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No one will respond to this.. But preseason
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No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:31 PM

1. I said KB couldn't improve his passing to keep his job... Proven.
2. I said TL would surpass KB because of that... Again proven.
3. I said BC would be the biggest test we face in the regular season... Knowing what I paid attention to of the trench STATS... Yeah you all hated me for the stats...PROVEN.


For those that ignored me.... Sucks for you. For the rest of you, I quit being quiet. I start showing the stats again...GO TIGERS. And Gee Ville (pronounced Guh-ee vull at his level of smartness) #######...armsbryant...suck my .....tail. who was right? Go Tigers!! See you all in my hometown.. Charlotte.

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Triggered?


Nov 10, 2018, 11:33 PM

Lighten up and enjoy the ride.

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Re: Triggered?


Nov 10, 2018, 11:40 PM

Don't need to lighten up. I got blasted by these boards... Eat Crow.

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Re: Triggered?


Nov 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

Not sure you went out on much of a limb with your predictions there but hey a self-pat on the back must be what you’re needing. Carry on

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I have no crow to eat


Nov 12, 2018, 3:11 PM [ in reply to Re: Triggered? ]

I was critical of Kelly B LAST season. I didn't think he was the best QB on the roster then. I thought we needed to work harder to get HJ ready to play. If you want to go back and look at my post history you can confirm that.

For you to act like you were the only person here he considered Trevor Lawrence the superior QB is silly. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you, then perhaps this forum isn't for you. I don't give a carp if people agree with me or not, or if they "TD" me or not. Who cares? I've been on this site since 1995. I was here LONG before all that started and I've gotten into plenty of disagreements with people on various topics. It's part of substantive discussion - people disagree sometimes. Get over it.

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Re: Triggered?


Nov 10, 2018, 11:40 PM [ in reply to Triggered? ]

Don't need to lighten up. I got blasted by these boards... Eat Crow.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:34 PM

I will reply. We out gained BC 424 to 113. Syracuse was a ch bigger test.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:42 PM

Not defensively. They were the team that would put young Trevor in check that I expected would have the job, and check my history, by game 5.eat crow if you guys really want me to analyze the stats which I've done against several teams that invade our boards do yourself a favor and stop treating me like I don't know what I'm talkin about

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Plus only 99% of us said TL would take over the QB spot***


Nov 10, 2018, 11:45 PM



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Re: Plus only 99% of us said TL would take over the QB spot***


Nov 10, 2018, 11:46 PM

Absolute bull,would you like me to actually start pulling the crap up Neal? You watched it just like I did... It'll be interested to see where you stood. keep in mind, I had to actually post pictures of my ring during that fight. And I called out the two I'd rather hear from

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Yeah that’s certainly not true


Nov 12, 2018, 3:24 PM [ in reply to Plus only 99% of us said TL would take over the QB spot*** ]

A majority were all aboard the KB train and to think otherwise was to be disloyal to the team.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 11, 2018, 12:01 AM [ in reply to Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason ]

#### you need to get laid, are you even serious right now? Weird

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 14, 2018, 11:14 AM [ in reply to Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason ]

How did BC put Trevor in check? He threw for 295 yards, had a passing TD, and a rushing TD. If not for a poor throw to Rodgers he would have had 2 passing TDs and nearly 350 yards. BC had a few redzone stands, but our total offensive stats between Syracuse and BC are pretty similar, but Syracuse put up a much better offensive challenge. Also TL averaged 6.2 YPA against Syracuse with a 25.9 QBR and 7.4 YPA with a 69.4 QB rating against BC.

Syracuse gave up 469 total yards and BC gave up 424 total yards. So I guess BC is 45 yards better than Syracuse. Congrats on calling that out, you nailed it.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:35 PM

BC was a closer game than A&M and Syracuse? You also want credit for predicting that Lawrence would eventually become the starter when like 90% of people thought that?

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

We aren't talking score buddy would you like to quit naming games that Kelly Bryant had something to do with?

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:47 PM

You mean like Syracuse?

