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How our allies see us & Biden
Feb 25, 2022, 11:47 AM
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Interesting article from Jerusalem Post -
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If President Joe Biden’s speech on Wednesday evening wasn’t clear enough: Ukraine is on its own against the Russian bear. And if there’s anything Israel can learn from that, is that it also will find itself fighting alone should it ever find itself in a war against Iran.
But, with all due respect, Biden waved the Western white flag and lost American deterrence against Russia -as well as Iran and China- countries that only respect leaders who show true power and strength.
America’s deterrence, at least in the Middle East, was tremendously weakened following the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan earlier this year. America’s response to Russia’s invasion further diminished its deterrence, around the globe.
if needed, Israel’s military will act against Iran and prevent it from becoming a nuclear threshold state. Even if Washington doesn’t like it.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-698644
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Re: How our allies see us & Biden
Feb 25, 2022, 11:49 AM
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Like this:
P.s. the bisch can be Kamala or Pelosi, your choice.
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Which one is us?
Feb 25, 2022, 11:49 AM
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Could go either way....
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lol, Israel will never be alone. the neocons and the
Feb 25, 2022, 11:50 AM
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Semitic Democrats will ensure that!
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Re: lol, Israel will never be alone Because
Feb 26, 2022, 7:34 AM
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The libs will give Israel to Palestine!
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When did Israel denounce Putin's invasion...? Today...? As
Feb 25, 2022, 11:51 AM
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of yesterday, they hadn't.
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Re: When did Israel denounce Putin's invasion...? Today...? As
Feb 25, 2022, 12:47 PM
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You may want to google that again. They did
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Which "population" ? As to the Israeli statement, about time***
Feb 25, 2022, 1:31 PM
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Re: Which "population" ? As to the Israeli statement, about time***
Feb 25, 2022, 1:34 PM
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The SANE population. Thanks for being man enough to admit you were wrong and thier statement was issued shortly after the shells started falling.
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Are you ready to critique the video analysis yet, or do
Feb 25, 2022, 1:51 PM
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you admit that you're incapable of doing so...? "Oh, but I got a degree"
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Re: Roughly 9 hours after...
Feb 25, 2022, 1:52 PM
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Ok, your original statement was "as of yesterday, they hadn't. " My proof indicated you were wrong, they did shortly before 6AM yesterday morning. Next point?
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Okay. I was wrong about the time, but not the sentiment.
Feb 25, 2022, 1:57 PM
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I'm much more interested in your response to the above post.
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Re: Okay. I was wrong about the time, but not the sentiment.
Feb 25, 2022, 2:03 PM
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I've told ya a hundred times that I won't click on 911 Truther clickbait. Don't want to support it in ANY way.
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It's on Youtube. Is it you or your degree that's inadequate?
Feb 25, 2022, 2:15 PM
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You're so absolutely sure about something you won't even view... Is that how you handle all your engineering?
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Re: It's on Youtube. Is it you or your degree that's inadequate?
Feb 25, 2022, 2:20 PM
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It must be me cause I KNOW my Clemson degree is adequate. Doesn't youtube pay the folks who post crap there?
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Yea, they might make a penny... but 9/11 caused a major
Feb 25, 2022, 2:27 PM
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part of our $31T debt. That doesn't concern you, right...?
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Re: Yea, they might make a penny... but 9/11 caused a major
Feb 25, 2022, 2:30 PM
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Well then, I won't give them the satisfaction of that penny
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Nice excuse... Thanks for admitting you're incapable. YOU
Feb 25, 2022, 2:37 PM
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know it and I know it.
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Where did you get 6AM? The article came out @9AM...
Feb 25, 2022, 6:31 PM
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The invasion began @5 Wed. That's 28 hours before the article was released, not 9... Next point? Facts.
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Re: Where did you get 6AM? The article came out @9AM...
Feb 26, 2022, 6:34 AM
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Dude, please! I'm on EST, not UKR time or Israel time. My memory is that the TV started with the invasion stuff at about 9 to 10PM EST. When I woke up Thursday morning and tuned into Morning Joe. At about 10 minutes into the show he started railing on "where is the condemnation statement from Israel? .... etc". Then you could see him listening to the producer in his headset and then he said "oh, I'm sorry, it appears Israel released a statement about 15 minutes ago" and then he read it to the audience. So, just before 6AM EST. Hence, the 9 or so hours I stated. There, does this satisfy your conspiracy minded self? The bigger question is why is this timing so important to you?
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A full day after..***
Mar 3, 2022, 1:18 PM
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Re: A full day after..***
Mar 3, 2022, 1:48 PM
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JFC, 9pm to 6amEST = 9 hours. AGAIN, WHY IS THIS SOOOOO IMPORTANT TO YOU?????
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Oh, FFS Israel…
Feb 25, 2022, 1:31 PM
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I would ask them (and some of you guys) just what they expect the US to actually do. We clearly do not need to send Americans into harms way at this point and if our allies will stand firm, this will eventually be the death knell for Putin/Russia. I don’t even think China is all that crazy about what is going on.
But response aside, perhaps Israel does need to tread a little more softly with its neighbors and not assume they can count on the US to get mired in another useless/endless war in the ME just because they can’t get along and handle their own ####.
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The point is that they
Feb 25, 2022, 1:55 PM
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don't see us as a reliable ally, whether the need is boots on the ground or anything else. They do not see us as reliable, and I'd have to agree that that's the precedent being set so far by this administration.
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Never said it was just this administration, but
Feb 25, 2022, 2:04 PM
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the Biden administration is the one in power now, so it's the only one that's really relevant at the moment. We could go back to Obama and W and Clinton, etc, without too much trouble, but it's all largely irrelevant.
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Re: Never said it was just this administration, but
Feb 25, 2022, 2:18 PM
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I'd say it's very relevant. Our "allies" now know that our word means nothing and it goes across several admins. Next up, if we don't keep our word to a NATO ally and help defend them(even if it's a small one) if Putin advances on them, then we're ######. But, we really are anyway for numerous reasons.
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The result of... see above.***
Feb 25, 2022, 2:28 PM
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Nooooo...
Feb 25, 2022, 2:48 PM
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One idiot doesn't see us as a reliable ally because said idiot doesn't realize we don't have an alliance with Ukraine.
Israel is actually our ally. The author really doesn't know what's going on.
Pretty easy for someone in another country to demand we dive headfirst into World War III to satisfy what he or she wants.
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Well, that's pretty dumb...
Feb 25, 2022, 2:45 PM
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To equate our relationship with Israel's and their situation with Iran to this one.
"OMG, United States, why are you not jumping us all into World War III already?!"
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It would be amazing if we left Israel on its own
Feb 25, 2022, 2:54 PM
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but that will never happen.
We should, but we won't.
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