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Who in the ACC is most likely going to get left behind?
Jul 7, 2022, 8:58 AM
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I'd say the following trans are most likely going to be left behind when all this shakes out....
1. Wake Forest
2. Syracuse
3. Duke
4. Pittsburgh
5. Boston College
I think the following teams are going to be fine:
1. UNC
2. Clemson
3. Miami
4. FSU
The teams that are sitting on the bubble and could go either way are (more to less favorable situation):
1. Virginia (DC TV market)
2. GT (ATL TV market)
3. NC State
4. Virginia Tech
5. Louisville
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Re: Who in the ACC is most likely going to get left behind?
Jul 7, 2022, 9:08 AM
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The new Big 12 would take VT and Louisville in a heartbeat and the Big 10 would probably consider UVA and GT IMO.
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"trans" HAH! I see what you did there....***
Jul 7, 2022, 9:09 AM
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Re: "trans" HAH! I see what you did there....***
Jul 7, 2022, 12:55 PM
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Oops
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Re: "trans" HAH! I see what you did there....***
Jul 7, 2022, 1:33 PM
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The Trans Conference
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What we're seeing ultimately is the battle between
Jul 7, 2022, 9:26 AM
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selling out for top dollar, or settling for a little less and remaining loyal to principle. We know which way most lean.
I honestly think a compromise between the two is the middle ground that must be found. Schools like Wake are in trouble I think. I also think limiting this "negotiation" to just the PAC and ACC is trouble. If a new super conference is to be realized that can conceptually compete with the B1G and SEC, you have to grab the best schools left nationwide. And you forget about ND unless they are willing to come in.
24 teams, 3-4 divisions, nationwide, huge media markets. West-Oregon, Washington, Stanford, California, Arizona, Arizona St, Utah, BYU. Midwest-Baylor, Oklahoma St, Colorado, TCU, Kansas, Houston, Pitt, Louisville. East-Clemson, FSU, Miami, GT, NC, State, UVa, VT.
Relevant nationwide today in football includes Clemson, Oregon, Washington, Oklahoma St., Baylor. Relevant in not to distant past includes FSU, Miami, VT, TCU, Stanford. Solid programs include State, Pitt, Louisville, Houston, Utah, BYU.
TV markets: Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Phoenix, Mormon's nationwide, Dallas, Houston, Denver, Florida, Atlanta, Greenville, Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, Cincinnati, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Northern Virginia and DC.
How much would that media contract be valued at? Could it get close to the 100 billion the B1G and SEC are looking at? If it could get close, it could work. If not, it's just a waste of time.
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Re: What we're seeing ultimately is the battle between
Jul 7, 2022, 1:36 PM
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Those Mormons are are a loyal market.
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Re: What we're seeing ultimately is the battle between
Jul 8, 2022, 11:41 PM
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Re: What we're seeing ultimately is the battle between
Jul 9, 2022, 6:53 AM
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This is realistically the only “play” the ACC has right now, but I suspect they are not going to kick anyone out that is presently in the conference. They really need to go aggressively after the 10 best schools remaining out there and get to 24 schools. That group of 24 schools would certainly have enough influence that the conference would never be left out of the playoffs. They could also renegotiate their terrible media contract and get it within 75% of what the other 2 big conferences are getting per school. This conference would certainly be competitive with the B1G overall, and should have better TV markets and eyeballs watching across the nation. Tons of live content for their ACCN too. I’m not saying this is what is best for Clemson, but the conference has an obligation to look out for the best interest of all of its members.
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Re: Who in the ACC is most likely going to get left behind?
Jul 7, 2022, 9:35 AM
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It stinks for any school left behind. Too bad B1G got SEC greedy and took LA. Should’ve been 4 super conferences instead of 2 came from the 5 power conferences.
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Re: Who in the ACC is most likely going to get left behind?
Jul 7, 2022, 9:44 AM
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My daughter is married to a mutt alum and he swears that there was a "gentleman's agreement" in the SEC among Georgia, South Carolina, Florida and it seems like there was one more team that had an instate ACC rival opponent that he mentioned (I may be wrong about the 4th.. I try to tune him out. LOL) that they would not add those ACC teams. (GT, us, FSU and ?) Apparently A&M was never extended an invitation to be part of that "gentleman's agreement" not to add Texas since they are also instate rivals from a different conference as they were added 2 decades after the previous expansion. Idk. That's what he said. Could be total BS. Probably is total BS. Perhaps he meant Georgia, SC, Florida and the mystery 4th that I can't recall agreed to join forces to vote no and block the additions.
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Re: Who in the ACC is most likely going to get left behind?
Jul 7, 2022, 11:28 AM
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The teams you are forgetting are Louisville and Kentucky.
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Re: Who in the ACC is most likely going to get left behind?
Jul 7, 2022, 11:32 AM
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That's it. I knew he named 4 but couldn't remember the last one for the life of me.
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Re: Who in the ACC is most likely going to get left behind?
Jul 7, 2022, 4:31 PM
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I have heard this and believe it be true. But like all agreements, one can be persuaded with money.
A&M was against adding UT but when the official vote came in, all were in favor. Adding Texas and OU came with a huge payday for all.
Adding Clemson and FSU will not add the money OU and UT added.
However I could see UF agreeing to add FSU or Miami if SCu agrees to add Clemson etc.
Thus, I believe the SEC would be in favor adding a UNC/NCSt and/or UVA/VT. This would add a lot more money to their future contract.
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