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:49 PM

I mean in the games at the guy who left the team had anything to do with. how about you start from the games that Trevor took him over .. Which I suspect would be by game 5... It was actually game 4


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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:50 PM

Syracuse...

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:45 PM [ in reply to Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason ]

Wait a minute so you telling me you dumb drunk ##### would prefer to have Kelly Bryant right now than Trevor Lawrence? Please by all means I'd love to see you guys try to prove me wrong....after Clemson just had the most dominating several series Boston College kept us in check and you guys don't have a brains to notice it

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courtesy flush


Nov 10, 2018, 11:51 PM

Crump®

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 14, 2018, 11:04 AM [ in reply to Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason ]

How did BC hold us in check? I can't even understand half of what you are rambling about. They made a few redzone stands, but we had over 100 yards rushing and almost 300 yards passing. If not for a poor pass to Rogers, TL would have had another TD and 50 yards of passing yards.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:36 PM

Actually Syracuse was our toughest game. Had to come from behind to win. Myth Busted!

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You want a gold star?


Nov 10, 2018, 11:36 PM

This ain't grade school... You need more beer me thinks

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:39 PM

A lot of people argued with you but I was not one of them. I'm glad we kept KB around for the first few games but I knew he was killing us on offense.

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well here's a big cookie for YOU


Nov 10, 2018, 11:41 PM



don't choke on it

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“poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”


You Win a Cookie...Internet Champ***


Nov 10, 2018, 11:42 PM



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Cuse and A&M have been much bigger tests BC was easy


Nov 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

they posed no threat what-so-ever

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 10, 2018, 11:44 PM

Syracuse and Texas A&M were much tougher games. I highly doubt anyone remembers your post.
Enjoy the win...

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BC has been our 3rd toughest game, KB did improve


Nov 10, 2018, 11:47 PM

his passing and was still going to play, TL surpassed KB because KB left. None of your statements are very accurate.

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Re: BC has been our 3rd toughest game, KB did improve


Nov 12, 2018, 3:47 PM

Syracuse...3 TD's scored
Texas A&M...4 TD's scored
BC...2 TD's scored (rest by FG's and a punt return TD, Amari's first of the whole season).


That's how I am looking at it. Looks to me like we were able to score better against what you are considering the 1st and 2nd best. You are looking at it by what the defense did or didn't do in each, I am looking at it by what the offense did (or didn't do). Offensively (taking away special teams scores), Clemson's worst game was BC between the 3.

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Wait a minute....


Nov 14, 2018, 11:42 AM

Are you seriously trying to argue that a game we won by 20 points while not giving up a single TD on defense was a bigger test than:

- A game where we had to hold on for dear life at the end by stopping a potential game tying extra point in front of 100,000 rowdy fans

And

- A game where we had to fight back from behind in the 4th quarter with our 3rd string QB

???

And your main argument is centered on the fact that we scored less touchdowns....not the actual score difference?

Lol, wow. Ok

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Re: Lol ok Walt***


Nov 10, 2018, 11:47 PM



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Yeah was thinking the exact same thing


Nov 12, 2018, 4:25 PM

this has Walt Deptula written all over it...

guy is obviously closet ####, feels insecure from that and fights back with know-it-all routine
guy was obviously bullied as a child and still as an adult, again feels slighted
guy obviously has some drug/steroid issues, again, slighted and turned to relief

Come on out Walt..you can't hide..we know it's you!

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You need to change your tampon.***


Nov 10, 2018, 11:48 PM



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you mad bruh?


Nov 10, 2018, 11:48 PM

We won! Celebrate the win. Don’t take it personal when the board blows you up, we all get called Coot sooner or later...lol

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What happened???


Nov 10, 2018, 11:49 PM

Did F.G.F.....

Not let you login or something?

??

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LOL! Never heard of you***


Nov 10, 2018, 11:50 PM



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That's the wrong way to prove you're right. Do this instead


Nov 10, 2018, 11:51 PM

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Itll-be-tight-early-24420548#24420548

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Re: That's the wrong way to prove you're right. Do this instead


Nov 11, 2018, 12:26 AM

Lol, classic!!!

