covid-19-vaccine-safety
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Oculus Spirit [97663]
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I'm still holding firm there won't be an updated formula
Jul 1, 2022, 2:22 PM
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Because it won't matter. They are making the new one from BA.5 right now because they STARTED (and started testing) one with a BA.1 formula, only to learn BA.1 provides little immunity to BA.5 that is going around now. And by the time you get that BA.5 vaccine, there will be something else.
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All-In [31847]
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You're discussing vaccine variants with a guy...
Jul 1, 2022, 2:24 PM
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who thinks the whole thing was/is a hoax.
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Oculus Spirit [97663]
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I know. It isn't. But he and I agree on one thing.
Jul 1, 2022, 3:54 PM
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We've been lied to. I'll agree with him on that. He thinks it's just a cold and the whole thing was a plandemic to get a democrat in the Whitehouse, or whatever. I think it's worse than they have acknowledged, he thinks it's not as bad as they acknowledge.
Three big things never mentioned by "experts" who have a TV camera or a bureaucratic position. One, MHC1 suppression is big. It's why there will never be herd immunity and why vaccines won't work to stop the virus, OR our own immunity. Look it up. MHC1 comes before antibodies, before T cells, and before interferons. We literally lack the biology to stop transmission. Some notable viruses that suppress (downregulate) MHC1 expression by infected cells are HIV, Herpes, influenza, common cold, etc. Second big thing not mentioned is T cell death (apoptosis)..look that up. Covid kills T cells, certain ones, and the T cell death is NOT only in severe cases. And vaccines have little impact on preventing t cell death, AND it builds with each reinfection. And it opens us up to things like RSV and flu outbreaks in the summer, monkeypox and meningitis from #### sex, more severe rhinoviruses, and even children with hepatitis. Third thing is covid impairs the body's natural ability to metabolize lipids..look that up. This is a big deal, and SARS did the same thing. It impacts the way your mitochondria extract ATP, the way you get energy. It's the reason for chronic fatigue and the reason many survivors have an intolerance to exercise and exertion.
Below is a list of lies:
It is not airborne. It is.
It does not transmit as an aerosol. It does.
6 feet of distance (droplet transmission)wrong.
Plexiglass helps. Total BS.
Wash your hands, it is on surfaces. BS.
The virus is slow to mutate. It isn't.
Herd immunity will end it. It won't.
Vaccines stop transmission? They don't.
Natural immunity stops transmission. It doesn't.
Long covid is not real. It is.
Only severe cases get long covid. Not true.
Only the elderly are at risk. They are not the only ones.
Children are safe. They're not.
Plaxovid will keep you safe. It won't.
The pandemic is over. No it isn't.
This is a pandemic. No it isn't. Influenza isn't a pandemic, just novel strains. Same with covid. We're on our 6th covid pandemic.
Masks are useless and don't help (original Fauci lie). Wrong.
Probably left a few out. But these are all proven lies.
The vaccines help you not die or be put in a hospital. That's about it. And I'm not sure any reformulated vaccine will make any bigger difference. Omicron variants have been shown to provide very little protection to subsequent omicron reinfections with different variants.
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I was hoping this thing would die like the
Jul 1, 2022, 4:03 PM
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Spanish flu, well not die, but mutate to a less virulant strain.
I think it has as far as disease severity, but infection numbers (climbing back up) lasting longer than I remember the 1918 flu lasting.
I agree this will never go away. Anyone who debates the vaccine doesn't work on disease severity is fooling themselves, but yeah it ain't gonna eradicate it.
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The "novel" part was the hoax, along with the supposedly
Jul 1, 2022, 4:08 PM
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high mortality rate, which was really caused by overcounting and by hospital protocols that killed people.
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I say this with utmost respect
Jul 1, 2022, 4:13 PM
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you're freaking crazy
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All-TigerNet [10866]
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Maybe, but I'm right.***
Jul 1, 2022, 4:30 PM
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All-TigerNet [12107]
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No no sir, you are not
Jul 1, 2022, 4:34 PM
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and I just deleted comments was going to post, because it is a little personal for me, but you could not be further from the truth.
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sure. The FDA is approving drugs with literally 0 safety
Jul 1, 2022, 4:35 PM
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testing, and I'm the crazy one. Keep believing that.
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All-TigerNet [12107]
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last word***
Jul 1, 2022, 4:39 PM
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Look at the FDA and the CDC as groups that are focused on population health
Jul 1, 2022, 5:04 PM
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and not individual health.
They care about the common good, especially as it relates to keeping as many people alive as possible. They are not experts in optimal health for the individual, extending quality of life, and thinking outside the box to accomplish super health for you and me.
This is why they are all about vaccines and hygiene (the basics when it comes to pandemics such as COVID) and are not focused on other interventions such as vitamin D, ivermectin, etc. In an ideal world, they would encourage all of these things. But because they are focused on population health and can thus only use data that shows proven benefit in large studies, they can’t/don’t.
If you can’t see the COVID vaccine as a significant win for science as it relates to the pandemic, I don’t know what to tell you. No, it isn’t perfect. No, it wasn’t as effective on subsequent strains of the virus. But it saved many thousands of lives, with very very few side effects.
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Re: Look at the FDA and the CDC as groups that are focused on population health
Jul 1, 2022, 6:59 PM
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I only wish my dad would've had the option of the vaccine before he spent a month dying alone in the ICU
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