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With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 9:05 AM
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and the correction yesterday and today, what is your suggestions for investmets in stocks? (this should be good)
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If you have any money, buy!***
Jan 8, 2016, 9:05 AM
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Oculus Spirit [80231]
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The market is always going to go up and down. The problem
Jan 8, 2016, 9:08 AM
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is when you always try to hit a home run. I prefer lots of singles and doubles.
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 9:08 AM
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Wish I could find your other thread so I can laugh at the poster who said the interest rate hike was going to fix everything.
WMT, AAPL and AXP are looking like good buys. But we could see more losses on the horizon. Doubt we've hit the low.
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 9:11 AM
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 9:21 AM
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I think the best time to buy will actually be after the interest rate hike. We are in a bull market right now, but the moment IR goes up, the market will re correct itself a lot lower than what it is now. (almost like a stock market bubble). That is the time to buy. This is just a minor correction mainly due to China's slowing economy.
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 9:33 AM
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Guessing you mean bear?
I don't see any Bulls to ride.
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Rock Defender [53]
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You wouldn't want to ride a bull anyway.
Jan 8, 2016, 9:35 AM
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 9:35 AM
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Starting in around 2012 I would say it has been a bull run since almost all stocks (and the overall market) has come raging back. Although I can see your point of being in a bear market (or at the very least on the cusp of one).
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 9:39 AM
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Hard to argue 2015 was bullish at all. But yes we had a good bull run out of the recession.
So it's not always a bad thing to see a dip.
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 9:42 AM
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I agree.
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Re: I thought Obama fixed all this already....
Jan 8, 2016, 1:22 PM
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Why are you so angry?
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Jan 13, 2016, 10:59 AM
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Are Coots better picking stocks than football teams?
Jan 8, 2016, 1:13 PM
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Otherwise, move along, nothing to see here...
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Smith and Wesson***
Jan 8, 2016, 9:08 AM
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Jan 8, 2016, 9:12 AM
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Re: Obama has been good for them, huh?***
Jan 8, 2016, 9:51 AM
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Best thing to happen to gun manufacturing / sales for the last 7 years. If you are a conspiracy theorist, you might think Obama has a financial "arrangement" with the gun industry.
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 9:09 AM
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Growth Stock Mutual Funds through a company like Fidelity or Vanguard. Plenty of funds averaging well over 10% for the past 10 years. Now is a good time to invest. I would be wary of buying single company stocks or bonds, etc. Index Funds aren't bad but wont provide the return that a Growth Stock Mutual Fund will. Keep in mind that the point is to invest it long term. Don't be bothered with market swings as time goes on. Good luck.
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QQQ or SPY and hold long term.***
Jan 8, 2016, 9:14 AM
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I like DABO
Jan 8, 2016, 9:39 AM
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It's a growth based stock with a strong upside. It's recent track record has proven that it can withstand severe market swings and is not influenced by foreign economies. The fund manager has been around since about 2009, and his fundamental approach seems to be working for both the short term and long term investor.
Note: Past performance DOES guarantee of future performance!
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This seems like a poor time to invest in Dabo stock though
Jan 8, 2016, 9:42 AM
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Typically one wants to go with the buy low sell high method so if you didn't buy Dabo in 2009 or 2010 I would hold off for now. Not saying it's going to go down anytime soon, you just wont see any more large capital gains from Dabo. Now if you're looking at a good dividend investment, Dabo could be the stock for you if you can afford to buy in with a large share.
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I said it before in of these "investment" threads
Jan 8, 2016, 9:43 AM
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If you put your money in stocks right now, you're crazy. If you want to invest in anything it's certain commodities and precious metals.
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Actually a drop like we've seen this week is the perfect
Jan 8, 2016, 9:45 AM
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time to buy. You just have to try and catch it at the bottom and that is the unpredictable part.
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Re: Actually a drop like we've seen this week is the perfect
Jan 8, 2016, 9:48 AM
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No the perfect time to buy would be when either the market crashes ( all indicators are pointing in that direction ) or they announce another round of QE. There's extreme volatility in the market right now. Unless you're a day trader, there's no point in a long term investor being in the market right now.
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Re: Actually a drop like we've seen this week is the perfect
Jan 8, 2016, 9:52 AM
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It's always a good time to invest long term because stock market will always go up.
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Re: Actually a drop like we've seen this week is the perfect
Jan 8, 2016, 9:54 AM
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Tell that to the people that lost their life's savings in 2008.
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They lost because they sold.
Jan 8, 2016, 9:57 AM
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Had they held all their investments from the crash to now they would have regained their previous net worth plus.
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Some of the companies don't even exist anymore
Jan 8, 2016, 10:03 AM
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For example Lehman Brothers. How would you keep a position in those companies if they have liquidated? The answer is, you don't. Like they say in Vegas, you crapped out.
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Re: Some of the companies don't even exist anymore
Jan 8, 2016, 10:08 AM
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That's how investing works. You lose on some but your goal is to gain in others.
However most people have their "life savings" investment in retirement accounts which are mostly mutual funds.
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If you have your life savings in a single Lehman brothers or
Jan 8, 2016, 10:21 AM
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BOA as robertn mentioned you're in trouble. Any long term investing should be highly diversified and mutual funds and etfs make that easy. I would never buy a single company's stock to hold long term. As you illustrated, even companies that seem super safe can crash and burn at a moments notice.
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How much cash do you keep around for such investments
Jan 8, 2016, 10:09 AM
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I have all of my money invested. Actually my 401k is almost as large as my other investments and even with them I never have more than about 5% in cash and that is in case I need the cash not to time the market.
This is why I don't have nice things...
