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Topic: Who Better: Isaiah Simmons or Dorian O'daniel?
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Who Better: Isaiah Simmons or Dorian O'daniel?


Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 9:43 AM
 

Just out of curiosity. Both excellent players.

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 9:44 AM
 

Not trying to be an ### but it’s not even close.

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 9:48 AM
 

DOD did some good things for us. kind of cut the pattern for how we used simmons. DOD doesn't have the size or speed of simmons (few have that kind of combination). So, IMO, simmons has a much better upside as a pro. DOD was a very good college player for us, but simmons is a freak.

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 9:51 AM
 

That's what the board is for, to express our thoughts and opinions. Appreciate it.

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O Daniel was probably slightly better at tackling


Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 3:49 PM
 

Simmons was more versatile because of his incredible
coverage skills

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 9:48 AM
 

Simmons.

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 9:52 AM
 

Isaiah Simmons was the better player by a good bit.

I think Isaiah also benefited from having a deeper secondary around him which allowed him to do a lot more things on the field besides playing LB responsibilities in coverage.

This doesn't mean that DOD wasn't a really good player also.

The games that stood out most to me to show the versatility that DOD had were his ability to come up and play the run in his games vs GA Tech and then his last time playing Wake Forest where he locked down their stud slot WR Dorch for the entire game.

At that point nobody had even attempted to let a LB cover Dorch and Wake kept trying to go to him over and over thinking they had a mismatch, but there was nothing there to be had.

DOD basically created the position that Simmons mastered on Clemson's defense.

Prior to DOD, we made a lot of substitutions between LB and DB for different defensive sets.

I hope there is somebody on the roster who can fill that spot because it frees up Venables to be a lot more multiple without changing personnel.

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 10:12 AM
 

I was actually watching some highlights of DOD yesterday. He was super fast and he would lay the wood on people. If only he was Isaiah’s height & weight, he’d be an absolute monster.

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DOD was a good player, but he was like version 1.0

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 10:17 AM
 

of that hybrid LB/safety and Simmons was just improved in every way possible.

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At this time O'Daniel

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 10:19 AM
 

He is in the Super Bowl so I'm giving him the nod.

Once Simmons plays a few NFL downs I'll get back to you.

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Re: At this time O'Daniel

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 11:20 AM
 

Considering he's played primarily on special teams this year, I'm not sure that's the best reasoning as to why DOD is better.

He did have a decent year last year, but he's played 18 total snaps this season on defense which is like 1% of the total snaps, so it's not like the team has relied on him to get to the Super Bowl.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/ODanDo00.htm

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 11:33 AM
 

Good point.

During the playoffs I saw him on a least one snap so made the snap judgment that he was getting regular playing time.

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Re: At this time O'Daniel


Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 12:02 PM
 

He actually played 12 of his 18 total snaps against the Texans. May have been to match up with their TEs, but also may have been later in the game when they were up big. I noticed him once or twice in that game, but I was drinking in NOLA, so can't remember what part of the game it was.

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Re: Who Better: Isaiah Simmons or Dorian O'daniel?


Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 11:00 AM
 

DOD was a great Clemson Tiger but Simmons is a freak of nature. We've never had a defender like him in the history of the program.

As Tigers, it's very obvious what the answer is.

We'll see what Simmons does in the NFL. Hope he is drafted by a team I sort of like. Giants would be just fine.

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 11:24 AM
 

Glad I asked. Lots of interesting takes.

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 11:31 AM
 

Simmons

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 11:58 AM
 

who is better: Skakski or Boulware. .?.

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 3:44 PM
 

I think I give the nod to Skalski because he was stronger in coverage.

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Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 3:58 PM
 

Skalski is more athletic but Boulware played with a special kind of nasty. His "up to the whistle and sometimes a little after" antics got into opponents heads.

Intangibles matter.

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Re: Who Better: Isaiah Simmons or Dorian O'daniel?


Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 5:49 PM
 

I've watch the playoff games a good bit and I have been impressed with Skalski. I had underrated him. I think his going out was a big key in LSU dominating the 4th Quarter.

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Re: Who Better: Isaiah Simmons or Dorian O'daniel?


Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 5:45 PM
 

DOD is an excellent LB - watch him in the SB

IS is an excellent LB AND Safety. He is gonna kill the NFL if he gets a DC that will utilize his versatility wisely. I would love to see him go to the Texans. Their defense could really use him (& then some O-Line help for DW4)

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Re: Who Better: Isaiah Simmons or Dorian O'daniel?


Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 6:44 PM
 

We don't draft early enough and Bill O'Brien is an idiot. I can only dream.

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Re: Who Better: Isaiah Simmons or Dorian O'daniel?


Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 6:12 PM
 

not even close

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Re: Who Better: Isaiah Simmons or Dorian O'daniel?


Posted: Jan 29, 2020, 7:48 PM
 

Each player was asked to do two completely different things. Both were great at what they were tasked with. With that being said, if I could only pick one, I would pick Simmons.


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