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You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American
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You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:04 PM

peps can blast me all you want but I am sticking to my Christian moral beliefs. We give you guys an inch but you end up taking miles and miles. You stopped Dabo from accepting an award, now you want the confederate flag banned. What's next the American flag, the National Anthem or maybe the Tiger Paw logo because it may be offensive to animal rights activates. I mean really where will it stop! Now Walmart has stopped selling the confederate flag so what is next on your agenda! By the way those who have a confederate flag tattooed on your arm should have your arm amputated so you want offend somebody.

We use to have people with grit and backbone who would stand up for their beliefs, but now most people when confronted with an issue fold like a cheap seat. This is still America the land of the free and the home of the brave? Or is it???

I am so sick of this politically correct world we now live in. I may not make a difference. If I go down , I will go down fighting. We have sat back far to long allowing morally bankrupt, corrupt people take control of our government, schools, churches, groups like the Boy Scouts and even youth sports. Now it is time to take a stand and fight for our beliefs and morals. And I am sick of these liberal groups telling me how to think, how to live a politically correct lifestyle and especially trying to tell me what is right and what is wrong.

People better wake up and start fighting for their rights. It is unbelievable as to how many personal freedoms we have lost in the name of national security or what is now politically correct! This has occurred in just the last 10 to 15 years.

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:07 PM

It's clear you feel passionately about this topic.

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Summa cum laude. Magna cum laude. The radio’s too loudy.


In his ignorance.


Jul 4, 2015, 4:13 PM

nm

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:11 PM

Middle class Americans which are the backbone of this nation.
Are definitely getting screwed over, soon we will either be rich or poor.

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Hunger Games.***


Jul 4, 2015, 5:46 PM



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"When I was young, I was sure of many things; now there are only two things of which I am sure: one is, that I am a miserable sinner; and the other, that Christ is an all-sufficient Saviour. He is well-taught who learns these two lessons." -John Newton


^^^^This ^^^


Jul 4, 2015, 6:38 PM [ in reply to Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American ]

Rich get out of paying taxes and the poor can't.

Help is coming soon with the TPP. Thanks Obama, your "transparent" admin is awesome.

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:12 PM

SYFPHYDSCS

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:16 PM

Preach on Brothers !! Liberals are clearly destroying this country but they are too "intelligent" to realize it. When they do, it will be too late.

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:27 PM

first the flag, next they will take our first born to work in fema camps.

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some juan's got to make dem shoes so hillarys


Jul 3, 2015, 1:29 PM

can walk on water.

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Re: some juan's got to make dem shoes so hillarys


Jul 3, 2015, 1:35 PM

if we could just eliminate these stoopid, liberal child labor laws, we could become more competitive globally in the hi-heel and pump trade.

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absolutely, but they'll fack up a good thing & try to raise


Jul 3, 2015, 1:41 PM

the standard minimum wage or gawd forbid, pay the little urchins overtime.

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Re: absolutely, but they'll fack up a good thing & try to raise


Jul 3, 2015, 1:44 PM

it should be considered a good day when they return home with all their digits, and nothing mistakenly stitched to their torso.

now these lg loving kids want over time?

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cry babies...


Jul 3, 2015, 1:45 PM

all of them.

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I mean, look at how advanced England's economy


Jul 3, 2015, 2:56 PM

became when they could employ the chillen's during the industrial revolution

D@nm Charles Dickens had to go and ruin a good thing SMH

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Whatever you do, always give 100%.....unless it's donating blood


i don't know, seems the perfect whey


Jul 3, 2015, 3:01 PM




to separate the wheat from the chaff.

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Re: some juan's got to make dem shoes so hillarys


Jul 3, 2015, 3:37 PM [ in reply to Re: some juan's got to make dem shoes so hillarys ]

The way certain people pump out children, this could be great for out country

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Somehow I don't think you're talking about gays.


Jul 4, 2015, 10:33 PM

Could be wrong, been wrong before, probably will again, maybe.

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Wal-Mart, e-bay, Amazon, etc. ban on Confederate


Jul 3, 2015, 1:15 PM

memorabilia equates to more opportunities for locally-owned retailers - plus a few intrepid hucksters should be able to pick up a lot of existing merchandise on the cheap while it's being recalled. Just sayin'. American way and all.

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You are losing this battle as bad as the Confederacy lost.***


Jul 3, 2015, 1:20 PM



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You could be right be its our kids and grandkids who are the


Jul 3, 2015, 1:27 PM

real losers if our generation continues to let the liberals run things. But like I said I am at least going to fight back.

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You going to seceded? Start a war?***


Jul 3, 2015, 1:32 PM



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going to seceded? awesome.***


Jul 3, 2015, 5:03 PM



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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


The trend is now that your "kids and grandkids" are more....


Jul 3, 2015, 1:41 PM [ in reply to You could be right be its our kids and grandkids who are the ]

likely to lean Liberal. Younger people are more liberal now than at any time in this country. Sorry but the "kids and grandkids" don't believe in the racism, sexism, homophobia, and xenophobia of their parents and grandparents.

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they will also be worse off.***


Jul 3, 2015, 5:04 PM



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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


You are right, the younger, less educated, less experienced


Jul 3, 2015, 5:41 PM [ in reply to The trend is now that your "kids and grandkids" are more.... ]

folks are mostly liberal. I once lived in a fantasy world also, but then grew up.

To suggest that only liberals are not racist, sexist, homophobic, and xenophobic only means you watch waaay too much MSNBC and have no way of really thinking for yourself.