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You are the smart risk averse investor.
Jan 8, 2016, 10:18 AM
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I am the young foolish risky investor. I keep my 401k at the maximum to get the match and keep enough of an emergency cash fund to feel comfortable. The rest above normal operating expenses I trade with. I'm sure my "investing cash" fund is pretty small compared to most because I'm recently in the game, but it is growing quickly both from adding to it monthly from my salary as well as the investments themselves. Some stuff I've bought to hold and some stuff is traded with a pretty quick turn around.
So I don't really have a number I keep available to buy with if I see something I think is a good buy. It really depends on what I have bought or sold that week as to what I have available. I'm no pro though so I don't know if anyone should be taking advice from me. This is just what I'm doing.
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Re: How much cash do you keep around for such investments
Jan 8, 2016, 10:20 AM
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I bought a bunch of apple the other day when it was at $104. I feel like an idiot if only I had waited a few days.
By the time my new deposits are completed the stocks will probably rise back up lol.
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Re: How much cash do you keep around for such investments
Jan 8, 2016, 10:28 AM
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Don't worry too much...They've got about $200 BILLION in cash.
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What I do know is that
Jan 8, 2016, 9:55 AM
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predicting this game Monday bears a lot of resemblance to two things:
Economists predicting the stock market.
Weathermen assessing El Nino, Weather blobs, their effects, etc.
Everyone tries to play out in their mind what they think will happen based on the evidence, but no one knows anything until it actually happens.
Then, afterwards, there will be about 50% of people who hit it, and about 50% who missed it.
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If ya'll are interested in being smart with your money
Jan 8, 2016, 10:19 AM
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I'd suggest staying away from the CNBC's of the world. If you're looking for smart successful investors that will give you the truth about what is going on in the markets I'd suggest looking up guys like Peter Schiff, Jim Rogers, Marc Faber, Jim Rickards, Gerald Celente and Max Keiser just to name a few.
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Re: If ya'll are interested in being smart with your money
Jan 8, 2016, 10:23 AM
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We get it you're one of those crazy gold guys who doesn't realize it's no more valuable than paper currency.
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Re: If ya'll are interested in being smart with your money
Jan 8, 2016, 10:27 AM
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If you find a guy that tells you gold isn't a smart investment, I can find you a guy that'll lose your money.
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Gold prices since 1973
Jan 8, 2016, 10:31 AM
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Re: Gold prices since 1973
Jan 8, 2016, 10:43 AM
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lol can you give us more details on what your argument is from that chart without any context?
Gold is worth less today than it was in 1980. Not sure how that is a 'good' investment.
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Jan 8, 2016, 10:44 AM
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You're not good at reading charts are you?
Jan 8, 2016, 10:48 AM
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Gold price:
1980: Around $500 dollars give or take
2015: Sitting at $1109 right now
The point is, you'll never see gold go to zero. Even if it sometimes loses in the short term, it ALWAYS gains in the long term. For somebody that is looking for a good store of value, you can't get much better than gold.
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Re: You're not good at reading charts are you?
Jan 8, 2016, 10:51 AM
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You're not good at understand complex situations are you?
$500 in 1980 when would be more than $1,440 dollars today.
So if you bought gold in 1980 and held it until today you would have lost $331 dollars. That's a terrible investment.
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Re: You're not good at reading charts are you?
Jan 8, 2016, 11:05 AM
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But silver yo, William Devane told me on foxnews
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Increase your percentage of cash
Jan 8, 2016, 10:38 AM
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The US dollar will continue to remain strong. I would recommend you to reduce your stock portfolio (if you haven't already) and increase your cash.
From a stock perspective, I would short stocks to which will be hurt due to the global downturn. The Chinese dollar will continue to decline as they are now forced to print. Anyone who will be hurt by this should be a good place to short.
Overall though, the market is set for a decline due to a multitude of reasons.
Buying commodities will eventually work out, but this will take a few years before these regain. They are near the bottom, so if you are young enough and don't mind hanging on for a decade, this will be a great play.
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I'd wait... think more pain to come. May get short term
Jan 8, 2016, 10:47 AM
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bounce, but you will have to trade it quickly instead of buy and hold.
I think we are in a bear market.
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 12:13 PM
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I think personally from what I know (which isn't much so take it with a grain of salt) is that long term investing is the safest strategy especially with the goal of retirement (which is my goal). Even though the market crashes and bulls back, the overall trend is a 7% increase over the past 20 years. If I retire in 40 that will be a minimum of 14% increase in my investment (which I will admit isn't much). However, my plan (and I am meeting with a financial adviser next week) will be the Vanguard funds at 10% yearly over the past 20 years. These will include domestic and international stocks as well as a small portion in some form of mutual or money market fund. I am looking at around 80% stocks to bonds/funds right now since I am young (26, 27 this calendar year). So far unless I am going to retire in the middle of a recession or depression (which I can't guarantee or disprove) then I should be fine the long run even though this is a volatile time period in the market especially if I roll over my investments into safer avenues as I get closer to retirement.
Or I can heavily invest in weed.
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Re: With the Recent dip in stocks
Jan 8, 2016, 2:12 PM
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The Market topped last July. We are now in the beginnings of a bear market which we will see play out over the next 12-18 months. The central banks around the world have created the biggest assets bubble the world has ever seen with their decade long zero percent interest rate policies and money printing know as QE. But, now that bubble is busting and equities (stocks) around the world will drop 50% to 90% before it's all done. If you have any long positions in equities I would close them and get out before the real damage is done. Now is not the time to buy.
If you are interested in making in this bear market you will need to short equities.
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Jan 8, 2016, 2:16 PM
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