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Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 9:42 AM
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In some cases it could be injury that detailed them, like in the case of Willy Korn. It could be legal/problem child issues or just a lack of development. For me 3 players come to mind that had all the physical tools but other problems.
1. Mike Bellamy: I don't know the details, but kid could sure run 2. Xavier Kelly: All the tools, but looked lost in plays 3. Work with me here, I don't recall his name. Guy was a Baseball player that came to Clemson as a RB, #40 I think. Dude was Beasting guys then fumbled agaisnt SCST blowing a shutout. Not sure his deal but he certainly showed promise. Ok, so if you got this far and like me are marking time until kickoff would love to hear some of your thoughts on guys that had promise but never quite did it.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 9:45 AM
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Roscoe Crosby was a disappointment. Was pumped when he committed.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 9:47 AM
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Arthur Bussie was an absolute beast! Would have been a legend here had Ford not been ousted.
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Folks close to the program have said Bussie was a truly
May 8, 2022, 4:11 PM
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Bad dude both on and off the field.
Fellow who was part of the strength staff back then related this to me.
Doubt Arthur would fit into our current culture.
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Re: Folks close to the program have said Bussie was a truly
May 8, 2022, 4:44 PM
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Who has all the “tools” and no potential? The Democratic Party.
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Rim shot!
May 8, 2022, 6:09 PM
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 9, 2022, 1:01 AM
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First name that popped into my head was RC. Super talented, couldnt focus on his future. Similar to the following.
M Bryant blew his opportunities to be a Pro-Bowler and many of millions richer if he could drop his crutch for 6-7mos a yr.
I think Kelly Bryant should have dropped the QB dream and become a WR. He was pretty good with the ball in his hands as a runner. Could have had some hitch plays, pitch back passes, wildcats but WR full-time. He should have made that transition while at Clemson while we were Natty level team to build his resume instead of playing for Missouri.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 9:49 AM
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Frank Ladson. Looked like our next big receiver in high school, but could not stay healthy.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 3:39 PM
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All the gifts! A lot of outside experts raved about him in camps. Kid couldn't focus and lost the ability to catch a ball.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 9:50 AM
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Was his name Kurt Fleming?
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 9:53 AM
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Not really sure if Harper reached his full potential. Not sure if that was on him or his coach, but he was highly rated out of high school.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 9:58 AM
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isaiah battle.
He could have developed into a machine on the oline. And his size carried him through. But he could have been so much more had he been a little more focused
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 10:04 AM
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I cannot remember the names of many on the OL but one could assume we may have had a lot of busts at that position.
Cannot remember his name but I believe there was a highly recruited left tackle in recent years that played like a statue. It may come to me in a bit.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 10:06 AM
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Don’t forget the big offensive lineman from Georgia only a few years . We were all excited when he committed to Clemson on tv but he never became a great player nor did he appear in the NFL.
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Bob Vila
May 8, 2022, 10:05 AM
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RIP.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 10:06 AM
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Chad Kelly. He had all the physical tools. Not so much between the ears.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 10:29 AM
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Agreed he was a head case. Another one I was excited about as I was Willy Korn.
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Korn was so overhyped, I honestly don't think he, or anyone
May 8, 2022, 1:43 PM
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else, could ever have lived up to it. It was the same kind of "Hometown Savior" vibe that Steve Fuller had when he signed with Clemson. Although, Fuller actually lived up to the advance billing, for the most part! Korn never really had a chance, because he could not overcome injuries.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 10:42 AM
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J. Lay. Not sure the situation, but I had really high hopes for him. Best wishes in his future endeavors.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 10:53 AM
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What position did he play?
Also not as strong at TE comparative to the last few seasons. No true slot receiver hurt. Need a few pieces on the offensive side. Could have been a small part of DJ’s struggles last year even though I know he would miss some wide open throws. The GA game though we missed a lot of back shoulder throws that were there in the past but the WR and QB were not on the same page.
Hopefully the OL can open some holes for Ship and Mafah and we can take the ball out of DJ’s hands as was the plan in the latter part of last season and worked out great.
Mafah is a stud and I believe he could show a lot given more carries.
Apologies I feel like I have hijacked this thread but all this came to mind with the whole unmet expectations.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 3:29 PM
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The guy your talking about at RB was Kurt Fleming. Really nice kid that I got to meet at one of our girls tennis matches. Dude told me he could run a 4.4 40. He sure was stout looking to be able to do that?