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Re: You are right, the younger, less educated, less experienced


Jul 3, 2015, 6:23 PM

You're not on the side of facts if you're going to try to correlate lack of education & liberalism. The most educated areas of the country (Boston, San Francisco, Washington DC, New York) are historically also some of the most liberal.

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Re: You are right, the younger, less educated, less experienced


Jul 4, 2015, 9:00 PM

you left out other bastions of liberalism like Arkansas, Alabama, and missi...wait nevermind.

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With the most people, and most universities..


Jul 6, 2015, 8:32 PM [ in reply to Re: You are right, the younger, less educated, less experienced ]

There are lies, ###### lies, and statistics.

Look how liberalism aka socialism, is working in Greece.

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Bingo.***


Jul 4, 2015, 8:59 PM [ in reply to You are right, the younger, less educated, less experienced ]



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That's a straw man statement.


Jul 4, 2015, 10:38 PM [ in reply to The trend is now that your "kids and grandkids" are more.... ]

Falsely accusing the other side of racism and the like to demonize opponents is an effective strategy when one lead groups of unlearned to the slaughter. Carry on.


Message was edited by: ClemsonTiger1988®


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So, TigerQueen if you're not liberal


Jul 5, 2015, 6:21 PM [ in reply to The trend is now that your "kids and grandkids" are more.... ]

You're a racist, sexism, (think you meant sexist) and homophobic?

Thanks for that ignorant statement.

We're all dumber for it.

Or as you liberals would say, we are now enlightened by your doctrine

For the record, I don't like either party - do hate the arrogance and "my opinion is always right and I believe in free speech as long as it applies to my beliefs" of the liberals.

All in all GREAT post though! Seriously

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For relaxing times, make it Suntory time


I'm a Republican


Jul 5, 2015, 7:51 PM

But I believe in seperation of church and state and I believe no person should have civil liberties held from them nor any law made based on the foundations of religion. We must keep the church out of government or we become what England was when we fought so hard to gain religious freedom.

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Re: You are losing this battle as bad as the Confederacy lost.***


Jul 3, 2015, 7:33 PM [ in reply to You are losing this battle as bad as the Confederacy lost.*** ]

We lost??? Dude - it ain't over yet. We've got those damnyankees right where we want them.

It will be over when we WIN!! And not a moment sooner.

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Re: You are losing this battle as bad as the Confederacy lost.***


Jul 4, 2015, 5:56 PM

So, you're trying to make it so black people will be slaves again? Are you sure that's a good move?

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:20 PM

AMEN-AMEN-AMEN

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You are right on at least one count


Jul 3, 2015, 1:20 PM

We have lost personal freedoms in the name of national security. But you are still free to fly the confederate flag while others are free to burn it. You are still free to worship when, where and how you want, even to pray when and where you want. Just don't expect everybody to worship and pray the way you do. Freedom is the one thing we should always fight for. America is far from perfect, but it is still the best thing going.

Be safe and have a great holiday weekend.

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At least we have those freedoms for now! If we continue on


Jul 3, 2015, 1:35 PM

our present coarse those freedoms could be taken away just as quickly as many others have been. Let's not forget Hitler used a situation similar what is happening in the U.S. now to seize power and mesmerize the Germany people.

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How did this conversation become about Trump...?***


Jul 3, 2015, 1:58 PM



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Re: At least we have those freedoms for now! If we continue on


Jul 3, 2015, 6:16 PM [ in reply to At least we have those freedoms for now! If we continue on ]

> our present coarse those freedoms could be taken away
> just as quickly as many others have been. Let's not
> forget Hitler used a situation similar what is
> happening in the U.S. now to seize power and
> mesmerize the Germany people.

You might want to crack open a history book. Hitler exterminated homosexuals. That is quite the opposite from allowing them to marry whom they like.

The only "personal freedom" I see being taken away is the right some feel they have to condemn, ridicule and marginalize other americans whom they disagree with. You want to fly the confederate flag?...Govt can't stop you. You want to pray in school? Government can't stop you. You want to walk up and down the street condemn homosexuals...gov't can't stop you.

The idea that "Real American's" fight for the freedom to condemn and offend they're fellow citizens is....actually, more Hitleresque than what you propose.

Live and Let live. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Christianity is a great idea....I'd just love to see someone actually try it.

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We are like the 17th most free country in the world


Jul 3, 2015, 5:45 PM [ in reply to You are right on at least one count ]

Just putting that out there.

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Re: You are right on at least one count


Jul 3, 2015, 7:18 PM [ in reply to You are right on at least one count ]

Well said. I seldom agree with much that I read on here with political slant, especially those that express so much anger and hate.

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Re: You are right on at least one count


Jul 5, 2015, 2:04 PM [ in reply to You are right on at least one count ]

You are not free to worship if you are clergy or a business owner who cannot recognize gay marriage based on your religious belief when you are punished for it

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:21 PM

IMO, today's polical system is more of a corrupt business than anything else. Both sides are equally culpable as "our" public servants only interests are furthering their personal stature. Ultimately, they couldn't give a rat's a$$ about anyone but themselves.

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+1... Xactly. Hillary tweeting with de Rothschilds....***


Jul 3, 2015, 1:59 PM



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Did someone just watch 1993's "Falling Down"?


Jul 3, 2015, 1:27 PM

I imagine you and Michael Douglas' character have much in common.



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Re: Did someone just watch 1993's "Falling Down"?


