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Update on coworker from yesterday...
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Update on coworker from yesterday...


Apr 22, 2021, 9:09 AM

I just got this email:

If we our submitting today, with hard copy of the plans do I need to make trip Morrisville? I’m free to do so just wasn’t sure if I need to go to the office to print out our calcs and such.






Grammar Nazis have fun.

Calling him now.

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hmmmm, straight to voicemail***


Apr 22, 2021, 9:10 AM



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What's his age?


Apr 22, 2021, 9:11 AM

If sub-30, it's a miracle the VM box has even been set up.

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Lol Greenr didn't call him.


Apr 22, 2021, 9:13 AM

Greenr is a scared youngin too. He just posted that so we didn't gangbeat him again for his lack of communication skills.

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lulz. Phone call went like this (once I got through)


Apr 22, 2021, 9:22 AM

Me: Hey, I need you to look at the last submittal we had and do the EXACT SAME THING, but update it for the new project.

Him: OK, I can do that

Me: We need to print out the plans, but an abbreviated set, the EC reviewer doesn't care about Structural Plans, etc. Check the last submittal and mimic what we did there, ask me if you have questions.

Him: OK, but I don't know where the plans are.

Me: (Me, fuming because this is what I asked him to do 2 days ago) Shoot [name redacted] a message, she holds the latest plans that went to contractors Friday.

Him: Oh yeah, good idea

Me: Are the calculations online so I can review them before submitting?

Him: Yes, in the folder online. I should be able to get this done today.

Me: Sounds like we are not submitting today.

A bunch more bullchit back and forth, we might be on the same page now, he has a couple tasks to complete which he should have already, so we will see where this goes.

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I am fairly certain you are dealing with a drug addict.***


Apr 22, 2021, 9:26 AM



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He is ex-military too, so I thought we were at least hiring


Apr 22, 2021, 9:28 AM

someone who could be trusted to work hard. Shows what I know.

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He's weaving you into his tangled web so he can act pissed


Apr 22, 2021, 9:31 AM

off at you when everything falls apart.

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Ex-military? Ask him if he has any spare C-4 laying around.


Apr 22, 2021, 9:54 AM [ in reply to He is ex-military too, so I thought we were at least hiring ]

Just trying to get my Independence Day celebration plans in order early this year.

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Under 30. I texted him prior to the call to see if he was


Apr 22, 2021, 9:24 AM [ in reply to What's his age? ]

available. Then it went straight to voicemail.

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Did he say he was available?


Apr 22, 2021, 9:26 AM

TBH if you call me, I'm instantly pissed off. Text me what you want

I'm not under 30 though

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I like your funny words magic man


Yep. He said "yep"***


Apr 22, 2021, 9:27 AM



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Wait. This guy works for you, is a pain in the ####, and


Apr 22, 2021, 9:45 AM

isn't doing what you need him to do all while under a deadline.

AND YOU TEXT THE GUY TO ASK HIM IF IT'S OK TO CALL FTS GREENR PULL YA NUTS OUT AND MANAGE THIS GUY YOU 2 BETAS AIN'T GETTIN NOTHING DONE SON YOU NEED TO GO ALPHA ON HIM AND TELL HIM WHAT TF TO DO HERE I FEEL LIKE A CUCK IS LEADING A CUCK.

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lol, it was a quick skype message before I skype called him


Apr 22, 2021, 9:52 AM

that said "got a minute for a call?" We all do that, since people are working from home, stuff can be weird right now.

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Sounds puzz. During normal business hours ? Call him &


Apr 22, 2021, 9:59 AM

tell him to get off her (or him) and get his crap done that was supposed to be done 2 days ago.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Where did he get college degree, from?***


Apr 22, 2021, 9:11 AM



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*From whence did he get his college degree?****


Apr 22, 2021, 9:12 AM



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*From whence didst thou procurest thine


Apr 22, 2021, 9:18 AM

university-sanctioned degree of education?

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I hate to do this to you, but


Apr 22, 2021, 9:19 AM [ in reply to *From whence did he get his college degree?**** ]

You misused the word "whence".

Whence means "from where" or "from what place"; so when you say "from whence", you are essentially saying "from from where". "Whence" implies a "from" already; so preceding it with "from", although commonly done, is redundant.

You aren't the first person to do make this faux pas. Dickens, Shakespeare, Twain, and even the King James Bible are guilty of this.

Maybe "misused" is a bit overkill. It is such a common mistake that it shouldn't be considered a misuse. I just wanted to show a fellow linguistic intellect that he ain't the only cunning linguist in town.

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S??? ????? ???? ??? ??????? ?????? ???? ??? ??????,
S??? ????? ?? ?? ???????? ???? ? ??????? ??? ????? ?????..


*isn't***


Apr 22, 2021, 9:20 AM



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Re: I hate to do this to you, but


Apr 22, 2021, 9:20 AM [ in reply to I hate to do this to you, but ]

The fact is that both the phrase and the bare adverb have been used for centuries, and there is nothing wrong with either. Whatever the condemnations that sometimes are made, from whence is well established, and you should feel free to use it, or not.

