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GW stole the election, remember?***
Jan 7, 2022, 5:06 PM
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All-In [47795]
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yeah, and JA wasnt too happy about it having
Jan 7, 2022, 5:14 PM
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come in second.
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Probably because...
Jan 7, 2022, 5:14 PM
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The candidate who lost and the party didn't try to dispute it with half-assed court cases and a fervent, angry mob on EC counting day.
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where is 3rdGen when you need him. if poor old Cicero
Jan 7, 2022, 5:17 PM
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were around he might be able to help but this all happened about 2100 years ago in a modest sized city on the Tiber
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Oh my, they had court cases in the GW election. Not saying
Jan 7, 2022, 5:19 PM
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they weren't justified, or that these recent ones were or were not justified, but glory, they had them both times. And the msm called the GW stolen for years. Whether the Pubs are right or wrong in this, they didn't invent it, not by a long shot.
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Re: Oh my, they had court cases in the GW election. Not saying
Jan 7, 2022, 5:28 PM
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Elections have been disputed for years. They always concede graciously though in the end and they don't lead riots. Trump's situation isn't really even similar.
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Re: Oh my, they had court cases in the GW election. Not saying
Jan 7, 2022, 5:42 PM
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Not comparing the response of the losing candidate-Trump, but just didn’t realize more voters felt Trump was not legit in the 2016 election compared to voters not feeling Biden was legitimately elected in 2020.
All I hear is about misinformed GOP voters regarding Biden’s election when there were more Dem voters who felt Trump was not legitimately elected in 2016.
I don’t remember those Democratic voters being mocked by the media.
Trump won in 2016. Biden in 2020. Bush in 2000.
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Re: Disputed Election Results Didn't Start with Trumpers
Jan 7, 2022, 5:58 PM
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The wording may be the same but the belief is not.
The Dems (and a lot of Never-Trump GOP'ers like myself) had a very specific belief that the election was not "legitimate" because America had indeed been targeted specifically by the Russians, who did indeed blatantly interfere in the 2016 on Trump's behalf. This was clearly established by Mueller's investigation, who indicted 25+ members of the Russian hacker group "Fancy Bear" from the GRU, and various civilian members of the so-called "Internet Research Agency" that operated out of St. Peterberg...this was their so-called "troll farm" that planted a vast amount of disinformation on social media leading up to the election. (Facebook's internal audit found more than 3500+ Russian troll accounts believed to be connected to this agency, who sent out millions of posts during the 18+ months they were active.)
Remember, those same hackers hacked the DNC, and then gave the contents to Roger Stone, who then gave them to Julian Assange of WikiLeaks, who was then hiding out at the Ecuadorian embassy. Stone got 40+ months for this but wouldn't point the finger at Trump...who then commuted his sentence as a near-final order of business.
Also: an internal document leaked by the Treasury department, of all things, did indeed show the conclusive link to Russia that Mueller's team did not find: Constantine Kilimnik, who worked for Paul Manafort...who was discovered to be a direct asset of Russian intelligence and a conduit back to the oligarchs. Like Stone, Manafort wouldn't roll on Trump...and exactly like Stone, he got pardoned by Trump.
Those are very specific accusations, and they've been consistently borne out by established facts. I personally do not think Trump would have won if the Russians hadn't nudged him over the finish line, though Hillary was very much the author of much of her own misfortune, too. She ran one of the worst campaigns, like...ever, and always had the air of somebody who deserved to be rubber-stamped on into the Oval Office, and she made the biggest mistake anyone can make about their opponent: she underestimated him. She thought he was an idiot without a clue or a chance and it showed the whole way through.
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Re: Disputed Election Results Didn't Start with Trumpers
Jan 7, 2022, 10:31 PM
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This may literally be the most coherent and thought out post on tiger net ever. Well said.
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Re: Disputed Election Results Didn't Start with Trumpers
Jan 7, 2022, 11:08 PM
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Good grief, UK. You've gone off the deep end. You actually believe that crappola? Probably, because you will jump anything that trashes Trump, even something this far-fetched. A new LOW for you. Your credibility just sank below Brandon's! Be proud.
You just can't be that naïve. But, considering your, well, aversion to logic, facts and common sense, you likely could be that detached from reality!! You really need to up your game before you're cited for being a dumb___!!
BTW, I have some swampland in the Sahara that would be a nice spot for a ski resort. Cheap to you!!
LMAO like never before!!
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