Jul 3, 2015, 1:39 PM

AWESOME movie +1

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For relaxing times, make it Suntory time


Re:Tell them Hoss, I am too mad to.***


Jul 3, 2015, 1:29 PM



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You will not listen, but you use the term


Jul 3, 2015, 1:29 PM

"personal freedoms" when you really mean "imposing my beliefs upon others". Getting married to whomever one chooses, for example, is a "personal freedom". Telling a person he cannot get married because it goes against YOUR beliefs is imposing your way of thinking upon him and taking AWAY his personal freedom. I guess that makes me a "tree hugging lg supporter". Hmmm. That is ok with me as long as I am not a narrow minded person who believes that Jesus Christ would actually condone excluding people based on something as insignificant as sexual preference. How would Jesus feel about bigots?

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Re: You will not listen, but you use the term


Jul 3, 2015, 1:39 PM

which jesus are we talking about, the dinosaur riding juan, or the one that professes love and forgiveness?

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Yeah, I was always partial to the love and forgiveness one.***


Jul 3, 2015, 1:42 PM



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as usually you take the message or ones opinion and twist it


Jul 3, 2015, 1:45 PM [ in reply to You will not listen, but you use the term ]

to suit your purpose. I would exclude you or anyone from this country or from my church. What I don't like is it is your way and those who have differing opinions are narrow minded racist Christians. Sorry but I refuse to let you paint me into a corner because of my beliefs. Live you life as you like but don't shove down my throat as the only way that is right.

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You say "live life as I like"?


Jul 3, 2015, 1:49 PM

How is it shoving anything down YOUR throat for someone else to get married? Nobody is advocating having the National Guard drag you out of your house and to the alter to marry a gay man. Geesh! Some people are so dense!!!

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Then stop having Gay pride day and parades where you flaunt


Jul 3, 2015, 1:57 PM

your lifestyle on the general public. And if lg lifestyles are so normal why do you need government validation or a Supreme Court decision to give you rights God should have given you when he created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve???

And if lg lifestyle is normal why do you need major surgery to change your gender? Are you saying God made a mistake when you were created?

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The Supreme Court simply decided that the


Jul 3, 2015, 2:04 PM

United States Constitution, as it exists, protects the rights of everyone, even gay people. In earlier news, they also had to decide that black people cannot be owned by white people. Perhaps you missed that one. Seems like those black people should have been able to rely on a God-given right if they had one, doesn't it? Wonder why the Supreme Court had to step in. Oh yeah, it was because of people like you.

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Or really I should say Congress had to decide that blacks co


Jul 3, 2015, 2:13 PM

not be property, with the Supreme Court having to take that notion to its logical conclusion.

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Re: The Supreme Court simply decided that the


Jul 3, 2015, 3:08 PM [ in reply to The Supreme Court simply decided that the ]

God actually said it's ok to have slaves, so WUEagle is probably pretty upset about the whole "free black people" thing.

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Hey nobody is forcing you to attend Gay Pride parades...


Jul 3, 2015, 2:05 PM [ in reply to Then stop having Gay pride day and parades where you flaunt ]

that's your personal decision to attend gay pride parades. If you don't want to see gay pride parades, then next time don't go to the gay pride parade. And hey if you ever get a tumor, don't have surgery on it. Because your saying God made a mistake when he allowed you to contract a tumor.

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soon.***


Jul 3, 2015, 5:05 PM



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I actually was made to go to one


Jul 3, 2015, 5:51 PM [ in reply to Hey nobody is forcing you to attend Gay Pride parades... ]

I worked at UNC and the department I worked for set a booth out that day and I HAD to attend.

The things I saw that day would make me uncomfortable to watch if it were straight people doing it.

I am all for personal freedoms and what you do is your business, and I have no objection to the SCOTUS ruling, but do not ever say no one is making you go to a pride parade, because I was made to. I guess I could have strongly objected and pissed off my gay boss, but I wanted to have a steady pay check coming in.


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Re: Then stop having Gay pride day and parades where you flaunt


Jul 3, 2015, 6:28 PM [ in reply to Then stop having Gay pride day and parades where you flaunt ]

> your lifestyle on the general public. And if lg
> lifestyles are so normal why do you need government
> validation or a Supreme Court decision to give you
> rights God should have given you when he created Adam
> and Eve, not Adam and Steve???
>
> And if lg lifestyle is normal why do you need major
> surgery to change your gender? Are you saying God
> made a mistake when you were created?

For the exact same reason we needed the Supreme Court to:

Give women the vote

End segregation

End Jim Crow law

Give blacks the vote.

Give you the right to voice what ever hate-mongering, backwards condemation of others you so please without restriction by the government. Frankly, the Supreme Court has interceded dozens of times to protect American Freedom from guys like you.

Do right wing, psuedo-christians like yourself even think before you militarize and bastardize Christ's teachings in order to fit your extraordinarily self absorbed, backward narcistic view of the world? Ultimately, your problem is with how others behave. Which like my grandma said, "Aint none of your #### business."

Amen

Saint Felix2 of Tiger.

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This is comedy gold. The irony, it reeks.***


Jul 4, 2015, 10:05 PM [ in reply to Then stop having Gay pride day and parades where you flaunt ]



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So you're claiming to be for freedom, but you are posting...


Jul 3, 2015, 1:50 PM [ in reply to as usually you take the message or ones opinion and twist it ]

you don't want someone living the same country as you, simply because they have different beliefs than you. So what you're really saying is freedom is only allowed to people who agree with you, and people who don't agree with you should be denied freedom. So what you are really for is an apartheid system of government. Thanks for exposing your true beliefs.

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Re: So you're claiming to be for freedom, but you are posting...