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Syracuse was MUCH MORE competitive, they actually scored


Nov 10, 2018, 11:52 PM

and had lead late in 4th quarter. BC scores no offensive points and honestly had no chance after halftime. TL being starter is no surprise to anyone following Clemson, he is just too talented.

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yep that was a toughie


Nov 10, 2018, 11:56 PM

They finally made it to 100 yards

Kent state got 100 yards.

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So what do you want? A medal? A pat on the butt?


Nov 10, 2018, 11:59 PM
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I bet you predicted the sun will rise tomorrow and that water is wet, too.

Lighten up, Francis.

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It's pronounced "L Heff A" and it means "The Boss".


Point 1 and 2 were givens to any independently thinking


Nov 11, 2018, 12:05 AM

Tiger fan. However, on this board, where collective groupthink and PC hand wringing occurs daily, any voice who was not all in with KB playing was questioned. So be it. Laugh at it. Nothing to win in being hard. The beauty is not in just being right (which you were on this issue) but in having the independence to speak your mind and go against all those that told the emperor he had grand clothes.

On point 3, you were wrong, SYR and Tx A&M played us much tougher than BC who was one ref's call and several overshot TL passes away from losing by 40 points. But that's OK. You were right on 1 & 2.

So anyway, who loves some Tigers? We all do. +1 and chill brother …

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 11, 2018, 12:05 AM

I'll give you a cookie. Congrats boi.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 11, 2018, 12:19 AM

No one will respond to this. - DISPROVEN.
You need to chill, maybe try some recreational pharma. - PROVEN.

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Thanks, Walt. Do you still think Paul Johnson will


Nov 11, 2018, 12:21 AM

keep his job?

I’ll hang up and listen.

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"When I was young, I was sure of many things; now there are only two things of which I am sure: one is, that I am a miserable sinner; and the other, that Christ is an all-sufficient Saviour. He is well-taught who learns these two lessons." -John Newton


Walt???


Nov 11, 2018, 12:50 AM

Is that you? Why are you so mad? Georgia Tech won today!

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This is the kind of post that leads to another post


Nov 11, 2018, 12:53 AM

in the next morning apologizing for the drunk post.

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That's the best case scenario at this point.***


Nov 12, 2018, 3:25 PM



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Almost everybody said that. But everybody said that you are a tool.


Nov 11, 2018, 1:41 AM

Which is more obvious now than ever.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 12, 2018, 3:19 PM

TM 1978,

Nobody disagreed with your stats. Among those who replied originally I believe what led to the negative responses was your obvious attitude. Try a little less “pay attention to me” and just make reasonable comments and you might find a better response among posters.

Go Tigers ??!!

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 12, 2018, 3:39 PM

Back at that time, I was making rational posts...mainly just throwing out stats. Don't know why you guys went 5 pages worth back from 2 days ago to bring this back up though. I said what I wanted to....and if you guys think we "sailed" to a win offensively with 13 of 27 points being FG's or a special teams play, then that's on you. The offense (without ST) in reality scored more TD's on Syracuse (3 TD's) and Texas A&M (4 TD's) than it did on BC (2 TD's)...but obviously no one will admit that, so I stopped bothering posting about it. Defensively the game was different, but BC did present the toughest defense faced all season.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

So you’ve gone from “BC would be the biggest test we face in the regular season” to “I meant defensively” to the only stat that matters is offensive TDs allowed. Syracuse’s pass defense was better than BC and BCs rush defense was better than Syracuse.

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I love irony. You did this to get positive attention.


Nov 12, 2018, 3:21 PM





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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 12, 2018, 3:24 PM

Want a cookie?

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lol..sweet..hey tigrrman


Nov 12, 2018, 3:25 PM

https://youtu.be/kMsrE-9CLFg

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: lol..sweet..hey tigrrman


Nov 12, 2018, 3:30 PM

Thanks for offering, but I don't swing your way. I hear armsb would like one from you though.