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Henceforth, "From Whence" shall be acceptable in the Jounge


Apr 22, 2021, 9:24 AM

or 'From henceforth'

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S??? ????? ???? ??? ??????? ?????? ???? ??? ??????,
S??? ????? ?? ?? ???????? ???? ? ??????? ??? ????? ?????..


Ain't that something!


Apr 22, 2021, 9:27 AM [ in reply to Re: I hate to do this to you, but ]

:)

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John 3:16; 14:1-6


Hey, unrelated, but


Apr 22, 2021, 9:20 AM [ in reply to I hate to do this to you, but ]

can I get your PIN number that you use at the ATM machine?

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Man you gave me panic for a second!


Apr 22, 2021, 9:25 AM

I didn't get your joke at first and I was thinking that I inadvertently posted my debit card on some form of social media. I was racking my brain, because I don't post very many pictures anymore.

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S??? ????? ???? ??? ??????? ?????? ???? ??? ??????,
S??? ????? ?? ?? ???????? ???? ? ??????? ??? ????? ?????..


Don't get me started on CVT transmissions.


Apr 22, 2021, 9:34 AM [ in reply to Hey, unrelated, but ]

I've filed multiple complaints with the Department of Redundancy Department.

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Forest for the trees...


Apr 22, 2021, 9:25 AM [ in reply to I hate to do this to you, but ]

"You aren't the first person to do make this faux pas."

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John 3:16; 14:1-6


winky face***


Apr 22, 2021, 9:26 AM



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S??? ????? ???? ??? ??????? ?????? ???? ??? ??????,
S??? ????? ?? ?? ???????? ???? ? ??????? ??? ????? ?????..


SUNY Morrisville***


Apr 22, 2021, 9:20 AM [ in reply to Where did he get college degree, from?*** ]



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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


If I had to guess, Charlotte***


Apr 22, 2021, 9:22 AM [ in reply to Where did he get college degree, from?*** ]



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Please forgive me, @IneligibleUser


ding ding ding


Apr 22, 2021, 9:23 AM

winner winner, chicken dinner

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I am assuming that your coworker is Asian based on


Apr 22, 2021, 9:37 AM

his English, and I very rarely cross paths with very many Asian civil engineers that aren't structures. The few times I have, they have ALL graduated from Charlotte.

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Please forgive me, @IneligibleUser


He is not Asian, he is African, but grew up in the US so


Apr 22, 2021, 9:40 AM

this is not an English as second language thing. He is not structures, he works in Water Resources with my group.

Unfortunately, I just think he is kinda dumb.

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So, I can only assume that you're going to be assigning him


Apr 22, 2021, 10:43 AM

to route traffic patterns around shopping areas.

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I've got an Indian contractor that I have this problem with.


Apr 22, 2021, 9:37 AM

I need you to do this.

OK, I will do the opposite.

No, not that. This is what I need you to do.

Yes, I will do that.

No, not that. This.

Yes, I understand. I have done that.

No, please undo that and do this.

That is done.

Rinse, repeat.

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You're asking him to do too much at once.


Apr 22, 2021, 9:47 AM

He's zoning out after the first task.

Send him a numbered email with the individual tasks you want done, with a due time and date after each thing. That will eliminate any confusion.

And when he doesn't have one done, at like 2:15 for a task due at 2:00, ask him where "task number 2 from the numbered list" is. Then ask about number 3 etc. If this is a continual issue with him, then it also sets him up for getting rid of him with the HR folks.

Think of what you have to do with your kids, then just throw engineering stuff into the mix. Wait, scratch that, because your kids would probably have figured out the end goal by now and just done it all. Anyway, try what I said.

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Also, you could just get him fired.***


Apr 22, 2021, 9:49 AM



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Having worked in big corp environments, its normally not


Apr 22, 2021, 9:54 AM

that easy. I can't just fire someone. First it starts with this kinda stuff, then there's a PIP (performance improvement plan) where I have to make it so uncomfortable for him by doing the same thing I outlined in that email for EVERYTHING he is doing, that normally they just whine to their coworkers how much of a d!ck I am, and eventually quit. That's the goal--to make them quit on their own, so that the company doesn't have any potential liability or getting rid of him. And also document the date and time of every conversation I have with him, which is more mind numbing, but also required.

The messed up part is this does nothing to fixing their real problems, so the next employer gets the same crappy employee, who won't stop talking about how much of a dealdo his last boss was.

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Also, this is called micro-managing, and its a PIA for all


Apr 22, 2021, 9:50 AM [ in reply to You're asking him to do too much at once. ]

involved. The people that work for me know that if I have to start doing this with them, I'll complain to them about having to do that, and also that they need to get their shyatt together, because what I'm doing is starting the path for the road to releasing them to the general population.

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Re: Update on coworker from yesterday...


Apr 22, 2021, 9:50 AM



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holy sonofabitchh, this is EXACTLY how I feel right now


Apr 22, 2021, 9:53 AM

Great pull!

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