Jul 3, 2015, 1:51 PM

To be fair, now that it's legal wueagle's boyfriend probably expects him to divorce his wife.

So much pressure on poor wueagle, can't keep his boyfriend in the closet no more.

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You know what I believe is that Jesus Christ is my savior


Jul 3, 2015, 2:42 PM [ in reply to So you're claiming to be for freedom, but you are posting... ]

and I try to live my life based on his teachings, his character and commandments. What I don't like are those who live in this country for the purpose of its destruction morally, economically or physically. I don't see black or white, Chinese or Russian. I look for a person with character that wants what's good for the country. But to many people have a me first attitude.

And I believe history repeats itself and we should learn from it. For example Sodom and Gomorrah, Germany and other countries that have received God's Judgement because they were morally bankrupt. I believe that Judgement on the U.S. Is near at hand.

I care about you regardless of what you think of me because I know what God has done for me and I want you to have the same blessings for you and everyone else.

And yes I think things like the confederate flag are trivial issues compared to many other issues we face. Yet 7 or 8 out of every 10 people will offer up an opinion about the confederate flag but only 1 or 2 of those 10 will stand up for their moral or Christian beliefs.

At no time have I mentioned the word hate or encouraged people to hate others. I have encouraged people to fight against things I feel are wrong and have a negative affect on society.

Most important if I am wrong about my beliefs and opinions I will be the one to answer to God just as you and everyone else will face judgement one day.

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Re: You know what I believe is that Jesus Christ is my savior


Jul 3, 2015, 2:52 PM

I too am for history not repeating itself, this is why we should also not raise dinosaur eggs. We saw what happened last time.



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Do said dinosaurs enjoy chickens and coots?***


Jul 4, 2015, 5:49 PM



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"When I was young, I was sure of many things; now there are only two things of which I am sure: one is, that I am a miserable sinner; and the other, that Christ is an all-sufficient Saviour. He is well-taught who learns these two lessons." -John Newton


Re: Do said dinosaurs enjoy chickens and coots?***


Jul 5, 2015, 4:38 PM

they pretty much are giant coots.

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+1,000,000


Jul 4, 2015, 6:04 PM [ in reply to Re: You know what I believe is that Jesus Christ is my savior ]

Meant to respond to that earlier

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what you call discovery & enlightenment, i call


Jul 4, 2015, 10:25 PM [ in reply to Re: You know what I believe is that Jesus Christ is my savior ]

the rape of the natural world.

...####### progressives.

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Re: You know what I believe is that Jesus Christ is my savior


Jul 3, 2015, 3:12 PM [ in reply to You know what I believe is that Jesus Christ is my savior ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGpJOfWNqtk

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Re: You know what I believe is that Jesus Christ is my savior


Jul 3, 2015, 3:22 PM [ in reply to You know what I believe is that Jesus Christ is my savior ]

It's obvious you don't understand morals. You're no different than the nut job Islamic fundamentalists in the middle east.

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Re: You know what I believe is that Jesus Christ is my savior


Jul 6, 2015, 10:28 AM

Class of 09, are you judging morals now? Perhaps we all have some questionable ideas or ideology about what's right and wrong?

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Re: You will not listen, but you use the term


Jul 3, 2015, 7:00 PM [ in reply to You will not listen, but you use the term ]

Jesus Himself said marriage is between a man and a woman. In several places The Bible -GOD's word says homosexuality is an abomination to Him.. Just sayin' if you gonna say what Jesus would do you better get your facts straight. BTW He also says love the sinner, hate the sin.

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Re: You will not listen, but you use the term


Jul 3, 2015, 8:18 PM

> Jesus Himself said marriage is between a man and a
> woman. In several places The Bible -GOD's word says
> homosexuality is an abomination to Him.. Just sayin'
> if you gonna say what Jesus would do you better get
> your facts straight. BTW He also says love the
> sinner, hate the sin.

This is a Democratic Republic. We do not make into law what God said. Freedom of religion also means freedom "from" religion. Get over it, or take it up with Thomas Jefferson.

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But, see, in America, we can do and worship as we please.


Jul 4, 2015, 1:27 AM [ in reply to Re: You will not listen, but you use the term ]

If Jesus says marriage is between a man and a woman, but Mr. Ed says a horse can get in the mix, I have every right to go with what Mr. Ed says and marry a thoroughbred. If I belong to the Horses of Another Color Church, which condones my marriage, I am all good (and still a patriotic American). And I still happen to personally believe that Jesus would not kick me out of his prayer meeting.

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God loves everyone but he also stated marriage as one man


Jul 3, 2015, 11:56 PM [ in reply to You will not listen, but you use the term ]

and one woman. His word never changes, sorry.

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Re: God loves everyone but he also stated marriage as one man


Jul 4, 2015, 12:18 PM

As a Christian, you don't have to believe gay marriage is ok.

However, as an American, you should be for allowing gay marriage.

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As a Christian I follow God's teachings which don't change


Jul 4, 2015, 10:51 PM

with every whim.

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Re: As a Christian I follow God's teachings which don't change


Jul 5, 2015, 12:08 AM

That's fine. But as an American, who believes in freedom of religion, shouldn't you believe in the concept of freedom of religion?

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Yes, and you have freedom of religion


Jul 5, 2015, 1:59 AM

No one makes laws not allowing you to worship God. No one makes laws not allowing you to go to church. You have that right and others have the right to not have their freedoms infringed on because they don't believe those things.

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Re: Yes, and you have freedom of religion


Jul 5, 2015, 2:12 AM

But part of that would be to allow consenting people to marry.