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 4:01 PM
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The guy your talking about at RB was Kurt Fleming. Really nice kid that I got to meet at one of our girls tennis matches. Dude told me he could run a 4.4 40. He sure was stout looking to be able to do that?
FWIW that could be true -- dude played baseball in the Braves farm system and I remember some folks talking about him making some noise in camp as a power back who could run. He was like 6 ft or 6'2 and 230-240lb-ish.
Watching him live (if my memory is accurate), idk if that straight line speed translated well to the football. He did seem to have a quick step in the limited action I saw but he never had an open field run to see if he had that kind of speed.
Definitely a player I wanted to see more of but he left like mid season with no real explanation provided to the media.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 4:03 PM
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Rendrick Taylor.......
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 10, 2022, 9:34 PM
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Rendrick Taylor.......
That’s exactly the guy that came to mind when read the title of this thread.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 4:04 PM
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In some cases it could be injury that detailed them, like in the case of Willy Korn. It could be legal/problem child issues or just a lack of development. For me 3 players come to mind that had all the physical tools but other problems.
1. Mike Bellamy: I don't know the details, but kid could sure run 2. Xavier Kelly: All the tools, but looked lost in plays 3. Work with me here, I don't recall his name. Guy was a Baseball player that came to Clemson as a RB, #40 I think. Dude was Beasting guys then fumbled agaisnt SCST blowing a shutout. Not sure his deal but he certainly showed promise. Ok, so if you got this far and like me are marking time until kickoff would love to hear some of your thoughts on guys that had promise but never quite did it.
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Kurt Fleming...
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Ronald Williams, RB in the early 90s.***
May 8, 2022, 4:18 PM
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Re: Ronald Williams, RB in the early 90s.***
May 10, 2022, 7:53 PM
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Ronald was on path to NFL before injury -- yes, he had tremendous potential!
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 5:22 PM
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I truly believe Martavis Bryant had incredible god given talent and so many opportunities, second, and third chances. It’s saddening to think about what could have been with him.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 5:27 PM
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Lateek Townsend
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 6:27 PM
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Me.
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Willie Simmons
May 8, 2022, 7:39 PM
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May 8, 2022, 8:12 PM
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The best who never was. RB at OU. The next Bo Jackson. Drives a truck the last I heard.
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May 8, 2022, 8:25 PM
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I remember how pumped I was when he signed. Then he hurt his back or neck in summer workouts and never saw the field.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 8:45 PM
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Chinedu Ohan!!!
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 8:54 PM
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Ohan did make the play on the punt that lead to the safety that beat the Bulldogs
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Billy Luckie
May 8, 2022, 9:09 PM
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Not sure what happened with him, apparently he was a head case, but looked like a prototypical pro quarterback
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 8, 2022, 9:10 PM
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I'm shocked no one has said, even I in jest, DJU
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The jury is still out on DJ bret, but if he doesn't have...
May 8, 2022, 9:36 PM
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...a big comeback season he would certainly hit the list.
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Not sure DJU quals as "having the tools"
May 8, 2022, 11:09 PM
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Yes he can throw the ball thru a battleship, but that's actually a liability if there's no touch. And he's not fleet of foot. So, the jury is out on him and will stay out until the end of the season.
DJU might win a Super Bowl, and, he might never make it off a practice squad. Just hard to figure him out.
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Parnell Burnside***
May 9, 2022, 12:34 PM
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Re: Parnell Burnside...yes, finally the correct answer after
May 10, 2022, 9:30 PM
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reading through the entire thread. 6-6, 270, ran a 4.3 40, and played QB, WR, TE, OL, DL & LB in high school, and was a 5-star at every position. It's really sad what happened to derail his career at CU.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 10, 2022, 10:17 PM
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Charlie Whitehurst comes to mind. Yes.o realize sitting behind Rivers didn't help. .Maybe he should have pursued a trade. Maybe he was.just fine right where he was. That's OK too. Just thought yhe guy deserved a shot
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Clipboard Jesus had the best dang job in the NFL and made millions.
May 10, 2022, 10:42 PM
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Dude made it.
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 11, 2022, 9:12 AM
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Milton Jennings?
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Jack the Ripper?
May 11, 2022, 9:15 AM
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Glad he was unleashed in the late 1800's, not in modern times!
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Re: Who had all the tools but never quite reached their potential?
May 13, 2022, 12:58 PM
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Antwan Wyatt WR got kicked off the team . He could make over the shoulder catching look easy.
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