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And without getting into where sin comes from, I'd just point out that the existence of homosexuality isn't a special case of sinfulness. If you think that "God made a mistake when he made gay people gay," then you should also think that God made a mistake when he made all of us sinful.

This gets at what seems to be your assumption that whatever natural desires we have constitute an identity that can't be questioned, or that can't be subordinated to a more comprehensive identity. Somebody who's attracted to somebody of the same sex doesn't have to act on their attraction, which would mean that their homosexual desire doesn't constitute a "gay" sexual identity as we've currently constructed it. Similarly, somebody who's attracted to the opposite sex doesn't have to act on that attraction, meaning that the "straight" identity we've constructed is also shaped by other identities. The point is, sexual desire doesn't have to be supreme, and that the identities we construct around that desire (gay, straight, or otherwise) aren't entirely objective facts of nature. So God didn't "make gay people gay" any more than he created any other social/ political identity. He might have created us with certain desires and proclivities, but it's up to us to worship God with what we're given.

Or, you could just ignore all of this, and point out that we all have desires that we don't indulge, so it simply doesn't matter whether homosexual desire is innate. When people say that "being gay is a choice," then, what they might mean is that nothing's forcing a person who's attracted to somebody of the same sex to act on that attraction.

--camcgee® Posted: Jul 1, 2015 12:33 PM

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He's repeating Catholic catechisms

Jul 1, 2015, 4:23 PM

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

Additionally, we can assume he also believes these to be true
Offenses against chastity

2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

2352 By ############ is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that ############ is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."139

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

2353 Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover, it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young.

2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

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He's repeating Catholic catechisms

2000 years of the dumbest stuff you've ever read

Didn't read, but can I summarize?

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