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Yes


Jul 5, 2015, 4:57 AM

I believe any consenting adults should be allowed to marry. Doesn't impact my life if the gays down the street marry. That's my point. Those who are against things of that kind due to religion are in the wrong because they want the state run by religion. They don't understand that government is not run by the church. Freedom of religion means the right not to follow a religion just as much as it is a right to follow a religion.

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Re: Yes


Jul 5, 2015, 12:05 PM

Ah my bad, I was misunderstood you. I haven't slept much in the past few days, so my brain wasn't exactly working at 100%, as demonstrated by my earlier post:

"But as an American, who believes in freedom of religion, shouldn't you believe in the concept of freedom of religion?"

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Re: You will not listen, but you use the term


Jul 4, 2015, 9:47 AM [ in reply to You will not listen, but you use the term ]

Amen

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:38 PM

you are 125% right; but you know there are a lot of us out there who feel just like you and know you are right-on but we are a minority and becoming more of a minority each day. we are losing. maybe have already lost!

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 4, 2015, 1:25 AM

Your post made me think of this meme I saw the other day. I usually avoid these political / / religious threads but this one has the making of a good mud slinging contest.

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You freedom hating, anti American far right wingers...


Jul 3, 2015, 1:39 PM

Blast me all you want, but I'm tired of you far right wingers following that atheist Ayn Rand (who worshiped material things) while claiming to be "Christian". I'm tired of you trying to bring back legalized discrimination. I'm tired of you far right wingers claiming to be "Christian", then hating immigrants when in the Bible it says to be "kind to strangers, because we were once strangers in the land of Eygpt." I'm tired of you far right wingers wanting to use the government to enforce your personal beliefs upon everybody else. I'm tired of you far right wing "Christians", being silent when black Christian churches are burned, shot up, and threatened with violence. I'm tired of you far right wingers romanticizing about a period of time in our country when slavery was legal. I'm tired of you far right wingers supporting trade policies that send American jobs overseas. I'm tired of you right wing "Christians", hating on your fellow hispanic Christians. I'm tired of you far right wingers being so obsessed and intrusive into people's personal lives and beliefs.

Sorry far right, your time is up. People are free to who they want to be. Equality is coming, you can kick and scream all you want, but it's over for you far right wingers. A majority of the country wants to move past racism, sexism, homophobia, and xenophobia. It is unbelievable how many personal freedoms the far right has been trying to take away from free American citizens over the past 10 to 15 years, all in the name of far right political correctness.

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I swear Christian Fundamentalist sound like Islamic


Jul 3, 2015, 1:50 PM

Fundamentalist. Same cheers but for different teams.

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agree


Jul 4, 2015, 8:07 AM

they use the same kind of narrow/shallow thinking in their arguments

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Wants Bernie Sanders to win


Jul 3, 2015, 1:57 PM [ in reply to You freedom hating, anti American far right wingers... ]

So we can finally have queen's wet dream - a socialist, totalitarian state

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Wants Ted Cruz to win...


Jul 3, 2015, 2:02 PM

So we can finally have CuCaitlynnJenner835's wet dream of a fascist totalitarian state, that takes away freedom and sends American jobs overseas.

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Dude calm down***


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Re: Wants Ted Cruz to win...


Jul 3, 2015, 3:26 PM [ in reply to Wants Ted Cruz to win... ]

You do know that Clinton's NAFTA agreement is why all the jobs went overseas right? BTW he is a democrat.

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Re: Wants Ted Cruz to win...


Jul 4, 2015, 9:58 PM

in all fairness, NAFTA came up under BUSH and was a conservative trade policy, Clinton signed it as a compromise to get republican votes to push his economic stimulus package through the house, which ultimately led to investments in the dotcom boom. He has since changed his stance and regrets signing that into law.

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What's new? The Clintons will tell you anything you want


Jul 5, 2015, 7:02 AM

to hear that will further their ambitions and foundation and lose track of any records of such.

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Re: What's new? The Clintons will tell you anything you want


Jul 5, 2015, 11:35 AM

mmmkay, that's a politician for u.

point is NAFTA was a creation of the HW Bush Admin.

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Re: Wants Ted Cruz to win...


Jul 3, 2015, 7:04 PM [ in reply to Wants Ted Cruz to win... ]

Thought that's what we have now?

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Atleast his post didnt mention


Jul 3, 2015, 7:09 PM

Gay Marriage after he talked about rights lol.

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Re: Atleast his post didnt mention


Jul 3, 2015, 8:03 PM

You ostriches keep your heads in the sand, everything will be fine.
We supposedly have an $18 trillion debt where only the interest is being paid but magically this 18 trillion # has'nt changed in the last 4 yrs even though the budget has never been balanced or come anywhere near the black.
There are more people on welfare and disability than at any other time in our nations history. I thought, stupid me, that welfare programs were supposed to help you get back on your feet rather than keep you on your knees.
The govt blatantly lies and the media covers for it , pick a side. If you believe that 5.3% unemployment rate bs i have a great deal on some ocean front property in Ohio for you. 37% of the workforce is employed by the feds.
You can be spied upon and depending on the interpreter detained without access to Habeas Corpus relief.
Shall I go on, nah never mind, no one is listening. Happy fouth of July everyone.

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Re: Atleast his post didnt mention


Jul 4, 2015, 3:47 PM

maybe we should take a trip down memory lane and find out at what point we started piling on massive debt and rotting away our middle class, placing profits over people, and selling the american dream to only those that could afford it.