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how do know? you've never seen me in my buffalo briefs***


Nov 12, 2018, 3:33 PM



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Mad bro?


Nov 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

You sound mad.

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Re: Mad bro?


Nov 12, 2018, 4:00 PM

lol...Nah, just showing some that acted like stats don't help tell a story (like it did in the eventual demise of KB as the starter), that again, it did.

Only 2 offensive TD's vs the highest defensive efficiency team we have played all season (BC #20 in Defensive Eff), vs 3 TD's with a back up vs Syracuse (#21 Def Eff), vs 4 TD's vs Texas A&M (#39 Def Eff). The stats seemed to keep showing the offense would struggle more against BC than it did vs Syracuse and Texas A&M...and it did, whether or not some on here want to admit it.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings/_/sort/defEfficiency/tab/efficiency

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"stop treating me like I don't know what I'm talkin about"


Nov 12, 2018, 4:10 PM

~Guy that doesn't know what he's talking about

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*tries to make fun of the guy who shows proof


Nov 12, 2018, 4:19 PM

~ guy who didn't read the post sitting right above him to see the backup of the statement vs the stats before he posted. Obviously I know what I'm talking about if the offensive production matches the rankings of defensive efficiency faced.

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My only regret is not finding this post sooner.


Nov 12, 2018, 4:29 PM

This is a fantastic meltdown!

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 12, 2018, 4:11 PM

You do know that 98.9% of Tigernet said the exact same thing you’re tooting your own horn about right after the spring game right?

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 12, 2018, 4:16 PM

That's incorrect. 98% of Tigernet said "trust the coaches choice...if they picked KB, then KB is the better QB" "He was 12-2 as a starter and brought us to the playoffs, don't question the coaches"...and called the select few that spoke to his inefficiencies "coots", haters, and dumb armchair coaches. And if you talked stats in any way, you were told stats don't matter.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 12, 2018, 4:27 PM

actually, 98% of Tigernet didn't say a thing about it because they aren't insecure children.

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LOL you along with half+ of the clemson fanbase


Nov 12, 2018, 4:29 PM

those conclusions were too obvious for only YOU to get credit for.

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2/3 is pretty good


Nov 12, 2018, 4:32 PM

BC hasn't been our biggest test.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 12, 2018, 4:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wdVzv72gqU

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 12, 2018, 4:38 PM

That was like predicting the sun will come up in the morning. Pretty obvious stuff, but hats off to ya.

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Re: No one will respond to this.. But preseason


Nov 12, 2018, 4:49 PM

I, and others, were pushing even last year to play HJ more. This year I was strongly in favor of TL taking over early, but I was happy the way the coaches gradually moved TL into the starting role. He shared time early. KB leaving was a surprise, but it appears to be for the best.

I will take up for the OP in that it gets old when we suggest changes and are accused of being disloyal, etc. This is a dang sports message board after all. The same with every time someone looks past the current game, he-she is met with derision of looking past the next game. Sure coaches have to stay grounded to the current week in some respects, but we all can speculate on season.

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Maybe you got blasted by the 2 or 3 people on this board


Nov 12, 2018, 4:43 PM

that didn't know TL was going to take over at QB at some point in the season. Anyone who watched the Spring Game knew that.
But I don't know how you are so certain that BC was our biggest test. I think A&M and Syracuse were closer games.

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The Dude abides


Lol


Nov 12, 2018, 5:02 PM

You mad!

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I guess we all had our own predictions


Nov 12, 2018, 5:12 PM

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/QB-prediction-for-this-season-23912489

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but on my tm78 was right


Nov 14, 2018, 11:21 AM

the coaches didn't decide what was best for the team. .
he did..

Clemson doesnt defer to the 2nd half, tm78 tells the other team they have to play offense 1st.

tm78 told Howard to do something with his dang rock, or he'd be fired.

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All those great early preditictions...


Nov 14, 2018, 11:32 AM

and then you go and predict no one would respond and you are back on a losing streak...

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