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Crying about "Socialism"... Hypnotized foolishness....***


Jul 3, 2015, 2:07 PM [ in reply to Wants Bernie Sanders to win ]



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Bernie....***


Jul 3, 2015, 2:04 PM [ in reply to You freedom hating, anti American far right wingers... ]



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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:43 PM

At least you're honest with us.

I don't mind a bigot and racist when he's honest about his feelings. I can't stand bigots and racists who try to deny their beliefs.

Preach on brother.

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:47 PM

I blame Burt and Ernie, clearly they started this.



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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:49 PM

I blame Kermit and all his rainbows turning our children into homosexuals. Poor kids just couldn't help themselves from seeing what was on the other side.

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"Smelley, Garcia, and Beecher are going to lead you to 4-8." - york_tiger


Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:51 PM

I think we need to ban kermit then, it is the only way preserve our freedom.

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Lol. They were a liberal attempt at mind control.***


Jul 3, 2015, 1:51 PM [ in reply to Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American ]



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NO it was Peppermint Patty.***


Jul 3, 2015, 1:51 PM [ in reply to Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American ]



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Re: NO it was Peppermint Patty.***


Jul 3, 2015, 1:56 PM

RU Saying Patty likes to go bumper to bumper with Janey?

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:58 PM [ in reply to Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American ]

I blame Tinky Winky



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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 1:57 PM

I guess my first question would be: What the heck does the Confederate flag have to do with being a Christian? Dabo decided on his own not to accept the award. Nobody "made" him do anything. But, I guess if our form of government has become so distasteful to you maybe it's time for you to find another place to live. This is not a nation of Islam. We do not allow religious belief to form the laws. That is the way it has always been. That is the way it will always be.


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If you believe Dabo made that decision without some


Jul 3, 2015, 2:04 PM

influence from Drad and higher ups at Clemson then you probably believe in the tooth fairy too!

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Re: If you believe Dabo made that decision without some


Jul 3, 2015, 2:06 PM

They still couldn't "make" him do it. What are they going to do? Kill him? Fire him? Give me a break. Perhaps Dabo was advised, but nobody "told" him what to do.

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no, he was forced to make a choice to honor his foundation


Jul 3, 2015, 2:10 PM

for its great works in the prior year or to honor another foundation, his family, because of the politicized outrage; he said as much himself.

people succumb to that stupidity every day, dabo's not immune.




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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 2:03 PM

Wake up idiot! God as you believe doesn't exist. Nobody snapped their fingers and created the universe.

The same God you believe wouldn't say wearing mixed fabric is the same as laying with a man... Leviticis 18:18..

How does the flag or gay marriage affect your life? Are you leaving the US? Are you divorcing your wife? The US is the last industrialized nation to recognize gay marriage- is the rest of the world doomed as well? Open your eyes, the world has advanced beyond your archaic belief system.

Ignorant people are the worst. I know many gay people, and they only want the same rights straight people have. Not their fault they're gay.

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I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created, and with them the animals,
The birds and the creatures that move along the ground, for I regret that I have made them.


Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 2:07 PM

RU having that dream where Channing Tatum flies in nekkid through the window and hovers over your bed? I noticed them becoming more frequent with a democrat in the WH.

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who doesn't hope they find a cure soon?***


Jul 3, 2015, 2:12 PM [ in reply to Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American ]



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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 2:12 PM

You remind me of that simple little Banjo player in Deliverance.

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Re: You liberal tree hugging ....ladedaleda


Jul 3, 2015, 2:30 PM

Everyone should be like me. What a great world it would be!!! I never realized I was anti American until the rednecks told me I was.

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 8:26 PM [ in reply to Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American ]

Nahhh...I think 86 got some teeth

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Dabo stopped Dabo from taking the award.


Jul 3, 2015, 2:42 PM

As soon as the award was made political, Dabo bailed. He's surely aware that The Bible record no incident of either Christ, His Apostles or the first church getting involved in politics.




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I read stuff like this, and immediately start to worry that


Jul 3, 2015, 3:16 PM

the Rapture just occurred...

and God took certain people's brains but left the rest of them for us to have to deal with.

Jesus was "not political"? Really?

I'd say the Pharisees and the Romans both insisted and acted as if he was "political" enough. In the end, he paid for that "inferred political bent" with his life.

Give 'em hail wueagle...

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He paid for it because he lived in a time and place


Jul 3, 2015, 3:30 PM

where government was religion and religion was government, much like Saudi Arabia and Iraq and most of the Middle East today. If we let our guards down and fail to maintain a separation of church and state, we could end up just like the Roman Empire. Christians need to quit spending so much time worrying about what all the "heathens" are doing and start working more on their personal relationship with their God. And by the way, morality and spirituality are not exclusive to Christians.

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the biggest lie of liberals...


Jul 3, 2015, 8:37 PM

secularism is as moral as religion.

B..effin...S.

The Romans were secularists, not spirtuaiists, and they crucified a religious leader because He had shown the power to overcome their enforced authority of the people.

Quit reading Wired and start reading the Bible - then you might have more than misconception to talk about.

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Re: the biggest lie of liberals...


Jul 4, 2015, 12:25 PM

I think secularists are definitely as morally upstanding as religious people...maybe even moreso.

Aren't the most violent areas of the country located in the most religious places?

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No.***


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Could be wrong, but I don't think cities like Detroit and DC


Jul 4, 2015, 9:24 PM [ in reply to Re: the biggest lie of liberals... ]

are exactly known as "holy" cities.

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Re: Could be wrong, but I don't think cities like Detroit and DC


Jul 4, 2015, 10:31 PM

True...however they're not the only crime-ridden places. Here's how the most religious states fare in terms of crime rankings:

Most religious: http://www.gallup.com/poll/160415/mississippi-maintains-hold-religious-state.aspx
Most violent: https://www.census.gov/statab/ranks/rank21.html

Religious State Crime
1. Mississippi (31)
2. Utah (45)
3. Alabama (23)
4. Louisiana (5)
5. Arkansas (11)
6. South Carolina (1)
7. Tennessee (2)
8. North Carolina (18)
9. Georgia (19)
10. Oklahoma (17)

Compared to the least religious:

50. Vermont (48)
49. New Hampshire (47)
48. Maine (50)
47. Massachusetts (20)
46. Rhode Island (44)
45. Oregon (38)
44. Nevada (3)
43. Hawaii (36)
42. Alaska (6)
41. Connecticut (37)
40. Washington (28)

It's not a 100% correlation, but in general, the more religious states tend to be more violent than non-religious.

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Population of the lowest skews the information.


Jul 5, 2015, 1:58 PM

Comparable size and population might have been less deceptive.

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Re: Population of the lowest skews the information.


Jul 5, 2015, 2:13 PM

I think you are deceiving yourself on that one, it is pretty cut and dry.

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WHOA the hail up....


Jul 5, 2015, 2:27 PM

this fool has posted a link to the "most religious states" in the country, and that link has

NOTHING TO DO WITH "CRIME" AT ALL.

In fact, of the Top 30 cities for Murder rate, only 4 are in the South, and two of those - New Orleans and Atlanta - are far from being typical conservative Southern communities.

It's also interesting to note that NONE of the Top 30 cities for Murder rate are from the Great Plains states, an area of the nation that went generally solidly for Romney in 2012 as well.

Of the areas most represented in the TOP 30 Murder Rate cities the Iron Belt and the Northeast stand out - areas that went solidly Democrat in the last 5+ Presidential elections.

The Poster who is saying that "religion = violent states" hails from Brazil, and apparently knows nothing about the true facts about violence in the US.

In fact the poster is representative of exactly what "wueagle" was screaming about - too much liberal misinformation continues to haunt our country....

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Those cities are also much more populated


Jul 5, 2015, 4:27 PM

Pretty sure there are going to be a lot more murders in Chicago than Lincoln, Nebraska or in New York than Birmingham, Alabama. That's not religion based. That's just mass population differences. Sure, a Christian is prob less likely to commit murder, but what does that have to do with anything? Most non Christians are also not commiting murder. This has to do with Christians trying to run the government based on religion and it isn't ever gonna happen. Sorry. Church and State shall remain seperated and honestly, the extremism by Christians to punish those who do not follow the rules of their faith are driving more and more people away from Christianity.

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Re: Those cities are also much more populated


Jul 5, 2015, 4:41 PM

we are talking per capita, and The fine state of SC Carolina, per Capita, is the most violent in the country. Spartanburg County, per capita, is more violent than Cook County Ill, were chicago is. I would love to believe otherwise, but you can not argue against facts.

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Re: Those cities are also much more populated


Jul 5, 2015, 5:13 PM

Depends on the year of your fax.In 2006 SC was numer juan. In 2013 it was Alaska follered bi New Mexicans an Nevader. SC was 6th.

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No, The Roman Empire was run by Romans.


Jul 4, 2015, 12:23 AM [ in reply to He paid for it because he lived in a time and place ]

They appeased most religions by allowing a type of freedom of religion but none of the Roman leaders were anything close to worshiper of the Jewish God. They allowed for honor to all gods, worshiping
none.
They turned on the Jews and Christian, whom they also considered Jews, a couple hundred years after the Crucifixion of Christ.


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Read more.


Jul 4, 2015, 12:14 AM [ in reply to I read stuff like this, and immediately start to worry that ]

The Pharisees hated Him because He was against their turning the Synagogue into a personal business. They sold animals in front to be offered for sacrifice. Some Bible scholars believe that they took the animals back to the front and sold them again. They rejected the Christ as The Son of God and that isn't politics by any stretch.

John 2
14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:

John Chapter 2 : 1
15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

The Romans position was that no fault was found in Christ.

John 19
4. Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him.

The Pharisees tried to entangle Him in politics.

Matthew 22
15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.
16 And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men.
17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?
19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Oh yeah, there was that one time when the Pharisees used their political clout to have the Romans crucify a faultless man. Do you have anything to contribute that contradicts this?

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 5:04 PM

I know it's humorous to some to trivialize the OP's argument, but on college campuses the trendy concept of "microaggressions" is being pushed hard to indoctrinate young people. Look it up if you're not familiar with it. We all need to stand up against such chit!

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 5:42 PM

Woooooo buddy! You may as well just commit suicide right now. You're going to be one sad guy with the way society goes. I found a pic of you on the internet that I thought you may want to save if you didn't have it in your photo book....



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Wow. Thank you Internet.***


Jul 3, 2015, 5:45 PM



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looks like someone started drinking early on this Holiday.***


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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 3, 2015, 8:57 PM

I feel like I should have an opinion cause obviously everbody else does but I don't have the time to read 10 pages of this.

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Poe's Law Is Well Illustrated Here


Jul 4, 2015, 1:04 AM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

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Tell 'em coot!***


Jul 4, 2015, 1:23 AM



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Duck Commander's Phil Robertson said it best:


Jul 4, 2015, 2:52 AM

"AMERICA NEEDS A DOSE OF TESTOSTERONE!"

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*uck Commander... You sirius or just frickin' lost...?


Jul 5, 2015, 5:23 PM

We see what all that "testosterone" with Dubya got us... Get the *uck out here with that carp...

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Haha... you are hilarious. Please, hide behind your


Jul 4, 2015, 9:17 AM

"moral Christian beliefs," to then go on and rant about nothing that is supported by moral Christian beliefs. The confederate flag? US flag and Tiger Paw logo? What people are selling and what they aren't? All things they didn't teach in my church growing up. But, then again, I guess that love Jesus talked about was meant just for you.

Just curious, what battle are you fighting? As far as I am concerned, you can live your life as angry and close minded as you would like. Sounds like you are pretty happy that way from the tone of your post.

Also, I am one of those tree huggers. I wish I could figure out a way to be pro-America and love nature.. dagummit.

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Good luck... the corporatistas are having nothing of it...


Jul 5, 2015, 5:32 PM

Until we're all subjugated (except the managerial/financial 'elite'), their mission isn't complete. Ask Greece...ask Spain...ask Italy...ask Portugal... ask Iceland... You get the point. The financial 'gurus' work for the financial Lords. It's starting (sooner than I expected) and I'm glad I'm going to be around to have some "INPUT"... Don't ever forget SOLOS.....

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Re: Haha... you are hilarious. Please, hide behind your


Jul 6, 2015, 9:56 AM [ in reply to Haha... you are hilarious. Please, hide behind your ]

I'm a recovering tree hugger and agree with wueagle86 on this .

I sure as heck didn't vote for this crap that our country is in.

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 4, 2015, 10:52 AM

I sat and read every single comment. Thanks everyone. Wueagle86 if only you really knew Jesus. smh. There were some great posts replying to you. You should really consider some of them. At least bits and pieces. Yes the ones that disagree with you. You have some classic lines that can be picked apart and have been. You use the Word but your actions and feelings contradict Jesus' actions and words. Great job everyone. You do not know Him sad to say.

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Sad................


Jul 4, 2015, 3:08 PM

that this post was 'post of the day'. Some tnetters scare the #@! out of me.

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Re: Sad................


Jul 4, 2015, 3:41 PM

wuz thinking the same, sad that this got so many up votes.

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It's almost impossible to tell who isn't a believer.


Jul 4, 2015, 7:29 PM [ in reply to Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American ]

Spiritual Children and backsliders are often mistaken for nonbelievers. Neither will be edified by such an accusation. Though we 'know a tree by the fruit it bears,' it's not as obvious when a tree bears no fruit. Of course you we know each other by our love for one another. I think all this is above my paygrade and you should be hearing this from your pulpit.

I urge caution.

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 4, 2015, 3:59 PM

Ah yes, silly liberals using things like "facts" and "science" to support their causes...

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Wow, things like that create hate


Jul 4, 2015, 7:10 PM

I love trees, hug them even. I believe in my own higher power.

I love this country, I also love the heritage of the Confederate Flag.

I love gay folks , black folks , green folks.

I love beeing BORN IN THE USA

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Re: Wow, things like that create hate


Jul 4, 2015, 8:34 PM

The OP reminds of the time I was constipated, then the magic happened. So much, so foul, erupted like a monolith of stank. It was painful but gratifying. So relieving.

I'm glad you got that crap out. And I am proud of you for sharing it.

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Did i miss something..busy celebrating the 4th telling Brits


Jul 4, 2015, 11:07 PM

to go jump and take their tea tax back to England! LOL.

GoTiGERS!

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Seperation of Church and State.


Jul 4, 2015, 11:21 PM

It doesn't matter what you believe is right or wrong due to Christianity or any religion. You have the freedom to worship that religion and others have the freedom not to. Laws shall be made for the good and civil well being of the state and it's citizens, not because of beliefs of the church. Period. End of story. You can believe whatever faith you wish, but you may not punish others or dictate what they do because it differs from your religion. Period.

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Re: You liberal tree hugging lg supporters and anti American


Jul 5, 2015, 5:56 AM

Said the guy who didn't use his real name...

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My neighbor's HAMMER AND SICKLE flag


Jul 5, 2015, 10:07 AM

While I think my neighbor is stupid with his HAMMER AND SICKLE flag being flown, I support his right to display that flag ... on his own property. Fortunately it's down the block a bit.

Me? I hug trees, fly our Star Spangled Banner, regularly swell with USMC pride, love black folks, love clinging to my guns and Christianity, honor my family (including ancestors) and am 100% certain that our great nation will get far more benefit by looking forward than we will get by looking backward.

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right you are sir.....


Jul 5, 2015, 2:19 PM

but I think the point of the OP is about being angry at a good many people in this country who are looking to make political points for themselves

rather than do anything that might "benefit our great nation".

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Re: right you are sir.....


Jul 5, 2015, 2:26 PM

I would be willing to agree if the OPs rants were not so misplaced.

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Can anyone think of a common thread for why Americans are...


Jul 5, 2015, 5:53 PM

...at each others throats more than ever?

Sirius qweshun...

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Jul 5, 2015, 8:02 PM

Jus spitballin here but maybee overhiped bullsheet n missourah an florida had sometin ta doo wit it. Da comander in cheef & his attornee genral.

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Remember our gun confiscation posts. Most thought


Jul 6, 2015, 9:49 AM

that would never happen and nobody will take my guns! While we were wondering about gay marriage and flag laws, the almighty king is working on another law of the law in the name of gun control. He will get as much of this as he can unless he is stopped.

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I wish we could collapse individual threads.


Jul 6, 2015, 10:06 AM

that's all.

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